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Good Morning colleagues, I'm planning to take an A320 captain contract in Vietnam, is there a big difference between HAN and SAI ? I would like to get some insight into Vietnam Airlines, Jetstar Pacific and Vietjet Air.
I very much appreciate your input.
Happy Flying..
I very much appreciate your input.
Happy Flying..
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I understand pilots at Vietjet have an ah hoc roster.
So you never know what your doing more than a day or so out.VNA has a 28 day roster, but expect changes, often. On a plus both Jetstar and Vietjet pay overtime. VNA does not! (Expect to fly +90hrs per month @ all 3)
VNA provide a seat on their metal within their network, upgradeable to business. VNA will feed you on their flts, dont think VJ or JSP? do. Otherwise same s*#t.
Expect on avg 7 days off per month at VN, others fly more efficiently so expect 10-12 days off.
Agencies MAKE a big difference so go with a reputable one.
Salaries can differ, medical insurance, loss of license, testicular fortitude when dealing with airline etc.
See thread by USMCPROBE on the matter (top of SE Asia forum)
If FO you can potentially pay for an upgrade. JSP 70% owned by VNA
So you never know what your doing more than a day or so out.VNA has a 28 day roster, but expect changes, often. On a plus both Jetstar and Vietjet pay overtime. VNA does not! (Expect to fly +90hrs per month @ all 3)
VNA provide a seat on their metal within their network, upgradeable to business. VNA will feed you on their flts, dont think VJ or JSP? do. Otherwise same s*#t.
Expect on avg 7 days off per month at VN, others fly more efficiently so expect 10-12 days off.
Agencies MAKE a big difference so go with a reputable one.
Salaries can differ, medical insurance, loss of license, testicular fortitude when dealing with airline etc.
See thread by USMCPROBE on the matter (top of SE Asia forum)
If FO you can potentially pay for an upgrade. JSP 70% owned by VNA
Greenlights:
Sorry,,,,those type of incidents could happen to anyone, even last week mighty and iconic Lufthansa had something in the same vein.
Just my 2 cents...
VietJet Air flight allegedly landed at wrong airport | Society | Thanh Nien Daily
says it all...
says it all...
Just my 2 cents...
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what Fleet?
If your talking about the A321 Fleet, the type of flights you mention are predominantly done by the local pilots to N Asia.
Hanoi seems to have a bit better mix of flying, but you have the crazy bus ride (+30mins)
from the airport to your drop off point.
Hanoi seems to have a bit better mix of flying, but you have the crazy bus ride (+30mins)
from the airport to your drop off point.
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If you live in district 7 at SGN you have a crazy ride for one hour to the airport, whether it is by your own bike or by a taxi for about 250 k. Airbus drivers go almost every day, let's say 5 times a week as t here are some overnights in japan - if not enlarged crew is operating, 250 to the airport and 250 back times 5 are about 2.5 million or 125 USD, so in a month you fork out about 500 USD for transport to work. In Hanoi the crazy ride as you described it is 30 min and for free, so where is the problem?
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If you live in district 7 at SGN you have a crazy ride for one hour to the airport,
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D7 has a bit of flaire, nice pubs and also if you have family, it is the better place.
For sure around the airport there is also places to rent, however they also come for some price. Served 8 years in SGN and got robbed while asleep, maid left the balcony door unlocked.........landlord said in typical way: sorry, sorry.... That's been it. Moved to hanoi and found it quite good, safe place, landlord ok, rent cheaper than SGN, pick up on time, so nothing to complain.
For sure around the airport there is also places to rent, however they also come for some price. Served 8 years in SGN and got robbed while asleep, maid left the balcony door unlocked.........landlord said in typical way: sorry, sorry.... That's been it. Moved to hanoi and found it quite good, safe place, landlord ok, rent cheaper than SGN, pick up on time, so nothing to complain.
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academic
VNA is hiring for the Hanoi base, so debates about D7 (not many there anymore) etc are academic.
