ST Aviation Academy to train Qatar Airways MPL cadet pilots
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For rumours, I haven't heard anything.
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I heard that the issue right now is that they don't have enough line instructor captains for 320s but oh well, you'll never really know what are their plans
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I came across FTE Jerez before and didn't see a QR MPL and to my knowledge they only have a 737 sim not 320 sim. Do you guys have any advice if going to CTC as a self-sponsored cadet not backed by an airline would be the stupidest decision I'll ever make? (Not that I have money to throw like that but I'm working towards it)
I heard that the issue right now is that they don't have enough line instructor captains for 320s but oh well, you'll never really know what are their plans
@flying.monkeyz
I came across FTE Jerez before and didn't see a QR MPL and to my knowledge they only have a 737 sim not 320 sim. Do you guys have any advice if going to CTC as a self-sponsored cadet not backed by an airline would be the stupidest decision I'll ever make? (Not that I have money to throw like that but I'm working towards it)
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I think it depends on you. Do you really want to become a pilot that you're willing to spent so much money? I just heard rumours from my friend that Qatar is gonna remove MPL Programme from CTC as well so you're left with CPL Programme which doesn't guarantee you any job. Have you tried applying for SIA sponsorship?
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@air_xyz
I heard that the issue right now is that they don't have enough line instructor captains for 320s but oh well, you'll never really know what are their plans
@flying.monkeyz
I came across FTE Jerez before and didn't see a QR MPL and to my knowledge they only have a 737 sim not 320 sim. Do you guys have any advice if going to CTC as a self-sponsored cadet not backed by an airline would be the stupidest decision I'll ever make? (Not that I have money to throw like that but I'm working towards it)
I heard that the issue right now is that they don't have enough line instructor captains for 320s but oh well, you'll never really know what are their plans
@flying.monkeyz
I came across FTE Jerez before and didn't see a QR MPL and to my knowledge they only have a 737 sim not 320 sim. Do you guys have any advice if going to CTC as a self-sponsored cadet not backed by an airline would be the stupidest decision I'll ever make? (Not that I have money to throw like that but I'm working towards it)
I can't really comment as I do not have first hand experience with CTC, but it is a very established school and has trained many airline pilots. I know of people who did self-sponsored program who were recruited and has started flying, and also people doing airline-backed program and were terminated.
One of the trait of being a great pilot is taking calculated risk, and it starts with picking your flight school. As long as you've done your homework and find out as much as you can, then make a decision and move on. There is no such thing as "the stupidest decision". If it doesn't work out, then learn from it.
Good luck.
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Hi wy1991,
I can't really comment as I do not have first hand experience with CTC, but it is a very established school and has trained many airline pilots. I know of people who did self-sponsored program who were recruited and has started flying, and also people doing airline-backed program and were terminated.
One of the trait of being a great pilot is taking calculated risk, and it starts with picking your flight school. As long as you've done your homework and find out as much as you can, then make a decision and move on. There is no such thing as "the stupidest decision". If it doesn't work out, then learn from it.
Good luck.
I can't really comment as I do not have first hand experience with CTC, but it is a very established school and has trained many airline pilots. I know of people who did self-sponsored program who were recruited and has started flying, and also people doing airline-backed program and were terminated.
One of the trait of being a great pilot is taking calculated risk, and it starts with picking your flight school. As long as you've done your homework and find out as much as you can, then make a decision and move on. There is no such thing as "the stupidest decision". If it doesn't work out, then learn from it.
Good luck.
Thanks for your well wishes and advice. I'm really curious about which path did you take towards achieving this dream. I've been doing plenty of research and trying to get to know the industry as best as I can. So any help is deeply appreciated.
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Rumor has it STAA was struggling to get sims/training done on time, and as said previously, another company bought out the a320 simulators and from the looks of things, the organization at STAA wasnt up to par adding to the delays. QR is also dealing with delayed Airbus orders, plus a shortage of training captains (huge shortage). With the STAA contract due this year, they simply just didnt renew it - from the website, 2017 was the contract end date with STAA. I do not think QR will pull out of CTC, not sure when that contract is until but the airline needs pilots, their QAC national program isnt enough, i think CTC is safe still but you never know, either they will oull out of the MPL programs completely, or give the business to CTC or find another training company? Who knows!
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To all of you aspiring cadet, I was once in the hopes of making it thru this program. I passed both interviews and aced the aptitude test. However, a week before the start of my course, I had to pull out due to my personal financial issues at that time. My dream to be an airline pilot is still alive and in the process of manifesting. However I would like to enlighten you folks with some of the lessons I learnt.
I have some friends who are cadets at STAA and some of whom are pilots at QA. These are their accounts. Do not apply for this program unless u have $250,000++ as loose change lying around. It is not worth the risk. Do not leave your financial dependency to a bank. STAA is an okay school. I have not heard anything negative about them and from my experience alone I can affirm that they are a very well established school. You will have a great time at school. The problem comes after you are employed. (Provided you do not underperform at any point in time during the training)
QA has a very strict policy when it comes to the performance of its pilots. Remember this is a very physically taxing job. Any mistake will lead to immediate termination and deportation from the country. I have known of 5 pilots (Most of whom are STAA cadet) who have been fired and deported from Qatar and these are their stories.
One Muslim pilot was standing on the street with his Girlfriend. His hands were around her waist. It so happened that the religious police came by to the spot. They asked him for his details, next day called up for investigation, the next day deported to Singapore.
One pilot forgot to flare right before landing. I am unsure whether he forgot or didn't flare enough but it caused structural damage to the aircraft and recorded 2.5Gs. Captain demoted, pilot fired and deported.
Another pilot forgot to retract the flaps after taking off prompting a level 3 warning. After landing investigation was conducted, the next day fired and deported.
