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Old 29th Jan 2013, 23:39
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Is Eva actually hiring at the moment? Anyone know how long the process can take after you mail in your resume and all the required forms? I sent mine in a month ago.

I have 2700 total with 900 jet on a CRJ. Lots of global experience doing UN work in Africa, the Middle East and a bit of Europe. Is that actually competitive enough? I know I meet the requirements but there is always the posted requirements and then the "real" requirements to actually make you competitive. Not many option for heavy's anymore in the Great White North and Eva's no TR required is pretty appealing. Taiwan comes off as a cheaper HK to me? Seems like a decent place to live and a decent company to fly for.

Any info appreciated. PM's as well.

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Old 30th Jan 2013, 02:54
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I dont know Trev, I have 3000 hours on MD80-series and not a reply either. Supply and demand?
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Old 30th Jan 2013, 11:38
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CanadianTrev....check your PM
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Old 30th Jan 2013, 12:46
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Hi guys,

I have applied, sent averything a two weeks ago. My experience is 2.500 hours total ATPL licence and 1.500 jet time on Cessna Citation 550. Still no reply, do you think my experience is enough??

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Old 31st Jan 2013, 14:07
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I think you stand a good chance with Eva, just be patient.
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Old 31st Jan 2013, 14:22
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Thank you flying mechanic, let see if they consider my experience valid...
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Old 31st Jan 2013, 16:02
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Maybe Eva will be good experience that you can use to get a job with another airline in a few years, but probably not one that requires you to be type-rated, as I believe you will convert to a Taiwanese licence and get your type rating on that licence - Taiwan is not a member of ICAO so I think you would have a lot of difficulty putting that type rating on any other licence. Therefore if you were looking for a job with another B747 or A330 operator, you would probably have to do a full type rating again for it to be valid. It may be an obstacle when you look for another job, even though the widebody experience will be helpful.

I would also be interested though to hear from anyone who has worked there before and if this caused any problems getting another job (or were you able to put that rating on another licence?). Of course there are quite a few airlines who will take non-rated pilots (e.g. Emirates) but probably more that are only accepting type-rated applicants.
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Old 1st Feb 2013, 09:01
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1500h jet on Citation 550, I don't think that will work for EVA. They probably don't even know what is Citation 550. CRJ or bigger is what counts. But I could be wrong.
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Old 2nd Feb 2013, 01:20
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Many Eva guys have got jobs in Korean/Vietnam/China, the Taiwanese type rating is recognised.
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Old 2nd Feb 2013, 13:08
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Flying Mechanic, have you worked at Eva? Did the people you know who got jobs in those places maybe already have a type rating from a previous job that they used to get the next job after Eva (either the same type they were on at Eva or a different one)?

As examples, I know that if you were on the 747 at Eva and wanted to apply for a job at Nippon Cargo, your 747 rating on your Taiwanese licence wouldn't be accepted - it must be on an ICAO licence. I know this from asking the question to an agency. Also for the Norwegian 787 job, you must have a Boeing type-rating on a European JAA/EASA licence (a bit more specific than an ICAO licence, I know). This is also information I got from an agency handling that contract. However, do you know if the rating could be put on an EASA licence?.. or any other licence for that matter, such as an Australian or FAA licence. You say that the Taiwanese type rating is accepted but I'm interested to know a few specifics if you have them.

So, as far as you know, if you have an A330 rating on a Taiwanese licence, and you applied for a job with Vietnam Airlines through Parc or Rishworth, what is the process? Would you need to transfer the rating to your existing licence or would you convert to a Vietnamese licence and have the type rating put on that licence without any problems? (I'm not sure if in Vietnam you get a validation based on your existing licence or convert to a Vietnamese licence).

This is something that would put me off applying but I don't know how big a problem the non-ICAO issue is.

Thanks for any info.
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Old 2nd Feb 2013, 14:27
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Originally Posted by terd_ferguson View Post
Flying Mechanic, have you worked at Eva? Did the people you know who got jobs in those places maybe already have a type rating from a previous job that they used to get the next job after Eva (either the same type they were on at Eva or a different one)?

As examples, I know that if you were on the 747 at Eva and wanted to apply for a job at Nippon Cargo, your 747 rating on your Taiwanese licence wouldn't be accepted - it must be on an ICAO licence. I know this from asking the question to an agency.
I thought that when it comes to the Japanese carriers, you have to go through the whole private to ATPL thing anyways over about 6 months.
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Old 2nd Feb 2013, 16:06
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I had flown for CAL, so I can tell you that the Taiwanese ATP Lisence is going to be good for transferring the TR depending on the receiving Aviation Authority.

I have an FAA ATPL Lisence and I could transfer the B744 SIC from the Taiwanese ATPL at the FSDO in Anchorage.
You should have to make an appointment and complete a form. As far as I remember the minimum requirements were 500 hrs SIC and a signature from a company TRE.

I tried to do the same in Spain...but it didn't work, but many of my colleagues from Swiss and Portugal did it.

So If you hold an ICAO license you should try to keep it update until the moment you bail out from Taiwan...
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Old 2nd Feb 2013, 19:25
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Yes I am x Eva.

Many Eva pilots got jobs at Korean / Vietnam, and there Taiwanese atpls were validated.

