VietJet Air "NEW" Improved Terms

[squarecrow]

Let Nature take its course with that one, he must be running out of people who take him seriously there by now.

[kwaiyai]

Sounds like that @hole who was claiming to be a TRI in BKK?
amazing world!!

[Greenlights]

Hey guys,

any pilots in Vietjet ??
I have more than 1000h on type (320). as F/O.
would like to know the works conditions...and have true insights. It seems the airline is far from perfect but I think a lot better than Lionair.

2500 usd for the salary as I read above, right ? not so high but a lot enough to live in vietnam.

thanks guys !

[Black Crow]

any pilots in Vietjet ??
I have more than 1000h on type (320). as F/O.
would like to know the works conditions...and have true insights. It seems the airline is far from perfect but I think a lot better than Lionair.

2500 usd for the salary as I read above, right ? not so high but a lot enough to live in vietnam.

thanks guys !

This is the kind of mentality the SE Asian carriers love to hear. Forget industry standard wages and QOL, make just enough to live on and live and work like a slave.

[JGSE]

What about European LOCOs...easy, ryan, vueling, etc...???

[Greenlights]

This is the kind of mentality the SE Asian carriers love to hear. Forget industry standard wages and QOL, make just enough to live on and live and work like a slave.

Black Crow,

I do understand your point, but it is not a valid one.

You talk like a european in europe. But the QOL and standard of life in Asia, (vietnam here) with 2500 USD is FAR FROM BAD. The middle salary there is 200 USD per month. So you earn nearly 13 x the salary of a "normal" worker.

When you go abroad, do not compare with the salary of your own country but you should compare the standard of living in this country. 2500 USD is very good.

Even in europe, (take Wizzair or other LCC) they pay about 2000 euros per month here !! what do you say about that ?

I rather live in asia with 2500USD, than living in Europe with a bit higher but the life here is more expensive !! (clothes, food, cars, insurance etc).

In South Asia, you only need shirts (it's hot) and shorts, and no cars, just a motobike (for 500 usd) etc...and you can enjoy cocktails under the sun.

I do not say the airline is perfect, as I do not know it, but the salary there is more than correct.

so anyway....any inputs from vietjet ?

Thanks

[Greenlights]

What about European LOCOs...easy, ryan, vueling, etc...???

Exactly JGSE...before criticizing others we should look at ourself.

[Luke SkyToddler]

If you've got 1000 hours on A320 and you want to move to Vietnam, why would you apply to Vietjet over Vietnam Airlines? They pay a hell of a lot more than $2500 and they're heavily recruiting right now ...

[Greenlights]

I did for VNA too, but still waiting for a reply and the contract to check it.
So I give a try to vietjet too. I guess I would take the first who accepts me.

I have a friend at VNA, and his roster seems less attractive than Vjc....Maybe I'm wrong ?
oh and VNA base you at Hanoi now for the new pilots. Vietjet can base you at Ho Chi Minh which is more attractive for me. The airport is close to the city. (and more bars, night clubs, hot girls, etc lol I admit it )

[Intruder One]

As far as DEC's.....VNA will now take you past 55.I checked VJA website for apps and it still says 55,is this still true or are they just behind on changing this ???


Any info before I waste time filing it out,got a couple other buddies in the same boat who are interested.

[Black Crow]

Greenlights:

I live and work in SE Asia. You are a fool.

Good luck with your "dream job". Get back to us after 6 months there and tell us how great it is.

BTW, ever wonder why no one renews their contracts? And wonder why these great companies require you to sign a contract to work there?

You'll find out why.

[Black Crow]

GreenLights:

I live and work in SE Asia. You are a fool.

Ever wonder why these airlines require you to sign a binding contract to work for them? Here's a hint, it's not for training cost.

Get back to us after 6 months of living your dream there. You don't have a clue.

[Greenlights]

GreenLights:

I live and work in SE Asia. You are a fool.

Ever wonder why these airlines require you to sign a binding contract to work for them? Here's a hint, it's not for training cost.

Get back to us after 6 months of living your dream there. You don't have a clue.

Instead of insulting maybe you can give inputs ?? you seem to know what you are talking about no ?

I never said it was a dream job anyway.

Funny, then, why are you in SE Asia yourself ? Why don't you change your job or place, is that so complicated ?

oh, maybe I know...let me guess...maybe because you do not have choice like MANY of us uh ? and so you go where you can ?

I just go where I can too, and where my CV is accepted.

