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CAAC check
Hello,
Can anyone say something about the CAAC check ?
Is it done with a CSA copilot as a partner or with another candidate ?
The manuvers are the same from the initial sim check ?
Any tips ?
Thank you !
Can anyone say something about the CAAC check ?
Is it done with a CSA copilot as a partner or with another candidate ?
The manuvers are the same from the initial sim check ?
Any tips ?
Thank you !
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Update:
The 'RSP closing' curse strikes again 😩😩
Apparently STN RSP has now been closed on the 777. Some issue with the Chinese pilots visas flying to the UK so they have decided to only change cargo in STN but night stop the crew in FRA instead.
So boom just like that the 4 guys who were flying out of STN are now moved to AMS RSP. Very frustrating for them to say the least.
As has been mentioned before, be very careful to take this job solely for a particular RSP. That is the 3rd(or maybe 4th actually) RSP that has been closed in the last year. CSA's reputation of keeping RSP's open is falling by the wayside.
Cheers all,
85
The 'RSP closing' curse strikes again 😩😩
Apparently STN RSP has now been closed on the 777. Some issue with the Chinese pilots visas flying to the UK so they have decided to only change cargo in STN but night stop the crew in FRA instead.
So boom just like that the 4 guys who were flying out of STN are now moved to AMS RSP. Very frustrating for them to say the least.
As has been mentioned before, be very careful to take this job solely for a particular RSP. That is the 3rd(or maybe 4th actually) RSP that has been closed in the last year. CSA's reputation of keeping RSP's open is falling by the wayside.
Cheers all,
85
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Just out of sheer curiosity, why isn't the YVR 787 RSP working out/happening? I would assume (just based on observations from the forum) that there are enough guys to make it work?
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CSA
Hello aviators i am new here
I am interested in news from CSA specially for CAPT A330. I see those are some "old" informations...Any one in company could make an update about how things are going for a Expat ? All you think it will be important good and less good info but real one. Like relations with company, rosters CMT, RSP...
Cruise CAPT, salary, CMT in Europe, assurances, etc
Thks will be vey helpfull
I am interested in news from CSA specially for CAPT A330. I see those are some "old" informations...Any one in company could make an update about how things are going for a Expat ? All you think it will be important good and less good info but real one. Like relations with company, rosters CMT, RSP...
Cruise CAPT, salary, CMT in Europe, assurances, etc
Thks will be vey helpfull
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Hi CharlyMike,
I received news the RSP bases AMS and CDG are already full at this moment. I hope the CMT option is still valid and I would also like to know the details about this type of rostering. If will have some more news about it during February, but if anyone can inform me about it I would be thankful.
I received news the RSP bases AMS and CDG are already full at this moment. I hope the CMT option is still valid and I would also like to know the details about this type of rostering. If will have some more news about it during February, but if anyone can inform me about it I would be thankful.
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For those guys looking at this contract with RSP in mind please disregard the absolute rubbish that the contract agencies continue to advertise.
As far as the current situation goes, even if you started the application process today, by the time you actually joined the company you will be a long way off. All Australian bases are full and oversubscribed, I doubt you would even get an Australian base in your first contract, maybe not even second. There is a 10 deep queue for each base with not a lot of movement, and no real look at base expansion at present.
LHR is full with a waiting list, as is AKL. The European 777 bases chop and change a fair bit, I'd be wary of expecting any sort of settled position there.
Currently 50-60 guys coming through the training system and taking another 7 guys each month, a lot of which taking any leftover RSP's and a lot going onto the aforementioned queues.
Just a heads up, as some of the agencies agencies continue to spread rubbish. Commuting contract is the only thing you can be assured of at present, and if you're commuting then HNA's contract is a a good 20% up on CSN.
As far as the current situation goes, even if you started the application process today, by the time you actually joined the company you will be a long way off. All Australian bases are full and oversubscribed, I doubt you would even get an Australian base in your first contract, maybe not even second. There is a 10 deep queue for each base with not a lot of movement, and no real look at base expansion at present.
LHR is full with a waiting list, as is AKL. The European 777 bases chop and change a fair bit, I'd be wary of expecting any sort of settled position there.