I know of one Eva pilot who got the 777 onto his jar Atpl.
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Old 2nd Feb 2013, 21:41
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JammedStab - yes you do have to do the Japanese ATPL exams and convert to a Japanese licence and it would take at least 6 months as far as I know. But to be taken on for a contract with them through an agency, you need an ICAO licence with the 747 type rating on that licence, so my point was a 747 type rating gained at Eva would not qualify you to apply. NCA was just an example that, as far as I know, Eva will limit your options. That's not to say you won't be able to move on - just that you will have less options than you would if you had that type rating on an ICAO licence. As far as transferring the type rating to an EASA or other licence by doing an LPC etc, I haven't fully researched it but I think for any prospective applicant it is worth speaking to the relevant authority (depending which licence you hold) to find out if you would be able to put that rating on your existing licence.

As cosmiccomet said... ["I tried to do the same in Spain...but it didn't work, but many of my colleagues from Swiss and Portugal did it.

So If you hold an ICAO license you should try to keep it update until the moment you bail out from Taiwan..."]... it sounds like a bit of a gamble so it is worth finding out first what your situation is with regard to transferring the type rating. An EASA (rather than a JAA licence) is valid for life, so that would remain valid. A JAA licence is valid for 5 years I think. If it's a new type rating you get at Eva, that wouldn't be on your existing licence anyway so the only considerations are if you can transfer it to your existing licence and which countries/airlines will accept your type rating from Taiwan if you are applying for a job as a type rated pilot with them.

For any Eva pilots, I have a couple more questions:
- I read from another post that if you call in sick then your days off are reduced for that month by the number of sick days you take. Is that true? If so, that alone would be a deal breaker for me - not because I want to call in sick.

- What is this pilot dorm people talk about. Do all Eva pilots live there or is it a choice of the dorm accommodation for free or pay for your own place? I imagine the company accommodation would appeal only to commuters. Is there a choice of either a commuting roster or a roster for people who live in Taiwan? Is the commuting roster 8 consecutive days off per month?

- Can the company change your days off after roster publication?

- Are the 747s being phased out or will they be kept for the foreseeable future?

- Is there a chance of changing fleet after a few years there? Maybe 777?

- What is it like flying there as an expat? What is the initial and recurrent training like, is the training department made up of locals and expats, company culture, are the locals nice to fly with, is it a professional environment, good maintenance etc?

Thanks for any input. It seems to be quite hard to get much up to date info.
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Old 3rd Feb 2013, 03:48
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If you call in sick you will not loose your days off.

You can commute and live in the Dorm, and the Dorm is ok, u have your own room, so make it quite homely. If your a330, you will spend a lot of time there, if your 747 , you won't see it too much. You don't have to commute, the company will help with a apartment rental and they you have a normal roster, and almost a normal life!

I think 747's will be around for at least 5 years, will be the backbone of the freighter fleet as the MD11 finally get phased out.

If you stick around at Eva a fleet change might come your way.

When you interview with Eva, u spend 5 days there, it's a good way for you to check out the company and lifestyle. Go to Ralph's cafe and chat with existing crew, the best way to see if the Eva life is what you want.

I did 3 years at Eva, and enjoyed my time there.
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Old 3rd Feb 2013, 09:06
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I thought that when it comes to the Japanese carriers, you have to go through the whole private to ATPL thing anyways over about 6 months.
Not exactly, the reason it is only six months is because they will credit many items on the curriculum based on your existing ICAO license.

Not sure about the NCA info not accepting Type ratings from Taiwan, but we do have a few guys here at AJX that came from EVA and many others from China Airlines

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Old 3rd Feb 2013, 11:19
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Dominican, I think the reason is purely because NCA are only taking 747 type-rated guys whereas AJX will take non-rated and provide the 767 type rating. Therefore if you joined Eva and already had the type rating on your existing licence (either 747 or A330), you would have less of an issue moving on for a type-rated job as long as you kept the rating current on your ICAO licence with an LPC before you left Eva and at least as often as required to keep it valid on hour ICAO licence e.g. every 3-5 years depending on the licencing authority.

However, I peronally haven't looked into whether it's possible to transfer a type rating from a Taiwanese licence onto my own licence. As previous posters have said, it seems it may be possible, but not on every type of licence.
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Old 3rd Feb 2013, 11:43
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.. And does anyone have an answer/opinion on this question:
- What is it like flying there as an expat? What is the initial and recurrent training like, is the training department made up of locals and expats, company culture, are the locals nice to fly with, is it a professional environment, good maintenance etc?

Flying Mechanic, it was post 32 from this link (not PPRuNe) that I read about days off being reduced for being sick:
EVA Airways - Page 4 - Airline Pilot Central Forums

Of course forums aren't official but maybe they have changed the contract slightly. Maybe it only affects commuters with their 8 block days off being reduced if they have a few days off sick.

The annual leave is pretty poor too.
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Old 3rd Feb 2013, 12:09
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At my time at eva never heard of anyone losing days off. Some people got sick on there days off, doctors not always fixed that.

When I was at eva, most trainers were local , like another other company just study hard and you will pass. Locals are good to fly with and professional , maintenance is top notch to, very high standards. You join eva, you quickly learn the Taiwenese way, and gets on with it. My sim partner was a yank, didn't like the Taiwanese culture and bailed after a few months.

I left in 2009 , so there might of been a few changes. Like i said, take the interview , it's a 5 days free holiday, if you don't like it, don't take the job.
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Old 3rd Feb 2013, 14:16
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Thanks for the info. It's appreciated.
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