I do not know about the airline, and if the contracts are renewed or not. That is why I am here...so instead of talking for nothing or send hints, can't you explain to us how is it ?

[seventhreedriver]

Greenlights:

Here are some inputs:

I lived in VN for 3 and a half years. I loved it, but only because I was not on a 2500USD salary.

A decent accommodation costs around 1000 USD. You can go for cheaper, but if you are not from Asia, I can guarantee you, that you will not even survive 6 months... (cheaper flat: no aircon, noise, pollution, smell, no window, mould on the walls...)

After a while, SGN wears you down. 5 weeks, and you NEED some rest. This includes beach or mountains. A hotel which caters for an expat in VN is expensive (150USD+/night) Guaranteed, you can go cheaper, but than the few days off makes you wish, you were back in SGN (you pay 25 USD for no aircon, noise, garbage everywhere, smell, no service in restaurants, just nervous giggling...)

Food: yes, you can survive on 2USD/day, but in that case, you have no idea, what you eat (think Chinese chemically enchanted rice and beef (made out of pork). If you want a decent meal, that will set you back quite a large sum (from 2500USD). Local food is good, but once in a while, you want something closer to your taste. And that is expensive. In VN, you can pretty much could get whatever you want, but everything has its price.

Flying: fun. I miss that a lot... You learn, how to be legal, efficient and SAFE. But that is up to you. After a few sectors, your survival instincts will kick is.

Do not underestimate the cultural difference. It is truly a shocking experience. At least if you earn a decent salary, you have a reason to stay. If you get 2500 USDs, you will be miserable after the honeymoon period is over.

As I wrote, I loved it there, but the 2500USD difference in salary does not justify staying there. I was working for VNA. I had no problems there, but SGN is not for the faint hearted. I would go as far as saying that in some regards, life in HAN is much easier. VN is magnificent for a holiday, but a nightmare to live there. (of course, there are a few, who would disagree, and I completely understand them as well.)

And I could go on and on...

[Greenlights]

Thanks a lot seventhreedriver.
check your mp

[A320Noobie]

Who on earth would be willing to accept 2500usd a month with 1000h time on type? I think both vna and vietjet pays 6-8k a month for expat fo position. So you shouldnt accept anything else less than that, otherwise you are a fool like someone else already mentioned...

[Cool banana]

I have been looking over some of the posts regarding Vietjet and it all is kind of pointing in a general direction.

1. Cheap
2. Low pay
3. High Attrition rate
4. Not a pleasant Work Environment
5. No Upgrades
6. No Loss of Licence coverage
7. Dreadful penalties contract fees
8. No health Insurance policy
9. Constantly changing roster (Many rostering Violations)
10. Lack of Simulator Training ( only 1 Simulator ever 6months)
11. Stay away

That seems to be one side and I was wondering if anyone could comment about the good things to work at Vietjet.

[Stewsan]

Vietjet for a year

I actually worked at Vietjet for about a year, so this opinion comes from the horses mouth. I also did one and a half years at Cebu Pacific. I enjoyed both places, number one was Cebu but Vietjet was ok also. The reason I left is I received an excellent job offer. So:

I was hired at VJ, over the age of 55, DEC and my pay averaged $13K per month. I stayed in a new 2 bedroom condo ( $850 per mo. ) a stones throw from the airport, which was a big plus from the :45 minute commute in Manila. There are great restaurants that have no problem catering to expats, I found the people for the most part to be very accommodating. The flying was good, no problems with maintenance, the only real headache was the inexperienced FO's who thought, with 500 hrs TT, they were co-Captains and thus argued constantly with the Captains. They bought there way in for $30K USD, and never had proper crew training. The other negative, is the roster. You have no idea what tomorrow brings until maybe 8PM the night before. Want to plan a dinner, only on days off. They will try to take from you but they cannot.

It's a great place to build time, I enjoyed my stay there with the exception of some of the crappy FO's and the roster. I'd go back tomorrow if something happened to my current job as the retirement age has been extended to 65 now, from what I've heard. I'd just put a no fly on a dozen FO's, as many of the Captains have done.

One more point, the training is very short, so after the interview, you'll be on line within a couple weeks, depending on if you have all your paperwork together.

Good luck!

[pilotchute]

Your lack of a Vietnamese passport is probably a good reason why you haven't heard anything.

[Yeah]

Folks, how about 500+ now? I'm 3000tt and 500+ on type but they didn't replay. I got confirmation from Paramount that they received email and will replay but I'm still waiting...