SIA CARGO R/W Excursion
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SIA CARGO R/W Excursion
The Channel NEWSASIA reported as follows:
According to a statement by Changi Airport Group, the aircraft veered off the runway after landing around 4.40pm.
Anyone heard of further details.. Very2 quiet I noticed.
According to a statement by Changi Airport Group, the aircraft veered off the runway after landing around 4.40pm.
Anyone heard of further details.. Very2 quiet I noticed.
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There's always something going down at Singas - if it isn't BA
blowing tyres or SIA going off the runway or somebody with
stuck brakes its some other bloody thing. Maybe its just been
my bad luck being rostered to SIN every time **** happens.
Thankfully these days I don't go there much anymore, but if
and when I do I always carry extra for those sudden runway
closures on top of everything else (wx/traffic holding etc). For
dep I usually triple the normal taxi fuel for those times when
I estimate ATC will refuse to tell me the pecking order for TO
just before pushback.
blowing tyres or SIA going off the runway or somebody with
stuck brakes its some other bloody thing. Maybe its just been
my bad luck being rostered to SIN every time **** happens.
Thankfully these days I don't go there much anymore, but if
and when I do I always carry extra for those sudden runway
closures on top of everything else (wx/traffic holding etc). For
dep I usually triple the normal taxi fuel for those times when
I estimate ATC will refuse to tell me the pecking order for TO
just before pushback.
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well well
So another one.
Now it would be interesting to see if its an " Expat Hero" or a Local Boy.- But hey heres a thought......- 95 % of the SQC pilots are Expats.
Any Comments Cargo jock?-
Now it would be interesting to see if its an " Expat Hero" or a Local Boy.- But hey heres a thought......- 95 % of the SQC pilots are Expats.
Any Comments Cargo jock?-
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I estimate ATC will refuse to tell me the pecking order for TO
just before pushback.
just before pushback.
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Singapore runways are long & wide. The weather then did not seem like it is minima conditions. Wonder if there is something we can learn from what happened...?
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No its not that para - "No PDC" departure procedures covers
that AFAIK. Its that 1 out of 10 where you turn onto say WP
and see the numbers ahead of you for 20R, and told you're
#15 for TO (ten for 20R and five others for 20C).
I wouldn't complain if SIN had gatehold procedures similar to
what I've encountered in the States - better to just sit there
and read the paper over a coffee while waiting and burn APU
fuel (or ramp connect), rather than with all engines running.
that AFAIK. Its that 1 out of 10 where you turn onto say WP
and see the numbers ahead of you for 20R, and told you're
#15 for TO (ten for 20R and five others for 20C).
I wouldn't complain if SIN had gatehold procedures similar to
what I've encountered in the States - better to just sit there
and read the paper over a coffee while waiting and burn APU
fuel (or ramp connect), rather than with all engines running.
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Hmm, have you guys never heard of aircraft parts/systems malfunctions?
At least i have. Anything can happen out there you know that. The flight is not over until you are parked and shut down.
Regarding whos sitting in the front row, well no one wants to weer of the RWY or screw up if you say, does not matter witch nationality thats up front.
One has to assume that the two guys up front is checked out and ready for the job.
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At least i have. Anything can happen out there you know that. The flight is not over until you are parked and shut down.
Regarding whos sitting in the front row, well no one wants to weer of the RWY or screw up if you say, does not matter witch nationality thats up front.
One has to assume that the two guys up front is checked out and ready for the job.
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Slasher,
In my 30 plus years of having come into singapore on a wide body i have NEVER BEEN 'number 15' in departure sequence. And even when i have been close to those numbers, i have never been delayed by more than 3-4 mins max!
I have only the best of comments and reservations when it comes to ATC singapore. A thoroughly professional lot.
Not removing anything from the fella who wanted to wipe his landing gear clean on the grassy patch of the golfing greens though ...
In my 30 plus years of having come into singapore on a wide body i have NEVER BEEN 'number 15' in departure sequence. And even when i have been close to those numbers, i have never been delayed by more than 3-4 mins max!
I have only the best of comments and reservations when it comes to ATC singapore. A thoroughly professional lot.
Not removing anything from the fella who wanted to wipe his landing gear clean on the grassy patch of the golfing greens though ...
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...i have NEVER BEEN 'number 15'...
...i have never been delayed by more than 3-4 mins max!
...i have never been delayed by more than 3-4 mins max!
in the first paragraph of my first post AGAIN.
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We had just started descent when told 30 mins holding due runway closure. not much info coming from ATC, probably wasn't much to pass on until the a/c was clear and requirements assessed.
Jahore filled up quick with SQ diversions and Batam became the flavour of the arvo, company fuel would have seen us there.
Landed 55 mins after initial prediction, still legal.
Pavement dry when we landed and history winds were not above 3 kts, base above 8000ft, no TS on TAF.
Interested to know the details when released, great day 1 for line training, just like a sim session except no break for coffee!
Jahore filled up quick with SQ diversions and Batam became the flavour of the arvo, company fuel would have seen us there.
Landed 55 mins after initial prediction, still legal.
Pavement dry when we landed and history winds were not above 3 kts, base above 8000ft, no TS on TAF.
Interested to know the details when released, great day 1 for line training, just like a sim session except no break for coffee!
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This incident, happened at their home base, shows the level of inexperience among SIAC pilots.
It is not new that the management, safety and training departments at SIAC are composed with a curious mix of nationalities and different experience background, not a good combination. The blaming game has started and heads will roll, not R.L. for sure.
With the increasing numbers of new and inexperienced pilots on the left seat, we can expect reading more negative news about SIAC.
Good luck
It is not new that the management, safety and training departments at SIAC are composed with a curious mix of nationalities and different experience background, not a good combination. The blaming game has started and heads will roll, not R.L. for sure.
With the increasing numbers of new and inexperienced pilots on the left seat, we can expect reading more negative news about SIAC.
Good luck
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This incident, happened at their home base, shows the level of inexperience among SIAC pilots.
With the increasing numbers of new and inexperienced pilots on the left seat,
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This incident, happened at their home base, shows the level of inexperience among SIAC pilots.
It is not new that the management, safety and training departments at SIAC are composed with a curious mix of nationalities and different experience background, not a good combination.
The blaming game has started and heads will roll, not R.L. for sure.
With the increasing numbers of new and inexperienced pilots on the left seat, we can expect reading more negative news about SIAC.
Funny