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Just got back from CAN and Zhuhai after completing the CAAC check ride.
There is NO foreseeable additional spots for any 787 positions. Your agencies may be telling you there are but there are not.
The only positions to be filled now are 777 positions all out of CAN base.
They have recruited about 72 out of the 200 total foreign pilots they require.
The only rosters are 45on/15off or a 20on/10off both CAN base.
I started the process in October and only about 3 in my group of 30 made it through with the major killers being the initial sim eval and the medical.
It is indeed a great opportunity for those willing to move or willing to commute (in economy) to CAN.
Progressive and friendly company but it is no longer the advertised foreign based positions originally that drew so many of us.
Cheers
WJP
There is NO foreseeable additional spots for any 787 positions. Your agencies may be telling you there are but there are not.
The only positions to be filled now are 777 positions all out of CAN base.
They have recruited about 72 out of the 200 total foreign pilots they require.
The only rosters are 45on/15off or a 20on/10off both CAN base.
I started the process in October and only about 3 in my group of 30 made it through with the major killers being the initial sim eval and the medical.
It is indeed a great opportunity for those willing to move or willing to commute (in economy) to CAN.
Progressive and friendly company but it is no longer the advertised foreign based positions originally that drew so many of us.
Cheers
WJP
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WJA,
Did they tell you that the foreign bases were not longer going to be planned, or that for now you have to start in CAN?
That would definitely be a deal breaker for many.
How was the CAAC check? Did you pass?
If so, what are you going to do?
Did they make you sign the contract after the check? Any joining dates?
Take care,
737lpa
Did they tell you that the foreign bases were not longer going to be planned, or that for now you have to start in CAN?
That would definitely be a deal breaker for many.
How was the CAAC check? Did you pass?
If so, what are you going to do?
Did they make you sign the contract after the check? Any joining dates?
Take care,
737lpa
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I was told for the Boeing guys the option is the 777 now which is only CAN base.
Airbus guys are still able to do reverse roster out of Australia ( a huge plus)
I even asked about lax and the 777 not happening.
I started the process because of the 787 YVR base - but as mentioned all recruitment for the 787 is on hold for the "foreseeable future" no bases currently exist.
I did pass the CAAC check.
For those of you who did the initial screening ride it's basically exactly the same. SE raw data ILS and lots of emphasis on visual circuits and hand flown NDBs etc... Multiple checklists and Non Norm items.
My agency will be supplying me a contract and the airline asked when could I start.
I will have to look at it all closely but the commute to CAN is not overly attractive.
Airbus guys are still able to do reverse roster out of Australia ( a huge plus)
I even asked about lax and the 777 not happening.
I started the process because of the 787 YVR base - but as mentioned all recruitment for the 787 is on hold for the "foreseeable future" no bases currently exist.
I did pass the CAAC check.
For those of you who did the initial screening ride it's basically exactly the same. SE raw data ILS and lots of emphasis on visual circuits and hand flown NDBs etc... Multiple checklists and Non Norm items.
My agency will be supplying me a contract and the airline asked when could I start.
I will have to look at it all closely but the commute to CAN is not overly attractive.
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I hear you WJA,
Tough choice ahead.
We were always told that the reverse roster would only happen if they gather about 8 CPT's that wanted to be based somewhere where the B777 flies to (AMS, FRA,...)
We'll see what the contract says,...
Good luck my friend!
Tough choice ahead.
We were always told that the reverse roster would only happen if they gather about 8 CPT's that wanted to be based somewhere where the B777 flies to (AMS, FRA,...)
We'll see what the contract says,...
Good luck my friend!
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Don't forget the $22,000 training bond that most agencies require (Parc and Rishworth), definitely a deal breaker for me. Bond contract has no guarantees concerning unsatisfactory sim, medical or general incident deemed unworthy by CSA. Good people and company but NO refunds...
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Seems CSA has invited candidates to CAN in the coming months for screening on the B777. I know there has been some discussion here about the B777 and the foreign bases. Was the carrot dangled about a home base and then subsequently offered CAN. How is this roster for commuting and can CSA reverse schedule you to a home base? I'm sure the B777 is used ULH so possibly the commute to AUS or US possible? Any input from anyone would be helpful for those being screened in the coming months. Cheers.
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About the 20/10 roster pattern, could you add vacation to that in a monthly basis? 10 days off (assuming you will commute on your time is 8 days at home) is just not enough...! How many vacation days, what's the perdiem? Sorry if this was covered already
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Hi Dominican,
I remember you from the ANA forum. I hope you're doing OK on that B767 commuting contract.
From the draft contract that I have, the 20-10 option has 10 days of annual and sick leave combined.
The thing is that, allegedly, if they offer you a besa at home (FRA, AMS, LHR,...), you would not have to commute all the way from Asia to home, but just a short commute from your European / American base to your home, not to mention that in between duties, you will also be at that "base", so you would get extra days at home.
No per diems other than the $13,020 salary for the 20/10 based on 60 hours and over time at $217 per hour after 60. Also a $6,000 bonus per year. That's all.
I hope that helps.
Safe flying!
I remember you from the ANA forum. I hope you're doing OK on that B767 commuting contract.
From the draft contract that I have, the 20-10 option has 10 days of annual and sick leave combined.
The thing is that, allegedly, if they offer you a besa at home (FRA, AMS, LHR,...), you would not have to commute all the way from Asia to home, but just a short commute from your European / American base to your home, not to mention that in between duties, you will also be at that "base", so you would get extra days at home.
No per diems other than the $13,020 salary for the 20/10 based on 60 hours and over time at $217 per hour after 60. Also a $6,000 bonus per year. That's all.
I hope that helps.
Safe flying!
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I dont believe there are any awarded vacation days on the 20/10 rotation.
schedules on the 777 are only issued at 5 days at a time and you seem to be on hot standby when you get back from a rotation - its all a little murky and undefined right now and Im even having some trouble getting some clear answers - the management is however committed to improving things.
You can be sure though that you will be guaranteed your 10days off a month.
cheers
I dont believe there are any awarded vacation days on the 20/10 rotation.
schedules on the 777 are only issued at 5 days at a time and you seem to be on hot standby when you get back from a rotation - its all a little murky and undefined right now and Im even having some trouble getting some clear answers - the management is however committed to improving things.
You can be sure though that you will be guaranteed your 10days off a month.
cheers
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Guys, I am unable to find reliable information as to whether the 320 to 330 CCQ hiring/conversion is actually in place and is/has it worked out for anybody.
It is still widely advertised by our beloved contracting companies, all happy to take my signature and exclusive rights to hire. Unfortunately they are generally the last ones whose information I find accurate.
I'd also like to hear from anybody on the 330 reverse schedule out of SYD or BNE as to general life on the roster.
Anyone know of anything here? Thanks in advance.
PM if you like, much obliged.
It is still widely advertised by our beloved contracting companies, all happy to take my signature and exclusive rights to hire. Unfortunately they are generally the last ones whose information I find accurate.
I'd also like to hear from anybody on the 330 reverse schedule out of SYD or BNE as to general life on the roster.
Anyone know of anything here? Thanks in advance.
PM if you like, much obliged.