New Lion Air Rishworth contract
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New Lion Air Rishworth contract
This just showed up in my inbox.
Sooo bad that I thought I would share!
RISHWORTH AVIATION CONTRACT TERMS AND CONDITIONS B737NG COMMAND UPGRADE PROGRAM
The Opportunity Lion Air is seeking qualified and experienced B737NG rated First Officers to join them for a 5 year contract as part of a command upgrade program (the Program).
This is an exclusive arrangement offered only through Rishworth Aviation's crew leasing service where you will receive the support of Asia's largest crew leasing agency throughout your contract term.
Opportunities are limited under the Program and interest level is high. Only those candidates who possess the right skills and attitude will be selected to interview for and enter the Program. If you have an exceptional flying background and skills, and can make a long term commitment to the Airline we'd love to hear from you.
Monthly Payment: Figures quoted are net of Indonesian taxes, in USD and are based on 10 weeks on 2 weeks off duty roster. However, the first rotation will be completed on a 16 weeks on and 3 weeks off basis, to allow for progress with initial training and other start of contract formalities.
From the 1st day of arrival at base residence;
A Rate: US$3,100 per month (pro-rated for part month) for a maximum period of 26 weeks, or until checked to fly line operations as Pilot in Command (whichever is the earliest);
Thereafter:
B Rate: US$6,000 per month (pro-rated for part month) for a period of 24 months counted from either;
• The 27th week operating as First Officer: or
• The day after the candidate has being cleared to fly Line Operations as Pilot in Command.
C Rate: US$6,500 per month (pro-rated for part month) for a period of 36 months after completing 24 months of continuous service as a Pilot in Command.
Note: Any unpaid, extended service leave breaks shall not be counted towards the service calculation for purposes of time based service fee increases.
Bond: The Airline requires a bond of US$30,000 to join the Program (the Bond). The Bond may either be in the form of a bank guarantee or cash. Cash amounts are held by Rishworth with any interest payable at listed bank rates. Bank guarantees are required to be from an approved bank and be made in favour of Rishworth Aviation. Further details will be provided as necessary.
The Bond (cash) will be refunded or bank guarantee obligations cancelled in favour of the candidate due to; 1. Completion of the assignment period, being 5 years starting from being cleared to fly line operations as Pilot in Command; or 2. The assignment period being terminated early by the Airline without cause, or the DGCA failing to renew license validations. The Bond will be forfeited by the candidate if; 1. The assignment period is terminated before expiry of the 5 years by the candidate; or 2. The candidate's assignment period is terminated by the Airline for reasons including (but not limited to) failure to keep home country license valid, disciplinary reasons, failure to maintain appropriate standards etc.
In the event a candidate fails the upgrade training and does not continue with the Airline as a First Officer US$10,000 will be forfeited from the Bond by the candidate upon termination and upon completing all necessary exit procedures as required by the Airline. If the candidate agrees to stay on as a First Officer for a 12 month assignment period and terminates the assignment period before 12 months is completed, then the candidate will be required to repay US$10,000 from the Bond, and if no notice is given, or the notice period is less than required, repayment will be US$15,000.
Overtime: Overtime will be payable after completing 90 block hours per month. Only Pilots operating as Captain shall be eligible to receive overtime payments after being checked to fly line operations.
Minimum Requirements /Hours:
− 1,000 hours time on B737NG as First Officer;
− 4,000 hours total time;
− ICAO ATPL or ATP with unrestricted B737NG type rating;
− Valid Instrument rating (P1), or with P2, SIC, COP restrictions (see notes)
− Current Valid Class One Medical;
− Level 4 or higher ICAO English language level;
− Must be aged between 26 and 36 years of age at time of application.
Sooo bad that I thought I would share!
RISHWORTH AVIATION CONTRACT TERMS AND CONDITIONS B737NG COMMAND UPGRADE PROGRAM
The Opportunity Lion Air is seeking qualified and experienced B737NG rated First Officers to join them for a 5 year contract as part of a command upgrade program (the Program).
This is an exclusive arrangement offered only through Rishworth Aviation's crew leasing service where you will receive the support of Asia's largest crew leasing agency throughout your contract term.
Opportunities are limited under the Program and interest level is high. Only those candidates who possess the right skills and attitude will be selected to interview for and enter the Program. If you have an exceptional flying background and skills, and can make a long term commitment to the Airline we'd love to hear from you.
