737 excessive rotation speed - a hard act to follow
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737 excessive rotation speed - a hard act to follow
Recently, an incident came to light involving an Indonesian registered Boeing 737 that would astonish Pprune readers used to hairy events common to that part of the aviation world. Edited for brevity. The take off run started on a 10,000 ft length runway.
The crew were apparently unaware of a problem with the captain's ASI until the 80 knot call by the first officer who was PM. The captain elected to keep going. The F/O called V1 and VR from his own ASI which was working normally. The captain continued the take off roll despite his own ASI giving a significant erroneous reading.
Approaching the end of the 10,000 ft runway the captain's ASI read 80 knots and the captain was forced to rotate to avoid an over-run. The aircraft then flew normally. Investigation revealed the actual ground speed at rotation was 298 knots, exceeding the maximum tyre speed limitation by close to 100 knots. A hard act to follow.
The crew were apparently unaware of a problem with the captain's ASI until the 80 knot call by the first officer who was PM. The captain elected to keep going. The F/O called V1 and VR from his own ASI which was working normally. The captain continued the take off roll despite his own ASI giving a significant erroneous reading.
Approaching the end of the 10,000 ft runway the captain's ASI read 80 knots and the captain was forced to rotate to avoid an over-run. The aircraft then flew normally. Investigation revealed the actual ground speed at rotation was 298 knots, exceeding the maximum tyre speed limitation by close to 100 knots. A hard act to follow.
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298 Knots!!!! Must be a world record for a 737 take off.
I imagine that the aircraft would have required an extensive inspection of both landing gear assemblies (if the incident was indeed reported at the end of the flight!!). Did they return to base or continue on to original destination?
Are there any other dangers associated with exceeding maximum tyre speed other than burst tyres & landing gear issues?
I imagine that the aircraft would have required an extensive inspection of both landing gear assemblies (if the incident was indeed reported at the end of the flight!!). Did they return to base or continue on to original destination?
Are there any other dangers associated with exceeding maximum tyre speed other than burst tyres & landing gear issues?
A reflection on CRM in that particular environment that the FO didn't seem to take over and complete the take off themself.
I'd believe anything after some clown in SE Asia tried to get a 737 to land at a ridiculous speed ( may have been 200kts) about half way down the runway a few years back. The f/o was squawking a bit but didn't actually intervene. This seems mild by comparison.
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737 excessive rotation speed - a hard act to follow
At what speed will the thing finally give in and start flying anyway?!! Short of having the stick pushed forward!
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Originally Posted by Quantas_A380
No warnings on the 737 for exceeding max tyre speed?
Or disabled because of ASI disagree?
Or disabled because of ASI disagree?
At what speed will the thing finally give in and start flying anyway?!! Short of having the stick pushed forward!
Frankly, the whole thing sounds apochryphal. But if any can provide a link to the investigation report of what would surely have been classified as a serious incident, I'll stand corrected.
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It is probably the World land speed record for a tricycle............
It certainly breaks Gary and George's record in the T5 Lighting at Coltishall all those years back.
It certainly breaks Gary and George's record in the T5 Lighting at Coltishall all those years back.
And nobody is suggesting, that the human sensors in the cockpit should have noticed that those big markers on the side of the runway were passing along quite rapidly on this takeoff?