Long Live MAS. MAS will survive this way?
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Jentayu laments Khazanah cancelling meeting to discuss MAS takeover - The Malaysian Insider
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E.B.
Jentayu laments Khazanah cancelling meeting to discuss MAS takeover - The Malaysian Insider
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Pilots too not save
Heard that 100+pilots will go along with the 6000 staffs. Probably the near retiree groups. Rumours that 3 X A380 exiting the system. Donno how true.
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Meanwhile, more on the daring plan unfolding back at the farm.
Jentayu Danaraksa outlines its proposal for Malaysia Airlines - ch-aviation.com
Brave or ignorant ?
And, you could wait for it, The Slap on the Wrist. http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/cat...basic-decorum/
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Jentayu Danaraksa outlines its proposal for Malaysia Airlines - ch-aviation.com
Brave or ignorant ?
And, you could wait for it, The Slap on the Wrist. http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/cat...basic-decorum/
Cheers
E.B.
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Dear Charsiew Pau,
As your name suggests you are here to be confrontational. Perhaps you should check yourself for dyslexia or perhaps haemorrhoids!
If you want to be myopic drilling down to Huat Lye to stress your point to the Malays. Nobody is disputing that. But to forget how the airline began is also denial of the true history of the airline and it's beginnings. Which is something a bitter twisted little man as your goodself would no doubly be inclined to do.
I certainly wouldn't like to ever share a cockpit with an autocratic self propelled hateful, racially motivated traducer as you.
Furthermore the way you portray yourself here is on par with the radicals that want to take the world back to the 700th century. And the very ones you allude to be the dysfunctional element.
Wake up and smell the roses before you have an aneurysm.
Wooblah.
P.S You may have the last say on this as I really don't mind as I realise that you are fuelled and thrive on one-upmanship.
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Dear Charsiew Pau,
As your name suggests you are here to be confrontational. Perhaps you should check yourself for dyslexia or perhaps haemorrhoids!
If you want to be myopic drilling down to Huat Lye to stress your point to the Malays. Nobody is disputing that. But to forget how the airline began is also denial of the true history of the airline and it's beginnings. Which is something a bitter twisted little man as your goodself would no doubly be inclined to do.
I certainly wouldn't like to ever share a cockpit with an autocratic self propelled hateful, racially motivated traducer as you.
Furthermore the way you portray yourself here is on par with the radicals that want to take the world back to the 700th century. And the very ones you allude to be the dysfunctional element.
Wake up and smell the roses before you have an aneurysm.
Wooblah.
P.S You may have the last say on this as I really don't mind as I realise that you are fuelled and thrive on one-upmanship.
Oh my, what an inciendary hissy fit!
I remember flying as a pax when the Malaysian flag carrier flew into HNL enroute to LAX in the early 90s. I boarded in TPE and I was invited to the flight deck for the landing. They had 2 gregarious pilots who called their flight the " 2 ton " operation as both the Captain and F/O had the same surname " Tan ". They joked about getting " hula " tan in the sun and we had their gorgeous upper deck stewardess mimicking a hula dancer.
It was an interrupted approach onto RW08L as an F15 became disabled on the runway; they had to break off to join visual left base for RW04R. It was a tight maneuver. The F/O was PF and as it was a left hand circuit, he kept bugging the captain to give him " visual radar vectors "...it was amazing and interesting how the 2 ton operation operated. Anyway, against all odds, they successfully completed that tight circuit spot on and the F/O pulled off a greaser onto the shorter runway!
Ahh, those wonderful pre 911 days when we got to enjoy eye opening experiences on the jump seat. The Malaysian inflight service was second to none in those days. True that I enjoyed better booze on SQ but Malaysian had that fine and natural not too overly sophisticated touch which was that much enjoyable on the medium to long haul flights.
I may be wrong but I think they grew too fast with little time for consolidation. Would to see them bounce back and ply the Pacific routes again!
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Spot on! Whilst SQ cabin service was very professional, the genuine warmth of the MH crew are what makes the miles go by easier.
Morale must be at an all-time low presently. Hope they can rise again.
Spot on! Whilst SQ cabin service was very professional, the genuine warmth of the MH crew are what makes the miles go by easier.
Morale must be at an all-time low presently. Hope they can rise again.
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It was an interrupted approach onto RW08L as an F15 became disabled on the runway; they had to break off to join visual left base for RW04R. It was a tight maneuver. The F/O was PF and as it was a left hand circuit, he kept bugging the captain to give him " visual radar vectors "
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It was an interrupted approach onto RW08L as an F15 became disabled on the runway; they had to break off to join visual left base for RW04R. It was a tight maneuver. The F/O was PF and as it was a left hand circuit, he kept bugging the captain to give him " visual radar vectors "...it was amazing and interesting how the 2 ton operation operated. Anyway, against all odds, they successfully completed that tight circuit spot on and the F/O pulled off a greaser onto the shorter runway!
