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Don't waste your time and money on SKYMARK
I have been doing a little research on this company.
SKYMARK aka SKIDMARK redefines : " cheap scumbags " they will treat you like diesel fuel... ( that would explain the large amount of skippers bailing ship in recent months)
DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME AND MONEY on the interview.
Last round , out of over 25 qualified to over qualified captains more than 20 were turned down - from all agencies - no explanation given.
out of the few who were offered employment at least one is turning the offer down.
They couldn't care less with the cost of your travel to the interview - they don't pay for it . they don't invest on the simulator assessments as those are only few minutes long.
I would strongly advise to avoid this airline.
SKYMARK aka SKIDMARK redefines : " cheap scumbags " they will treat you like diesel fuel... ( that would explain the large amount of skippers bailing ship in recent months)
DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME AND MONEY on the interview.
Last round , out of over 25 qualified to over qualified captains more than 20 were turned down - from all agencies - no explanation given.
out of the few who were offered employment at least one is turning the offer down.
They couldn't care less with the cost of your travel to the interview - they don't pay for it . they don't invest on the simulator assessments as those are only few minutes long.
I would strongly advise to avoid this airline.
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More than a little research required
I was non-type rated and do not feel like diesel fuel but yes, I do have pulse....
Biggest part of working in Japan is the 7-8 mths of training to pass the JCAB checks. Even if "qualified or over qualified" if the company does not think you can do that,then why offer employment? Thats the idea of an interview surely?
Its not just basic flying skills, but also ability to listen,do what's required and not think you know everything ,having a "this is how I do it" attitude.
Passing the Initial JCAB medical is hard so am not surprised it may become a pre-requisite, as it is at most other Japanese airlines.
As to offering interviews to anyone. I see they have raised their requirements.
At least Skymark is being selective, if you want to work for airlines that "offer a job" to anyone with a pulse, then China is calling. I for one would much rather be in Japan than China any day.And to make it clear,I have worked in China.
Biggest part of working in Japan is the 7-8 mths of training to pass the JCAB checks. Even if "qualified or over qualified" if the company does not think you can do that,then why offer employment? Thats the idea of an interview surely?
Its not just basic flying skills, but also ability to listen,do what's required and not think you know everything ,having a "this is how I do it" attitude.
Passing the Initial JCAB medical is hard so am not surprised it may become a pre-requisite, as it is at most other Japanese airlines.
As to offering interviews to anyone. I see they have raised their requirements.
At least Skymark is being selective, if you want to work for airlines that "offer a job" to anyone with a pulse, then China is calling. I for one would much rather be in Japan than China any day.And to make it clear,I have worked in China.
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"if you want to work for airlines that "offer a job" to anyone with a pulse, then China is calling. I for one would much rather be in Japan than China any day."
Obviously you haven't been through a Chinese Interview and selection process as your ignorance is apparent. China vs. Japan is to each his/her own but China offers many contracts superior to Japan. You have to come and experience it to appreciate it but I have lived/worked in both places and each place has unique things to offer. The Chinese selection process is also hard and less than 50% make it through the myriad of hoops to jump through here. Medicals in China are difficult though not as extensive as Japan.
Obviously you haven't been through a Chinese Interview and selection process as your ignorance is apparent. China vs. Japan is to each his/her own but China offers many contracts superior to Japan. You have to come and experience it to appreciate it but I have lived/worked in both places and each place has unique things to offer. The Chinese selection process is also hard and less than 50% make it through the myriad of hoops to jump through here. Medicals in China are difficult though not as extensive as Japan.
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I am in no position to speak of working in China. I can only repeat what has been told to me from friends who have worked there. And none of it is positive. Infact there seems to be a common theme. And that is, prepare to get f'ed.
I had my travel to Tokyo for the interview paid upfront. Everyone in my class had theirs paid too. I have no complaints as of yet. Other than my $2300 per diem paid a week late. I was told it was a mistake due to golden week. The training has been top- notch. The pay is good..ontime except for this hiccup. And I have been treated lightyears ahead of my previous japanese carrier. I will be the first to raise the bs flag when itneeds to be raised...but I havent seen a reason yet. People who know me, know that I am not afraid to speak up if theres something awry. I havent seen it yet.