Based on Mach's experience then all should be wonderful in Hanoi..
Hope all goes well!
Based on Mach's experience then all should be wonderful in Hanoi..
Hope all goes well!
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Vietjet lands at wrong airport, not.
This is what really happened and it will give you some insight at to what it's like working in Vietnam, or I should say Vietjet.
When we check in, or I should say, when I used to check in there, we would get, in most cases 4 flight plans for the day. All at the same time. So, we blast off, fly according to the 4 flight plans that we received. What really happened and it's typical of Vietjet management and their highly trained ground staff, is when the crew landed in Hanoi, and they were prepping for their next scheduled leg of the day to Cam Rahn, the ground staff came to the airplane and gave a "new" flight plan to the flight attendant. Of course, she never went into the cockpit and told the flight crew. Soooo, off they went, got the ATC clearance, per the original roster and flight plan. They never had any idea the company change the destination, and neither did ATC apparently. So, when they made the announcement of decent into Cam Rahn, only then did the flight attendant decide to call the cockpit and say they had a new flight plan and it was for Da lat. Right.
So, they grounded the pilots without pay and gave them a spanking. Of course, the Vietnamese staff didn't receive the same.
So, what do you think? The pilots messed up or was it a messed up company?
When we check in, or I should say, when I used to check in there, we would get, in most cases 4 flight plans for the day. All at the same time. So, we blast off, fly according to the 4 flight plans that we received. What really happened and it's typical of Vietjet management and their highly trained ground staff, is when the crew landed in Hanoi, and they were prepping for their next scheduled leg of the day to Cam Rahn, the ground staff came to the airplane and gave a "new" flight plan to the flight attendant. Of course, she never went into the cockpit and told the flight crew. Soooo, off they went, got the ATC clearance, per the original roster and flight plan. They never had any idea the company change the destination, and neither did ATC apparently. So, when they made the announcement of decent into Cam Rahn, only then did the flight attendant decide to call the cockpit and say they had a new flight plan and it was for Da lat. Right.
So, they grounded the pilots without pay and gave them a spanking. Of course, the Vietnamese staff didn't receive the same.
So, what do you think? The pilots messed up or was it a messed up company?
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Not entirely correct, Jaz
This is what actually happened:
Misinformed pilot causes Vietnam plane to land at wrong airport
Misinformed pilot causes Vietnam plane to land at wrong airport
"And the pilot himself (FO) was so careless that he signed the flight preparation record without noting the destination airport, he added."
About spanking:
Air coordinator sacked for Vietnam plane's mistaken landing
Air coordinator sacked for Vietnam plane's mistaken landing
"Other relevant employees received disciplinary warnings and had their salaries and bonuses cut, or were temporarily suspended from duty and had to be trained again"
The aftermath:
Vietnam airline under special supervision after wrong-airport scandal
http://tuoitrenews.vn/business/20609...irport-scandal
This is what actually happened:
Misinformed pilot causes Vietnam plane to land at wrong airport
Misinformed pilot causes Vietnam plane to land at wrong airport
"And the pilot himself (FO) was so careless that he signed the flight preparation record without noting the destination airport, he added."
About spanking:
Air coordinator sacked for Vietnam plane's mistaken landing
Air coordinator sacked for Vietnam plane's mistaken landing
"Other relevant employees received disciplinary warnings and had their salaries and bonuses cut, or were temporarily suspended from duty and had to be trained again"
The aftermath:
Vietnam airline under special supervision after wrong-airport scandal
http://tuoitrenews.vn/business/20609...irport-scandal
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Dear Stewsan
Could you please kindly tell me how did you find out the condo for $850? can you please recall the name and the contact person there please?
Thanks in advance
Thanks in advance
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Some new info regarding FO positions with Vietjet Air apparently:
Doing a quick calculation with these figures I come to about 6k a month, is that realistic? Anybody here currently working at Vietjet?
Does anybody have any information regarding upgrades to the left with Vietjet as well?
