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Found out former chief pilot let go because would not fly illegal flight, also senior instructor would not fly aircraft missing MEL items. Both pilots protecting their licenses.
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Missed Insurance payments to Loyd's of London, Insurance set to be canceled for NO payment this month, Not looking good, Jacob sent out a letter full of him self, say will be "best airline in the world"
he had to fire all management because" they could not take them to next level" i think the next level is out of business owing Millions and hopeful not killing any body.
he had to fire all management because" they could not take them to next level" i think the next level is out of business owing Millions and hopeful not killing any body.
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ok more for your viewing enjoyed ment.
SERVICE REQUEST ID: 2-2408791134
PRIORITY: AOG
ACCOUNT: Jet Asia (JCE)
DUE DATE: 21-Mar-2013
PROJECT: BFSBKK-Bangkok-Thailand
PRODUCT TYPE: Airplane
PRODUCT LINE: 767
PRODUCT: 767-200
ATA: 4911-00
AIRPLANE (VARIABLE/SERIAL): VA718/24324 REGISTRY: HS-JAE
HOURS/CYCLES:/
SUBJECT: FW: AOG Incident B767 HS-JAE
P/F: First Officer
P/M: Captain
Atis Info : E 0430 190/11 mps Gust 16 Mps 05/-07 1005 Nosig
On today flight from Shenyang to Bangkok we experience a situation during the takeoff, at rotation we lost both generators. The stby engine indicator didn't work, stby flight instruments didn't work. All instruments have the flags and screens were off. We start the apu ASAP while the PF was flying with outside reference.
We were not able to put the landing gear up, we have to use the lock ovrd. After the apu came in line we recover the Capt. Instruments, stby instruments and stby engine indications. Then the Capt. took control of the aircraft because his instruments start working. Then we reset the generators, utility buses, after the reset the electrical power was recovered.
The HDG didn't work after loosing both generators, sty power also didn't work. The cabin crew notify that the emergency lights work correctly.
At 30.000' we lost the apu (apu fault). Apparently The Hyd Gen still on after recovering the electrical power.
SERVICE REQUEST ID: 2-2408791134
PRIORITY: AOG
ACCOUNT: Jet Asia (JCE)
DUE DATE: 21-Mar-2013
PROJECT: BFSBKK-Bangkok-Thailand
PRODUCT TYPE: Airplane
PRODUCT LINE: 767
PRODUCT: 767-200
ATA: 4911-00
AIRPLANE (VARIABLE/SERIAL): VA718/24324 REGISTRY: HS-JAE
HOURS/CYCLES:/
SUBJECT: FW: AOG Incident B767 HS-JAE
P/F: First Officer
P/M: Captain
Atis Info : E 0430 190/11 mps Gust 16 Mps 05/-07 1005 Nosig
On today flight from Shenyang to Bangkok we experience a situation during the takeoff, at rotation we lost both generators. The stby engine indicator didn't work, stby flight instruments didn't work. All instruments have the flags and screens were off. We start the apu ASAP while the PF was flying with outside reference.
We were not able to put the landing gear up, we have to use the lock ovrd. After the apu came in line we recover the Capt. Instruments, stby instruments and stby engine indications. Then the Capt. took control of the aircraft because his instruments start working. Then we reset the generators, utility buses, after the reset the electrical power was recovered.
The HDG didn't work after loosing both generators, sty power also didn't work. The cabin crew notify that the emergency lights work correctly.
At 30.000' we lost the apu (apu fault). Apparently The Hyd Gen still on after recovering the electrical power.
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what does that light mean?
I think you should go anyways Capt. we really need the airplane in HKT. if not we will reconsider your contract....
Thanks for be the most respected pilot to fly thisway. oopsss.
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JetAsia and more unsafe operations
Last week aircraft JAK left Changsha. On departure the right landing gear failed to retract. This time the crew opted to return instead of flying to Thailand with failed hydraulics. Was there any communication with OCC or support from the flight operations department in any way? Not possible as there is nothing there to assist any pilot in case of a malfunction. Call the chief pilot? There isn't one. The only plausible solution is for the Sabas to astroproject themselves and magically fix the hydraulics and land the aircraft. Why not? they are the smartest people in the universe, just ask them.
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Wow, I haven't been back here in a while.
what new developments have happened? I am hearing that there are labor lawyers lining up to find former employees to sue, I here the Sabas Brothers have no regard for Thai labor law. looks like they shark lawyers are seeing easy pickings
what new developments have happened? I am hearing that there are labor lawyers lining up to find former employees to sue, I here the Sabas Brothers have no regard for Thai labor law. looks like they shark lawyers are seeing easy pickings
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The incompetence and corruption continue. Pilot pay is always wrong and every "mistake" is in favor of the company. The acting DO is a South African troll who lost his medical years ago and is infamous in the industry as a pedantic prat, threatens pilots with termination if they ask for the pay they have earned. All the while, defending the actions of the two thieving brothers, who don't pay their vendors or insurance on time. Now the company is looking for struck work to fly. Be assured if you fly one leg of struck work you will never work for a first tier IFALPA carrier. You will relegate yourself to the jetasias of the world. That means, low pay, no benefits, many job changes, no retirement. If that is the life you envision for yourself and your family, by all means work for jetasia and enjoy.
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Just heard today that Air Asia Atlantic is hosting another class, they are touting how By july most contracted flights to Jet Asia will be transferred to AAA. so it means all the H.I.S. travel agent flights out of Japan will be going to their own airline , (Air Asia Atlantic.)