I had my travel to Tokyo for the interview paid upfront. Everyone in my class had theirs paid too. I have no complaints as of yet. Other than my $2300 per diem paid a week late. I was told it was a mistake due to golden week. The training has been top- notch. The pay is good..ontime except for this hiccup. And I have been treated lightyears ahead of my previous japanese carrier. I will be the first to raise the bs flag when itneeds to be raised...but I havent seen a reason yet. People who know me, know that I am not afraid to speak up if theres something awry. I havent seen it yet.
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on the contrary mate
Not only have I been through an interview in China but the fact is that I completed two contract terms there.
I did not apply with Skidmark but recommended it based on adverts that I ran across to a friend who went through their B.S of a selection process: 3 minutes interview and a 10 minutes simulator assessment.
This is the first time In my entire 30 years of airline flying that I hear of such a selection process.
In addition ,I believe that what was said in this thread with regard to Skidmark paying for travel to the interview and simulator evaluation upfront just proves my point , this is the way to go and I am more than certain that the percentage of pilots who were selected was much greater than that of the previous run. ( 2 or 3 pilots out of 25 or so)
Why ? because Skidmark has invested in the process vs what they do these days and that is inviting a mass of pilots who have to pay for this fiasco themselves .
How many pilots do you think would embark on such an adventure if they knew that this is the ratio between those who are selected and those who are not ?
So I stand by my recommendation : do not spend / waste your time and money on a Skidmark interview , if they will pay for it than sure , by all means give it a go.
I also stand by my other statement that Skidmark redefine cheap !
An airline that is too cheap to pay for pilot's uniform and have their pilots fly passengers in whatever attire they choose...? what ever happen to pride in this profession ?
and lastly , even if flying in China was such a bad deal , two wrongs don't make a right...
At least in China the pay is greater , more appropriate and inline with the industry .
I did not apply with Skidmark but recommended it based on adverts that I ran across to a friend who went through their B.S of a selection process: 3 minutes interview and a 10 minutes simulator assessment.
This is the first time In my entire 30 years of airline flying that I hear of such a selection process.
In addition ,I believe that what was said in this thread with regard to Skidmark paying for travel to the interview and simulator evaluation upfront just proves my point , this is the way to go and I am more than certain that the percentage of pilots who were selected was much greater than that of the previous run. ( 2 or 3 pilots out of 25 or so)
Why ? because Skidmark has invested in the process vs what they do these days and that is inviting a mass of pilots who have to pay for this fiasco themselves .
How many pilots do you think would embark on such an adventure if they knew that this is the ratio between those who are selected and those who are not ?
So I stand by my recommendation : do not spend / waste your time and money on a Skidmark interview , if they will pay for it than sure , by all means give it a go.
I also stand by my other statement that Skidmark redefine cheap !
An airline that is too cheap to pay for pilot's uniform and have their pilots fly passengers in whatever attire they choose...? what ever happen to pride in this profession ?
and lastly , even if flying in China was such a bad deal , two wrongs don't make a right...
At least in China the pay is greater , more appropriate and inline with the industry .
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Yep you are 100% right.. this place is much worse than any contract in China. This is really a miserable place to be. As soon as that Walmart position opens up back home I'm outta here!
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Give it a go
Maybe they want people who have done their research and looked into what is required and the lifestyle they will have as a contract pilot in Japan. So anyone that just comes along to "give it ago" may not be the right person. Thats the idea of these forums, to pass on information,usually from people who have least done the process or are working/have worked for the company. Luckily most pilots will read the forums and make their own intelligent decision, hopefully on the correct information. So:
Non-type rated pilots currently in training.
Do not have to be Japanese to upgrade to Airbus (at this stage anyway)
Uniform is Skymark polo shirt,windbreaker jacket,cap.
Skymark now has in house checkers so the random 6mth JCAB checks are no longer,you still have to do initial type rating and route check with JCAB, as with any Japanese airline.
The pay is what it is,paid on time(usually) and may be less than China, but there is always a reason for that and I standby my statement that "I would rather be in Japan than China any day"
Skymark is a LCC and Air Asia/Jetstar and other LCC's all require u to pay for airfare to interview. Your choice to do that or not.
Also as a new ppruner, with 30 yrs experience at age 37, makes one wonder what your motive is for your posts.
Non-type rated pilots currently in training.
Do not have to be Japanese to upgrade to Airbus (at this stage anyway)
Uniform is Skymark polo shirt,windbreaker jacket,cap.
Skymark now has in house checkers so the random 6mth JCAB checks are no longer,you still have to do initial type rating and route check with JCAB, as with any Japanese airline.
