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Old 14th Feb 2012, 12:00
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Why would you go to SZA?

I agree with Heathen and Oceanic. The working environment has been going dramatically downhill for the last few months. I don't know of a single Airbus guy who ISN'T looking to get out.

As Oceanic said, who knows if other Chinese airlines are any better from a QWL standpoint. But, since it sucks here, why not go where you'll make more money. SZA also continues to try to adjust to BELOW the market, never at or above.

The lastest "management" initiatives are the last straw for many of us.

SZA has outright REFUSED to address QWL issues. After all, the Chinese pilots don't complain!!!!

Frustrated in SZ.
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Old 15th Feb 2012, 21:09
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...be subjected to random and ridiculous check rides...
You mean like: SOP check rides, landing "training" (READ: checkride), and now CRM check rides?? all on top of the normal bi-annual harrassment rides...

The working environment has been going dramatically downhill for the last few months...
Rules that I understand are already in use now:

1- If you have an altitude bust, you are FIRED.
2- If you have a lighting strike, you are FIRED.
3- If you have a bird strike, you are FIRED.
4- If you have a hard landing, you are FIRED.
5- If you have a loss of communications, you are FIRED.

and now Shenzhen Airlines management is directly asking the Chinese first officers for reports about captains that they don't like?? (these poor guys have been airline pilots now for maybe 2+ years and have between 500-2500 hours AND you are in THEIR captain seat, what are the chances that they would do their best to sink your battle ship with a few bad reports????)
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Old 16th Feb 2012, 01:04
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u3k bus driver, you just beat me to it.
I was about to post the same, when i lost my internet connection, bugger.

The new rules come into effect on March 1st and are mostly CAAC driven.

Simply put, there is no job security here (in China) anymore...
Evidently, from the recent management “safety” meeting, the foreign pilot group make 3 to 4 times as many mistakes as the Chinese……give me a break.

Rumour has it that the new contract will see the Bus drivers earn US$14500/m and the commuters around US$11600/m, haven’t heard anything about the Boeing guys but my guess will be that they’ll take a “wait and see” approach pending the number of people signing up during the Wasinc roadshow.
SZX will never meet the market as their flawed belief living in Shenzhen is worth the money they pay.

Still, with a “commuter” schedule of 70/20 compared to many other airlines offering 6/2 and 6/3 etc, I wonder if the privilege of living in Shenzhen will still be worth it.

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Old 16th Feb 2012, 06:31
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SZA

Dont forget about being able to get fired for taking the wrong taxiway. Using an Ipod or Ipad, so many things. This job used to be fun, now it really sucks. I cannot express how it feels to know that any FO you fly with has the potential to write a report that can get u fired.
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Old 18th Feb 2012, 18:13
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Ermm by the way ON FINAL dont you have a vested interest in getting guys to China
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Old 20th Feb 2012, 01:37
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Business Aviation Asia

Hello All,

I am attending the MIA job fair and was recently contacted by a recruiter who told me i qualify for a non-type rated fo position at Business Aviation Asia. I looked on other message boards but cannot find any information on this outfit.

Does anyone have an information on this operation ? Good ? Bad? What about ex-pat lifestyle in China ? Commutability ? Pay ?

Also, how should i prepare for their technical, HR, and simulator eval ? I am not typed in any of the planes they are interviewing for and when i spoke to the recruiter he did not know what plane the sim check would be in.

If anyone could PM me with some insight it would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you
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