We are looking F/O to work in Vietnam and Thailand (min 300 hrs or 500 hrs on Type)
SALARY:
FIRST OFFICER BASIC SALARY:- 2600USD PLUS 35/HOUR USD PLUS 15/ SECTOR PLUS 500USD HOUSING ALLOWANCE (Hanoi Base)& 50USD PERDIEM.
SALARY:
FIRST OFFICER BASIC SALARY:- 2600USD PLUS 35/HOUR USD PLUS 15/ SECTOR PLUS 500USD HOUSING ALLOWANCE (Hanoi Base)& 50USD PERDIEM.
Does anybody have any information regarding upgrades to the left with Vietjet as well?
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Vietjet P2F and their agents
Hi guys,
Been reading this thread and posts and things look quite confusing for a new comer.
I'm a turboprop FO with aprox. 2500hrs total time and I have been looking for a chance to get an upgrade on a jet. Been months I sent CVs everywhere and the same answer kept coming...."You should have a type rating and 500 hours on type"
It's challenging and I don't want to be stuck on a turboprop for the rest of time.
The option of P2F is here and if this is what the industry wants, I have no choice.
I wrote to ATRANS on [email protected] and they never replied me back. I phoned them on their number (310) 721-7725 and it seems to be a wrong number.
If they exist and are reliable, does anyone have their contacts or proper phone numbers?
Also, I mailed and contacted the guys at Jet Training in UK.
[email protected]
They are quoting the 500 hours line training and 1 year job contract at EURO 62,000
Also, during the 1 year job contract, you only get USD 1000 per month as salary.
Talked to them and they have a P2F A320 starting in March 2015 with Vietjet.
They have no feedback yet from pilots who joined the program. He mentioned that you will fly with a validation and not a CAAV licence.
Anyone here has joined this program? If yes, are all these info correct?
I've never expected that one day I will have to think of the P2F option but I will have no choice in the end.
Positive feedback and precise information will be appreciated here.
Been reading this thread and posts and things look quite confusing for a new comer.
I'm a turboprop FO with aprox. 2500hrs total time and I have been looking for a chance to get an upgrade on a jet. Been months I sent CVs everywhere and the same answer kept coming...."You should have a type rating and 500 hours on type"
It's challenging and I don't want to be stuck on a turboprop for the rest of time.
The option of P2F is here and if this is what the industry wants, I have no choice.
I wrote to ATRANS on [email protected] and they never replied me back. I phoned them on their number (310) 721-7725 and it seems to be a wrong number.
If they exist and are reliable, does anyone have their contacts or proper phone numbers?
Also, I mailed and contacted the guys at Jet Training in UK.
[email protected]
They are quoting the 500 hours line training and 1 year job contract at EURO 62,000
Also, during the 1 year job contract, you only get USD 1000 per month as salary.
Talked to them and they have a P2F A320 starting in March 2015 with Vietjet.
They have no feedback yet from pilots who joined the program. He mentioned that you will fly with a validation and not a CAAV licence.
Anyone here has joined this program? If yes, are all these info correct?
I've never expected that one day I will have to think of the P2F option but I will have no choice in the end.
Positive feedback and precise information will be appreciated here.
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Try Flydubai... many Flybe FOs went there from the Turboprop.
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Theres bunch of guys from this agency stuck here atm because caav doesnt issue them the license (because their school is not approved by caav). And i dont see the agency trying to fix this problem anytime soon.... Again you have been warned!
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Any update on whether Vietjet would consider command upgrades for expat F/Os?
Latest FO package i've been offered for a 6/2 commuting roster is
2600 USD
43 USD/hour
18 USD/Sector
About 7100USD pm on a full month, down to 5000USD on the 2 week block. These are tax paid.
Does this sound about right to anyone working there?
Latest FO package i've been offered for a 6/2 commuting roster is
2600 USD
43 USD/hour
18 USD/Sector
About 7100USD pm on a full month, down to 5000USD on the 2 week block. These are tax paid.
Does this sound about right to anyone working there?