The pay is what it is,paid on time(usually) and may be less than China, but there is always a reason for that and I standby my statement that "I would rather be in Japan than China any day"
Skymark is a LCC and Air Asia/Jetstar and other LCC's all require u to pay for airfare to interview. Your choice to do that or not.
Also as a new ppruner, with 30 yrs experience at age 37, makes one wonder what your motive is for your posts.
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Yep thats what I was thinking. Obviously has an ax to grind. Has never worked/ interviewed at Skymark yet thinks he knows about the job. Fortunately prospective pilots will be able to see through his agenda and make an educated decision based on all the other FACTUAL posts. Too bad pprune can't filter out tools.
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If flying doesn't work for you a detectice job is waiting
" Maybe they want people who have done their research and looked into what is required and the lifestyle they will have as a contract pilot in Japan. So anyone that just comes along to "give it ago" may not be the right person. Thats the idea of these forums, to pass on information,usually from people who have least done the process or are working/have worked for the company. Luckily most pilots will read the forums and make their own intelligent decision, hopefully on the correct information. So:
Non-type rated pilots currently in training. "
YOU ARE REFERRING TO THE PAST AND I AM REFERRING TO THE PRESENT.
THERE MAYBE FEW NON TYPE RATED PILOTS IN TRAINING AT THIS TIME AND I BELIEVE 1-5 WAS THE RATIO " ESPRIT" HAS INDICATED ?
Do not have to be Japanese to upgrade to Airbus (at this stage anyway)
THIS YOU DO NOT REALLY KNOW , RIGHT ?
Uniform is Skymark polo shirt,windbreaker jacket,cap.
CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG BUT YOU ONLY HAVE TO CHOOSE ONE OF THESE ITEMS AND THE REST IS UP TO YOU ?
THE CAP IS A BASEBALL TYPE OF CAP AM I CORRECT ?
DO YOU REALLY CALL THESE UNIFORM ?
DO YOU KNOW OF OTHER AIRLINES ANYWHERE ON THE PLANET WITH UNIFORM LIKE THAT ?
Skymark now has in house checkers so the random 6mth JCAB checks are no longer,you still have to do initial type rating and route check with JCAB, as with any Japanese airline.
The pay is what it is,paid on time(usually) and may be less than China, but there is always a reason for that and I standby my statement that "I would rather be in Japan than China any day"
WHAT IS THE REASON THAN SKIDMARK IS THE LOWEST PAY AIRLINES IN ASIA? ( CHEAP COME TO MIND? )
Skymark is a LCC and Air Asia/Jetstar and other LCC's all require u to pay for airfare to interview. Your choice to do that or not.
NOT TOO SURE ABOUT JETSTAR .
Also as a new ppruner, with 30 yrs experience at age 37, makes one wonder what your motive is for your posts.
MY AGE IS 57 IF YOU MUST KNOW AND I DON'T FEEL THAT MY BIRTH DATE IS RELEVANT TO ANY PUBLIC FORUM
IT DOESN'T REALLY SAY "work to live" OR " esprit " IN YOUR BIRTH CERTIFICATES NOW DOES IT ?
I BELIEVE I CLEARLY INDICATED THE MOTIVE OF MY POST AND THAT IS TO SHARE INFORMATION AND WARN FELLOW PILOTS FROM WHAT IS A HEAD WHEN CHOOSING TO EMBARK ON A SKIDMARK ADVENTURE .
I ALSO INDICATED IN MY INITIAL POST THAT WHAT i AM WRITING IS WHAT I HEAR AND I AM GLAD THAT SOME OF THE FACTS ARE BEING DISPUTED WHILST SOME ARE CONFIRMED.
AGAIN , MY INFORMATION IS RELEVANT TO RECENT TIMES AND NOT TO THE PAST WHERE THINGS MAY HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT
JUST AS AN EXAMPLE SKIDMARK WOULD PAY UPFRONT FOR YOUR JOURNEY TO AND FROM THE INTERVIEW.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS : GIVEN THE PRESENT SELECTION PROCESS . TRAINING AND THE REST OF THE WHOLE PACKAGE
WOULD YOU RECOMMEND IT TO A MATE ? A NON RATED PILOT ?
Non-type rated pilots currently in training. "
YOU ARE REFERRING TO THE PAST AND I AM REFERRING TO THE PRESENT.
THERE MAYBE FEW NON TYPE RATED PILOTS IN TRAINING AT THIS TIME AND I BELIEVE 1-5 WAS THE RATIO " ESPRIT" HAS INDICATED ?