Currently 50-60 guys coming through the training system and taking another 7 guys each month, a lot of which taking any leftover RSP's and a lot going onto the aforementioned queues.
Just a heads up, as some of the agencies agencies continue to spread rubbish. Commuting contract is the only thing you can be assured of at present, and if you're commuting then HNA's contract is a a good 20% up on CSN.
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How are things at the 78 fleet these days? It was posted a while back that the best qol fleetwise was in the order of 330, 777, 787......., is it still the case? Is the trend improving or not?
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anyone opted for the residental scheme at CSA? How's the life there? Intl schools for kids, etc... Do you think it's a good option?
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RSP's
Was in Zhuhai recently and met a big group of candidates there for screening.
Had a chat with a lot of them and was amazed how many said 'I am here for x RSP'.
As has been mentioned before on this thread, there are no spaces in any RSP's and most of them already have a waiting list.
Be very careful what some of the agents tell you. Quite frankly many of them are crooks and will tell you whatever you want to hear in order to get you to sign the contract. Then they get their money.....
Just a word of warning.
Cheers,
85
Had a chat with a lot of them and was amazed how many said 'I am here for x RSP'.
As has been mentioned before on this thread, there are no spaces in any RSP's and most of them already have a waiting list.
Be very careful what some of the agents tell you. Quite frankly many of them are crooks and will tell you whatever you want to hear in order to get you to sign the contract. Then they get their money.....
Just a word of warning.
Cheers,
85
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Totally agree with mach85, the RSP's are a pulling card only. In fact, the AKL RSP is closing again (for the third time now) in June. perhaps permanently this time...
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Guys and girls. Be aware. There is no base here other than 20-10 Guangzhou for new joiners. End of story. Anything else your agent has said is either plainly false or loose speculation.
It's a great job, good people to work for and fun. But you are 20-10 gz based and if you are living in Europe after travelling that's 23-7 in reality. Don't come here expecting anything else as you will be miserable. I wish the agents would stop misinforning all of you.
It's a great job, good people to work for and fun. But you are 20-10 gz based and if you are living in Europe after travelling that's 23-7 in reality. Don't come here expecting anything else as you will be miserable. I wish the agents would stop misinforning all of you.
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I just spat my coffee out laughing. Thanks for that 👍😄 So so true.
This job is certainly not 'fun'. Everything but actually........
You certainly dont take this job for the 'fun' thats for sure.
Think long and hard why exactly you are coming before making the move.
If you have certain things in mind then it can work well for you but dont come here for the love of fun flying coz then you will be bitterly disappointed.
Cheers,
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Guys and girls. Be aware. There is no base here other than 20-10 Guangzhou for new joiners. End of story. Anything else your agent has said is either plainly false or loose speculation.
It's a great job, good people to work for and fun. But you are 20-10 gz based and if you are living in Europe after travelling that's 23-7 in reality. Don't come here expecting anything else as you will be miserable. I wish the agents would stop misinforning all of you.
It's a great job, good people to work for and fun. But you are 20-10 gz based and if you are living in Europe after travelling that's 23-7 in reality. Don't come here expecting anything else as you will be miserable. I wish the agents would stop misinforning all of you.
What an absolute crock of ****.
I wonder which agency posted that.....
Its grindingly depressing. Brutal medicals, being screamed at by maniacs in the simulator, which recently caused one senior and respected captain to resign, no leave confirmed until a few weeks before, constant harassment by management over the smallest things, punishment culture.....f*ck...the list goes on and on....
FUN???? ......perhaps if you had just escaped from Pyongyang.....but not for any sane person.....
Last month, two guys were forced to be grounded because they had a "lightening strike". Even though they didn't fly through one cloud on the route, the engineers found a tiny hole on the nose, so pinned the strike on them.
The managers admitted that they hadn't done it, but someone had to be seen to be punished, so they got 15 days ground school - which involved staring at the walls doing nothing, without pay, as a punishment for a "crime" they did not commit. The sentence was later reduced to 10 days for good behaviour!
FUNNNNNNN