BTW, 04R is not short. It's 9000ft long!
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It was an interrupted approach onto RW08L as an F15 became disabled on the runway; they had to break off to join visual left base for RW04R. It was a tight maneuver. The F/O was PF and as it was a left hand circuit, he kept bugging the captain to give him " visual radar vectors "
Not very professional were they? They should have carried out the full missed approach and re vectored for the other runway!
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It was an interrupted approach onto RW08L as an F15 became disabled on the runway; they had to break off to join visual left base for RW04R. It was a tight maneuver. The F/O was PF and as it was a left hand circuit, he kept bugging the captain to give him " visual radar vectors "
Not very professional were they? They should have carried out the full missed approach and re vectored for the other runway!
The only thing was the skipper tried selecting ILS 04R but the copilot told him to forget it; just concentrate on his turns... to tell him when to turn onto finals because of the quartering winds. His demand for " visual radar vectors "snapped the captain out of his momentary heads down and they executed the visual manual maneuver onto RW04R very comfortably and the copilot made a wonderful landing.
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It was an interrupted approach onto RW08L as an F15 became disabled on the runway; they had to break off to join visual left base for RW04R. It was a tight maneuver. The F/O was PF and as it was a left hand circuit, he kept bugging the captain to give him " visual radar vectors "...it was amazing and interesting how the 2 ton operation operated. Anyway, against all odds, they successfully completed that tight circuit spot on and the F/O pulled off a greaser onto the shorter runway!
It ain't that tight a circuit. Easily doable, no problema!
BTW, 04R is not short. It's 9000ft long!
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It was an interrupted approach onto RW08L as an F15 became disabled on the runway; they had to break off to join visual left base for RW04R. It was a tight maneuver. The F/O was PF and as it was a left hand circuit, he kept bugging the captain to give him " visual radar vectors "...it was amazing and interesting how the 2 ton operation operated. Anyway, against all odds, they successfully completed that tight circuit spot on and the F/O pulled off a greaser onto the shorter runway!
It ain't that tight a circuit. Easily doable, no problema!
BTW, 04R is not short. It's 9000ft long!
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When HNL tower ordered them to break off the approach, it was just before Camp HM Smith. They were told to turn right to join left base 04R if they had the runway insight. Both the pilots agreed that they had 04R in sight and they went for it!
RW08R was the departure runway with many aircrafts waiting for departure. They were not offered the side-step for 08R! If they were on the arm chairs in the retirement home " bunk flying ", they might have demanded to side-step for 08R!
RW08R was the departure runway with many aircrafts waiting for departure. They were not offered the side-step for 08R! If they were on the arm chairs in the retirement home " bunk flying ", they might have demanded to side-step for 08R!
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Dear Charsiew Pau,
As your name suggests you are here to be confrontational. Perhaps you should check yourself for dyslexia or perhaps haemorrhoids!
If you want to be myopic drilling down to Huat Lye to stress your point to the Malays. Nobody is disputing that. But to forget how the airline began is also denial of the true history of the airline and it's beginnings. Which is something a bitter twisted little man as your goodself would no doubly be inclined to do.
I certainly wouldn't like to ever share a cockpit with an autocratic self propelled hateful, racially motivated traducer as you.
Furthermore the way you portray yourself here is on par with the radicals that want to take the world back to the 700th century. And the very ones you allude to be the dysfunctional element.
Wake up and smell the roses before you have an aneurysm.
Wooblah.
P.S You may have the last say on this as I really don't mind as I realise that you are fuelled and thrive on one-upmanship.
As your name suggests you are here to be confrontational. Perhaps you should check yourself for dyslexia or perhaps haemorrhoids!
If you want to be myopic drilling down to Huat Lye to stress your point to the Malays. Nobody is disputing that. But to forget how the airline began is also denial of the true history of the airline and it's beginnings. Which is something a bitter twisted little man as your goodself would no doubly be inclined to do.
I certainly wouldn't like to ever share a cockpit with an autocratic self propelled hateful, racially motivated traducer as you.
Furthermore the way you portray yourself here is on par with the radicals that want to take the world back to the 700th century. And the very ones you allude to be the dysfunctional element.
Wake up and smell the roses before you have an aneurysm.
Wooblah.
P.S You may have the last say on this as I really don't mind as I realise that you are fuelled and thrive on one-upmanship.
Lots of orang puteh expats those days ada budak simpan, you know!
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In the mean time, back at the farm...