Do not have to be Japanese to upgrade to Airbus (at this stage anyway)
THIS YOU DO NOT REALLY KNOW , RIGHT ?
Uniform is Skymark polo shirt,windbreaker jacket,cap.
CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG BUT YOU ONLY HAVE TO CHOOSE ONE OF THESE ITEMS AND THE REST IS UP TO YOU ?
THE CAP IS A BASEBALL TYPE OF CAP AM I CORRECT ?
DO YOU REALLY CALL THESE UNIFORM ?
DO YOU KNOW OF OTHER AIRLINES ANYWHERE ON THE PLANET WITH UNIFORM LIKE THAT ?
Skymark now has in house checkers so the random 6mth JCAB checks are no longer,you still have to do initial type rating and route check with JCAB, as with any Japanese airline.
The pay is what it is,paid on time(usually) and may be less than China, but there is always a reason for that and I standby my statement that "I would rather be in Japan than China any day"
WHAT IS THE REASON THAN SKIDMARK IS THE LOWEST PAY AIRLINES IN ASIA? ( CHEAP COME TO MIND? )
Skymark is a LCC and Air Asia/Jetstar and other LCC's all require u to pay for airfare to interview. Your choice to do that or not.
NOT TOO SURE ABOUT JETSTAR .
Also as a new ppruner, with 30 yrs experience at age 37, makes one wonder what your motive is for your posts.
MY AGE IS 57 IF YOU MUST KNOW AND I DON'T FEEL THAT MY BIRTH DATE IS RELEVANT TO ANY PUBLIC FORUM
IT DOESN'T REALLY SAY "work to live" OR " esprit " IN YOUR BIRTH CERTIFICATES NOW DOES IT ?
I BELIEVE I CLEARLY INDICATED THE MOTIVE OF MY POST AND THAT IS TO SHARE INFORMATION AND WARN FELLOW PILOTS FROM WHAT IS A HEAD WHEN CHOOSING TO EMBARK ON A SKIDMARK ADVENTURE .
I ALSO INDICATED IN MY INITIAL POST THAT WHAT i AM WRITING IS WHAT I HEAR AND I AM GLAD THAT SOME OF THE FACTS ARE BEING DISPUTED WHILST SOME ARE CONFIRMED.
AGAIN , MY INFORMATION IS RELEVANT TO RECENT TIMES AND NOT TO THE PAST WHERE THINGS MAY HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT
JUST AS AN EXAMPLE SKIDMARK WOULD PAY UPFRONT FOR YOUR JOURNEY TO AND FROM THE INTERVIEW.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS : GIVEN THE PRESENT SELECTION PROCESS . TRAINING AND THE REST OF THE WHOLE PACKAGE
WOULD YOU RECOMMEND IT TO A MATE ? A NON RATED PILOT ?
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Hi all of you
The reason that Skymark do not have uniform is not because they can t afford it
Until 4 years ago all pilots were going to work (in uniform) by taxi paid by Skymark
At that time Skymark were operating around 10 to 12 Aircrafts (around 80 pilots)
The cost of taxi were about $50 to $120 US for each pilots (depending of were they lived)
As the Cie grow (they were planning more than 25 Aircrafts) the CEO decided to stop this in order to save around $2,000,000 US per year
So the pilots told the Cie that they were not interested to travel by bus, subway, monorail while being dressed in uniform and carrying flying bag plus overnight bag
So the CEO came up with this Skywear clothes and provided full library in each aircrafts so we did not have to carry a flight bag, and most of the pilots were happy to wear jeans, nike shoe, and carry only a backpack to work
Passengers d ont really care. They want to fly modern aircrafts, well maintained, on time departure and safe
When you say that Skymark is the worst contract in Asia I thing you are wrong
If you add up the salary, per diem, ticket every month, apartment, and your Japanese income tax all paid by Skymark it is around $20000 US a month
All training, accommodation, salary, per diem, are paid by Skymark from day one
It is not the best contract, but it is not the worst either and for those who are looking for a commuting contract it is fine. People are polite, nice, honest and as far you do your job properly you w ont have any problems
And in a few months with the Cie Checker the life will be easier for every one of my friends who are still working there
The reason that Skymark do not have uniform is not because they can t afford it
Until 4 years ago all pilots were going to work (in uniform) by taxi paid by Skymark
At that time Skymark were operating around 10 to 12 Aircrafts (around 80 pilots)
The cost of taxi were about $50 to $120 US for each pilots (depending of were they lived)
As the Cie grow (they were planning more than 25 Aircrafts) the CEO decided to stop this in order to save around $2,000,000 US per year
So the pilots told the Cie that they were not interested to travel by bus, subway, monorail while being dressed in uniform and carrying flying bag plus overnight bag
So the CEO came up with this Skywear clothes and provided full library in each aircrafts so we did not have to carry a flight bag, and most of the pilots were happy to wear jeans, nike shoe, and carry only a backpack to work
Passengers d ont really care. They want to fly modern aircrafts, well maintained, on time departure and safe
When you say that Skymark is the worst contract in Asia I thing you are wrong
If you add up the salary, per diem, ticket every month, apartment, and your Japanese income tax all paid by Skymark it is around $20000 US a month
All training, accommodation, salary, per diem, are paid by Skymark from day one
It is not the best contract, but it is not the worst either and for those who are looking for a commuting contract it is fine. People are polite, nice, honest and as far you do your job properly you w ont have any problems
And in a few months with the Cie Checker the life will be easier for every one of my friends who are still working there
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How refreshing to view a post from someone that has real knowledge about an operation, versus worthless hear say, I wish people would just shut their pie hole unless they have real personal experience.