Another pilot didn't configure his aircraft before landing in time and had to initiate a go around. He was cited to not be situationally aware and was fired.
One pilot didn't gel up his hair. Cited to have improper turnout when reporting to work. And he got fired. For such a minute reason.
AS this is an MPL program, all of these guys are currently without a job and a 250K loan on their heads.
Guys my intention is not to demotivate you or discourage you form applying into this. My intention is to share with you what you may not know and give you a realistic idea of what life maybe after landing your "Dream job" If you want to apply for this program, make sure you have $250,000 ++ as spare change. Do not go through with this leaving your financial dependency on a bank. Look at yourself and your family, evaluate the risks before jumping on board for the sake of "passion". It is not worth to take a full loan for this. If you have a very rich dad, go for it. Or if you have an unwavering belief that you will not end up like the men above, go for it. Do not kill your finances for an MPL program.
I wish each and everyone of you the very best in your future careers.
I have some friends who are cadets at STAA and some of whom are pilots at QA. These are their accounts. Do not apply for this program unless u have $250,000++ as loose change lying around. It is not worth the risk. Do not leave your financial dependency to a bank. STAA is an okay school. I have not heard anything negative about them and from my experience alone I can affirm that they are a very well established school. You will have a great time at school. The problem comes after you are employed. (Provided you do not underperform at any point in time during the training)
QA has a very strict policy when it comes to the performance of its pilots. Remember this is a very physically taxing job. Any mistake will lead to immediate termination and deportation from the country. I have known of 5 pilots (Most of whom are STAA cadet) who have been fired and deported from Qatar and these are their stories.
One Muslim pilot was standing on the street with his Girlfriend. His hands were around her waist. It so happened that the religious police came by to the spot. They asked him for his details, next day called up for investigation, the next day deported to Singapore.
One pilot forgot to flare right before landing. I am unsure whether he forgot or didn't flare enough but it caused structural damage to the aircraft and recorded 2.5Gs. Captain demoted, pilot fired and deported.
Another pilot forgot to retract the flaps after taking off prompting a level 3 warning. After landing investigation was conducted, the next day fired and deported.
Another pilot didn't configure his aircraft before landing in time and had to initiate a go around. He was cited to not be situationally aware and was fired.
One pilot didn't gel up his hair. Cited to have improper turnout when reporting to work. And he got fired. For such a minute reason.
AS this is an MPL program, all of these guys are currently without a job and a 250K loan on their heads.
Guys my intention is not to demotivate you or discourage you form applying into this. My intention is to share with you what you may not know and give you a realistic idea of what life maybe after landing your "Dream job" If you want to apply for this program, make sure you have $250,000 ++ as spare change. Do not go through with this leaving your financial dependency on a bank. Look at yourself and your family, evaluate the risks before jumping on board for the sake of "passion". It is not worth to take a full loan for this. If you have a very rich dad, go for it. Or if you have an unwavering belief that you will not end up like the men above, go for it. Do not kill your finances for an MPL program.
I wish each and everyone of you the very best in your future careers.
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It's funny how 1stofficerkyle actually knows what's going on when he is not in the company.
I don't speak for the company but all i can say is that when people commit a mistake, they do not tell people the whole truth and they only tell people what makes them look good.
Most of the incident that he mentioned did not result in termination as those guys are still walking around in the company.
The company is not as heartless as what those rumours put it out to be as you can see they are just rumours. Although this is a rumour forum, facts should be checked first before spreading fear among everyone.
I don't speak for the company but all i can say is that when people commit a mistake, they do not tell people the whole truth and they only tell people what makes them look good.
Most of the incident that he mentioned did not result in termination as those guys are still walking around in the company.
The company is not as heartless as what those rumours put it out to be as you can see they are just rumours. Although this is a rumour forum, facts should be checked first before spreading fear among everyone.
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It's funny how 1stofficerkyle actually knows what's going on when he is not in the company.
I don't speak for the company but all i can say is that when people commit a mistake, they do not tell people the whole truth and they only tell people what makes them look good.
Most of the incident that he mentioned did not result in termination as those guys are still walking around in the company.
The company is not as heartless as what those rumours put it out to be as you can see they are just rumours. Although this is a rumour forum, facts should be checked first before spreading fear among everyone.
I don't speak for the company but all i can say is that when people commit a mistake, they do not tell people the whole truth and they only tell people what makes them look good.
Most of the incident that he mentioned did not result in termination as those guys are still walking around in the company.
The company is not as heartless as what those rumours put it out to be as you can see they are just rumours. Although this is a rumour forum, facts should be checked first before spreading fear among everyone.
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It's funny how 1stofficerkyle actually knows what's going on when he is not in the company.
I don't speak for the company but all i can say is that when people commit a mistake, they do not tell people the whole truth and they only tell people what makes them look good.
Most of the incident that he mentioned did not result in termination as those guys are still walking around in the company.
The company is not as heartless as what those rumours put it out to be as you can see they are just rumours. Although this is a rumour forum, facts should be checked first before spreading fear among everyone.
I don't speak for the company but all i can say is that when people commit a mistake, they do not tell people the whole truth and they only tell people what makes them look good.
Most of the incident that he mentioned did not result in termination as those guys are still walking around in the company.
The company is not as heartless as what those rumours put it out to be as you can see they are just rumours. Although this is a rumour forum, facts should be checked first before spreading fear among everyone.
I personally know a few of those who were let go, i can say they were definitely treated wrongly and none of them had bad records as the rumours go. They definitely made mistakes which deserved some punishment but those mistakes did not warrant termination.
That said, I know people who made worst mistakes than them but got off lightly and are still in the company. So its kinda just a matter of luck over here.