Jentayu laments Khazanah cancelling meeting to discuss MAS takeover - The Malaysian Insider
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Jentayu laments Khazanah cancelling meeting to discuss MAS takeover - The Malaysian Insider
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The puppet master has a very long memory and his black book is very up to date. The camel tried emulating him too with his black book in his hey days but then again the camel is mulish whereas the pupet master is brilliant.
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When HNL tower ordered them to break off the approach, it was just before Camp HM Smith. They were told to turn right to join left base 04R if they had the runway insight. Both the pilots agreed that they had 04R in sight and they went for it!
RW08R was the departure runway with many aircrafts waiting for departure. They were not offered the side-step for 08R! If they were on the arm chairs in the retirement home " bunk flying ", they might have demanded to side-step for 08R!
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When HNL tower ordered them to break off the approach, it was just before Camp HM Smith. They were told to turn right to join left base 04R if they had the runway insight. Both the pilots agreed that they had 04R in sight and they went for it!
RW08R was the departure runway with many aircrafts waiting for departure. They were not offered the side-step for 08R! If they were on the arm chairs in the retirement home " bunk flying ", they might have demanded to side-step for 08R!
However you committed the cardinal sin of heaping accolades on the 2 Malaysian pilots. It is a no no. The skygods will take you down! You can only pillory Asian pilots, never ever praise them. That seems to be their message to you. Mahalo!
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Mueller is the real deal.
Pity anyone who tries to bull**** him or cross him. He was a German Army Sergeant.
Office staff....Turn up for work on time , don't bunk off home early.
No one is safe.
A big big loss for Aer Lingus.
MAS will be turned around. He will be successful but there will be more pain.
Pity anyone who tries to bull**** him or cross him. He was a German Army Sergeant.
Office staff....Turn up for work on time , don't bunk off home early.
No one is safe.
A big big loss for Aer Lingus.
MAS will be turned around. He will be successful but there will be more pain.
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Molokai When HNL tower ordered them to break off the approach, it was just before Camp HM Smith. They were told to turn right to join left base 04R if they had the runway insight. Both the pilots agreed that they had 04R in sight and they went for it!
RW08R was the departure runway with many aircrafts waiting for departure. They were not offered the side-step for 08R! If they were on the arm chairs in the retirement home " bunk flying ", they might have demanded to side-step for 08R!
Molokai When HNL tower ordered them to break off the approach, it was just before Camp HM Smith. They were told to turn right to join left base 04R if they had the runway insight. Both the pilots agreed that they had 04R in sight and they went for it!
RW08R was the departure runway with many aircrafts waiting for departure. They were not offered the side-step for 08R! If they were on the arm chairs in the retirement home " bunk flying ", they might have demanded to side-step for 08R!
Years ago we had a so called ace botched a similar maneuver on a 767 pulling up just after the Barbers Point Golf Course. He hit toga and had a hard time managing the automatics after that. Even after clicking off george and arty, he overshot the whole jingbang visual eyeball thingy onto 04R. HNL probably had a good laugh and vectored him again for a wide right base 08L. I was the poor suffering F/O and we had a very sullen evening at red lobsters instead of the usual lively watering hole...'nuff said!
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Very lucky for the F/O to have had that manual visual approach! During those early B744 days, the F/Os hardly had any actual flying! There were so many new guys on line training that an F/O would be lucky to get a landing in 3 months or so.
Some had to get to the sim to maintain T/O & Ldg currency. HNL flights were so popular that mostly Hassan's and Khairy's blue eye boys got them often; for the rest, may be once a year.
MAS will survive but it will have to return to a leaner operation in its niche market. The kaka's exhortation to fly to the 6 continents to further his grandiose agenda was a big disaster that bedevil the national carrier ever since.
Some had to get to the sim to maintain T/O & Ldg currency. HNL flights were so popular that mostly Hassan's and Khairy's blue eye boys got them often; for the rest, may be once a year.
MAS will survive but it will have to return to a leaner operation in its niche market. The kaka's exhortation to fly to the 6 continents to further his grandiose agenda was a big disaster that bedevil the national carrier ever since.
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Mueller is the real deal.
Pity anyone who tries to bull**** him or cross him. He was a German Army Sergeant.
Office staff....Turn up for work on time , don't bunk off home early.
No one is safe.
A big big loss for Aer Lingus.
MAS will be turned around. He will be successful but there will be more pain.
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Mueller is the real deal.
Pity anyone who tries to bull**** him or cross him. He was a German Army Sergeant.
Office staff....Turn up for work on time , don't bunk off home early.
No one is safe.
A big big loss for Aer Lingus.
MAS will be turned around. He will be successful but there will be more pain.