Monthly Payment: Figures quoted are net of Indonesian taxes, in USD and are based on 10 weeks on 2 weeks off duty roster. However, the first rotation will be completed on a 16 weeks on and 3 weeks off basis, to allow for progress with initial training and other start of contract formalities.
From the 1st day of arrival at base residence;
A Rate: US$3,100 per month (pro-rated for part month) for a maximum period of 26 weeks, or until checked to fly line operations as Pilot in Command (whichever is the earliest);
Thereafter:
B Rate: US$6,000 per month (pro-rated for part month) for a period of 24 months counted from either;
• The 27th week operating as First Officer: or
• The day after the candidate has being cleared to fly Line Operations as Pilot in Command.
C Rate: US$6,500 per month (pro-rated for part month) for a period of 36 months after completing 24 months of continuous service as a Pilot in Command.
Note: Any unpaid, extended service leave breaks shall not be counted towards the service calculation for purposes of time based service fee increases.
Bond: The Airline requires a bond of US$30,000 to join the Program (the Bond). The Bond may either be in the form of a bank guarantee or cash. Cash amounts are held by Rishworth with any interest payable at listed bank rates. Bank guarantees are required to be from an approved bank and be made in favour of Rishworth Aviation. Further details will be provided as necessary.
The Bond (cash) will be refunded or bank guarantee obligations cancelled in favour of the candidate due to; 1. Completion of the assignment period, being 5 years starting from being cleared to fly line operations as Pilot in Command; or 2. The assignment period being terminated early by the Airline without cause, or the DGCA failing to renew license validations. The Bond will be forfeited by the candidate if; 1. The assignment period is terminated before expiry of the 5 years by the candidate; or 2. The candidate's assignment period is terminated by the Airline for reasons including (but not limited to) failure to keep home country license valid, disciplinary reasons, failure to maintain appropriate standards etc.
In the event a candidate fails the upgrade training and does not continue with the Airline as a First Officer US$10,000 will be forfeited from the Bond by the candidate upon termination and upon completing all necessary exit procedures as required by the Airline. If the candidate agrees to stay on as a First Officer for a 12 month assignment period and terminates the assignment period before 12 months is completed, then the candidate will be required to repay US$10,000 from the Bond, and if no notice is given, or the notice period is less than required, repayment will be US$15,000.
Overtime: Overtime will be payable after completing 90 block hours per month. Only Pilots operating as Captain shall be eligible to receive overtime payments after being checked to fly line operations.
Minimum Requirements /Hours:
− 1,000 hours time on B737NG as First Officer;
− 4,000 hours total time;
− ICAO ATPL or ATP with unrestricted B737NG type rating;
− Valid Instrument rating (P1), or with P2, SIC, COP restrictions (see notes)
− Current Valid Class One Medical;
− Level 4 or higher ICAO English language level;
− Must be aged between 26 and 36 years of age at time of application.
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The program
Wow..
Lion Air gets more and more innovative eh????
I can't think of anyone who's currently flying with an airline as a P-2 that'll be stupid enough to apply to the "PROGRAM".
Maybe a P2F pilot who's paid for 1000 hrs and now wants to pay for his/her command
What next, Pay to become a TRI/TRE????
masalama.
Lion Air gets more and more innovative eh????
I can't think of anyone who's currently flying with an airline as a P-2 that'll be stupid enough to apply to the "PROGRAM".
Maybe a P2F pilot who's paid for 1000 hrs and now wants to pay for his/her command
What next, Pay to become a TRI/TRE????
masalama.
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wow this is weird, can anyone clarify for me the rule changes being brought about in indonesia?
we were informed that dgca doesn't want to upgrade the foreign first officers who already work in indonesia? How can rishworth offer this program with the new rules coming in? am i missing something ?
we were informed that dgca doesn't want to upgrade the foreign first officers who already work in indonesia? How can rishworth offer this program with the new rules coming in
? am i missing something ?
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Farking ridiculous. The upgrade has nothing to do with ability nor aptitude, just cash.
Honestly this will throw any captains that come out of lion air into serious disrepute. If you are a captain there right now you would be smart to start applying for other jobs right now or you will be stuck there forever. Jesus christ, just stop applying to ****ty jobs with humiliating conditions and the industry will be forced to offer better terms.
Honestly this will throw any captains that come out of lion air into serious disrepute. If you are a captain there right now you would be smart to start applying for other jobs right now or you will be stuck there forever. Jesus christ, just stop applying to ****ty jobs with humiliating conditions and the industry will be forced to offer better terms.