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Jet Asia Bangkok Crooks
I agree with all posts re. Jet Asia. Having worked for them (8 months), only once did I get a "pay advise" (sic) sheet. Note: it was totally incorrect. The two children brothers delight in actually deducting money from the "salary", usually with no discernible reason. During my last days at this manifestly unsafe operation, I looked at another carrier and word got back to the brothers. The very NEXT day... terminated. Up to that point I was on outstanding terms with the then current Flight Ops. management. In point of fact, I was told by the upper management (not owners), they were directed to terminate me simply because I looked elsewhere. The operative word is "looked". They brothers (Jacob and Ibrhim) are now only hiring Mexican or South American pilots (Captains) and Thai F/Os. With due respect to virtually all of my aviation brothers and sisters, if you even contemplate taking a position with these miscreants, you have a serious mental defect. I've been in the business for over 30+ years and can say, with all honesty, this operator is the absolute worst carrier in the known aviation world. From day 1, the lies and obfuscation are the rule, rather than the exception. Stay away at all costs.
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The two paranoid schizophrenic brothers will surely stiff you for as much pay as they can. I suggest you start with a Thai labor lawyer now. The good news is that the brothers have not prevailed in any of the lawsuits.
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Would someone please explain the difference between cash flow and financial performance. The bottom line is pilots don't get paid. Don't worry though the brothers can still reside at the Marriott suites.
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Late pay Loss of route authority to China
From: Jacob Saba
Sent: 20 November 2014 22:54
To: Jet Asia Airways
Subject: November 1st Salary
Dear Jet Asia,
I want to thank you all for being as patient as you all have been regarding the delay in salary payments which were due on November 1st. I know how much everyone needs their pay check to make ends meet and how much everyone depends on it being paid on time. Despite that you guys have been very understanding and patient and I really truly thank you for that. We expect to be in a position to pay the salaries that were due up to November 1st on Monday.
This unfortunate delay in salary payments is a result of a combination of things which were unexpected. As you all know we operated almost 1,400 hours for Air India during their Hajj operation, we did a great job and fought though the challenges we faced with that hard operation. Unfortunately due to some operational irregularities by another airline with who we collaborated with Air India has not paid the final 3 weeks of flights. At the same time China has rejected all of our flight permits for the month of November for reason which are still unclear.
These two difficult situations happened quite unexpectedly. The unexpected nature of this situation left us without enough time to plan or react which is why faced this sudden cash shortage. We expect that things will stabilize in the month of December onwards.
Despite this whole lot of bad news in a short period of time we have lots of good news.
This past Tuesday we implemented our brand new Ticketing and Reservation system, Altea from Amadeus. This is a world class ticketing and reservation system used by leading airlines around world. This will allows us to sell through the GDS and other channels.
We have received all of our permits to begin operating flight between Jakarta and Jeddah via Bangkok starting December 16th. Our sales team has done a great job and this will be one of our most profitable routes.
Our Tokyo flights are selling extremely well, we expect it to be profitable in November which is a great feat since we only just launched it 45 days ago.
Our business for the UN is still going strong and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.
We are working hard to stabilize the situation again so that we can focus on growing our company and accomplishing all of the goals we have.
I once again want to thank you for your patience and for supporting me and the rest of the management team. We will get thing back on track as soon as possible.
Jacob Saba
President
Jet Asia Airways Company Limited
Level 29, The Offices at Centralworld
999/9 Rama I Road, Phatumwan,
Bangkok 10330 | Thailand
Tel: +662 207 2543
Email: [email protected]
Web: www.flyjetasia.com
Sent: 20 November 2014 22:54
To: Jet Asia Airways
Subject: November 1st Salary
Dear Jet Asia,
I want to thank you all for being as patient as you all have been regarding the delay in salary payments which were due on November 1st. I know how much everyone needs their pay check to make ends meet and how much everyone depends on it being paid on time. Despite that you guys have been very understanding and patient and I really truly thank you for that. We expect to be in a position to pay the salaries that were due up to November 1st on Monday.
This unfortunate delay in salary payments is a result of a combination of things which were unexpected. As you all know we operated almost 1,400 hours for Air India during their Hajj operation, we did a great job and fought though the challenges we faced with that hard operation. Unfortunately due to some operational irregularities by another airline with who we collaborated with Air India has not paid the final 3 weeks of flights. At the same time China has rejected all of our flight permits for the month of November for reason which are still unclear.
These two difficult situations happened quite unexpectedly. The unexpected nature of this situation left us without enough time to plan or react which is why faced this sudden cash shortage. We expect that things will stabilize in the month of December onwards.
Despite this whole lot of bad news in a short period of time we have lots of good news.
This past Tuesday we implemented our brand new Ticketing and Reservation system, Altea from Amadeus. This is a world class ticketing and reservation system used by leading airlines around world. This will allows us to sell through the GDS and other channels.
We have received all of our permits to begin operating flight between Jakarta and Jeddah via Bangkok starting December 16th. Our sales team has done a great job and this will be one of our most profitable routes.
Our Tokyo flights are selling extremely well, we expect it to be profitable in November which is a great feat since we only just launched it 45 days ago.
Our business for the UN is still going strong and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.
We are working hard to stabilize the situation again so that we can focus on growing our company and accomplishing all of the goals we have.
I once again want to thank you for your patience and for supporting me and the rest of the management team. We will get thing back on track as soon as possible.
Jacob Saba
President
Jet Asia Airways Company Limited
Level 29, The Offices at Centralworld
999/9 Rama I Road, Phatumwan,
Bangkok 10330 | Thailand
Tel: +662 207 2543
Email: [email protected]
Web: www.flyjetasia.com