Jet Airways’ pilots both sleeping, suspended after flight plunges 5,000 feet
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I would have guessed that based on the distance of the flight, this plane should have had three crew. Assuming that the captain was on a rest break rather than a bathroom break, that would mean that two FOs in cockpit were sleeping or otherwise didn't notice the descent.
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100% agreed! I just covered the flight deck bit, in my last airline the CC had to come to the FD at least once every twenty to thirty minutes anyway, to see if we needed water etc. were both still awake etc.! 
When I was in Jet, it was legal for two pilots to do up to 10 hours of flight time, if at the planning stage it looked like 10 hours might be exceeded an extra crew member was called out…however I must say those early A.M. departures out of BOM/DEL for LHR/BRU were very tiring, it was not unusual for the other crew member (local) to order blankets and pillows from the cabin crew and curl up in their seat and sleep for several hours, leaving their equally fatigued colleague to press on single pilot…. 
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The news was blown by the times news network in print and tv here in India.
The entire incident is based upon the only known fact viz
Ha ha ha... THe only thing the DGCA here is scared about is the media!
Also the incident is approxa month or so old so the avherald investigation doesnt really stand any where...
The entire incident is based upon the only known fact viz
"The Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) got to know about this incident on Tuesday when its joint DG Lalit Gupta got an anonymous SMS about the "level burst", or uncontrolled descent."
Also the incident is approxa month or so old so the avherald investigation doesnt really stand any where...
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Zlin, this is a normal course of action for Air India too. Even before take off, the pillows and blankets appear.
The DGCA, unfortunately is a basket case, unable to tackle the indiscipline of the crew, and within themselves.
As long as the people of Delhi are in charge, nothing will change in India, aviation wise, or as a nation.
India now has a Gujarati for PM, there is some light at the end of the tunnel, hopefully for Indian aviation.
The DGCA, unfortunately is a basket case, unable to tackle the indiscipline of the crew, and within themselves.
As long as the people of Delhi are in charge, nothing will change in India, aviation wise, or as a nation.
India now has a Gujarati for PM, there is some light at the end of the tunnel, hopefully for Indian aviation.
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Wow rdr that is quite a hypothesis.....what was the country thinking all this time electing people from 26 other states and territories.....
Hopefully some of the motels in the US might also improve now!
Hopefully some of the motels in the US might also improve now!
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Alert Management : While undertaking controlled rest, establish procedures to maintain alertness of non-resting flight crew members. The Captain shall inform the CCIC of the intention of the flight crew member to take controlled rest, and of the time of the end of that rest. The CCIC must establish a frequent check on the Flight crew by means of the interphone system. Preferably, and in order not to disturb the resting crew member, the non-resting Flight crew member should call the Cabin crew approximately every 20 minutes (night) or 30 minutes (day). The CCIC shall call the non-resting Flight crew member or shall make a physical check if no communication has been established in the given time.