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I guess next Lion Air will require a pilot to buy a 737 and give it to them to fly there. I hope some one starts a list of names and keeps it updated if people buy into this crap so they can be considered scabs.
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There be a lot grumpy FOs in Lionair. who are receiving sh*T pay and and been there many years who oversee by lion to upgrade.. even they meet the minimums.
But see the other side... i heard there a many expats have a issue with attitude and god gift to flying syndrome etc... but not as bad as some east asia friends.
anyhow 30K USD bond is pricey.. and RISH worth is going to keep a healthy interest from the bonds they keep...
But see the other side... i heard there a many expats have a issue with attitude and god gift to flying syndrome etc... but not as bad as some east asia friends.
anyhow 30K USD bond is pricey.. and RISH worth is going to keep a healthy interest from the bonds they keep...
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Better to apply with Tigerair Mandala. They are hiring for Bali base starting December this year, Capt/ SFO. They also started FO to Captain upgrade.
pilot.recruitment(at)tigermandala.com
Good luck
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"RISHWORTH AVIA-WHORE"
I've always said that Rishworth is a pimping company. They will do whatever they need to do in order to pull quid off you.
RW has no morals, it is all about hosing you to benefit them.
The fact they will not refuse a contractual aberration such as this is very demonstrative of their respect for Crew members.
Work for RW and you are a Avia-Whore. You deserve everything bad that happens to you.....you lowered the industry standards by accepting the AVIA-Whore title. Next time you bitch about how bad your standard of living is, just look in the mirror and tell yourself...."I am an AVIA-WHORE, I did this to myself and I deserve everything bad that happens to me". "I sold my soul to RW and I am now an AVIA-WHORE, so I cannot expect to be treated like a professional...I am an AVIA-WHORE".
You wanted it, now you got it. Work for RW and you are an AVIA-Whore.
RW has no morals, it is all about hosing you to benefit them.
The fact they will not refuse a contractual aberration such as this is very demonstrative of their respect for Crew members.
Work for RW and you are a Avia-Whore. You deserve everything bad that happens to you.....you lowered the industry standards by accepting the AVIA-Whore title. Next time you bitch about how bad your standard of living is, just look in the mirror and tell yourself...."I am an AVIA-WHORE, I did this to myself and I deserve everything bad that happens to me". "I sold my soul to RW and I am now an AVIA-WHORE, so I cannot expect to be treated like a professional...I am an AVIA-WHORE".
You wanted it, now you got it. Work for RW and you are an AVIA-Whore.
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RISHWORTH AVIA-WHORE"
Rishworth has not been perfect in the past, but I can assure you that over the last ten years they have risen to the top, especially by not gaffing their crews each payday and calling it a banking fee, I think they currently charge $9.00 wire transfer fee, their health insurance has been better than the competitions for a long time.
In between my contracts with different airlines, they voluntarily kept up the health insurance benefits without any gaps, they are honest and very helpful when problems occur, I've had two contracts with them and would gladly go to work for them again if they would have me!
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First time
Hi guys
This is my first post in one of those forums.
I received this offer to work at Lion Air from one of the recruitment person of Rishworth and I get very interested.
If some of you could clarify what are the negatives points against Lion Air, I will appreciated.
Thanks for you patient.
This is my first post in one of those forums.
I received this offer to work at Lion Air from one of the recruitment person of Rishworth and I get very interested.
If some of you could clarify what are the negatives points against Lion Air, I will appreciated.
Thanks for you patient.
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You are "very" interested?? It is all negative?? can you not read this thread??!! Or is this a joke on us?? 
Crikey how bad are the t & c in Brazil!!
Crikey how bad are the t & c in Brazil!!
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No, it is not a joke..
I work for the second airline company which pay more in Brazil and the salary is almost the same that they are offering in Lion Air.
My rank here is 371 in company's fleet and I have no expectation for a promotion, at least none in 4 more years..
I know that exist better companies with better contracts and that's exactly why I am asking what is wrong with these one here...
If there is any expat that works for Lion Air I really would like to hear from..
I work for the second airline company which pay more in Brazil and the salary is almost the same that they are offering in Lion Air.
My rank here is 371 in company's fleet and I have no expectation for a promotion, at least none in 4 more years..
I know that exist better companies with better contracts and that's exactly why I am asking what is wrong with these one here...
If there is any expat that works for Lion Air I really would like to hear from..
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How much is the hourly allowance? Do you only get allowance after the first 90 hours block? Or it means you are guaranteed to get 90 hours block even if you fly below 90 hours a month?