Cheers, DL
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A most interesting thread, a few observations and facts:
- a few years ago the brainstrust then in control of recruiting decided no interviews required or assessments, I believe especially in relation to some European applicants; although the wisdom was questioned the attitude prevailed, TTBOMHK some may have arrived...but none got cleared;
- they are presently going through a LONG process of getting in-house C&T, allegedly 2 Sky checkers per month assessed by JCAB, some of these Sky checkers are approaching 65 so will have to be replaced in the immediate future AND if you're naive enough to believe there won't be a few problems along the way to slow down implementation a little (maybe a lot) then you are being a bit Forrest Gumpy.
The final kicker: NOT saying JCAB have any figure required to fail/have problems during recurrent SIM/LINE checks however people do fail, rightly or wrongly.
There is NO WAY ON THIS EARTH that Sky failures could go from X% (JCAB) to 0% (Sky in house C&T) overnight. Eventually YES will be better (or slightly less stressful depending on the CKR involved) however, as always, there can be NO GAIN without PAIN!!! (also make the JCAB look bad, can't have that!)
- upgrades...
Lots of talk - anyone who believes a contract agency that there are "assured" upgrades is indeed a very, very trusting individual.
Unknown is the number of Japanese Captains who are still arriving, how many (if any) achieve positions of authority and who could possibly change the direction of the company (maybe better, maybe worse).
Invitations issued can be withdrawn, ignored or altered ESPECIALLY by old, esteemed Japanese Captains in new management positions....maybe!
- of the uniform the cap is the ONLY required constant (strangely though most seem to find the wind too strong on walkarounds so do not wear the cap for safety reasons - miraculously on checkrides the wind always appears pretty calm!)
Either the polo shirt OR the windbreaker, one must be visible on the FD.
Totally a power/control game between Sky management and JCAB, apparently loads are ok or improved so maybe the plebs don't mind someone taking on the life-usurping bureaucracy that dominates Japan?? Just wondering.
As a final:any "uniform" Vs "pay arriving on time" aggro...give me pay every time, not perfect but pretty consistent;
- pay, greatest benefit can be that TAX liability is clearly laid out as opposed to some other countries - and all contract companies comply, EOFS.
How that translates to individuals is up to them to work out - tax in other countries/contracts can be less "clear" probably to the advantage of the contract company and the airline, would doubt any advantage to the contract pilot (just me being cynical no doubt!);
- "Skymark need 200 pilots..." apparently an early statement by Sky, IF it is finally realised the initial statement was incorrect it will NEVER BE CORRECTED: not the Japanese way.
It is possible the last lot going through were all aces of the bases - all complete knuckledraggers - or somewhere in between.
Wouldn't matter - slow down acceptance rate...but not loose face about number of pilots required.
Possibility...maybe yes...maybe no...maybe maybe...
- whomever it was "...training great..." oh please! the classroom "training" is still classic rote (is it not??), hopefully a few things of sense and practicality have slipped into later training.
Cheers all
galdian
- a few years ago the brainstrust then in control of recruiting decided no interviews required or assessments, I believe especially in relation to some European applicants; although the wisdom was questioned the attitude prevailed, TTBOMHK some may have arrived...but none got cleared;
- they are presently going through a LONG process of getting in-house C&T, allegedly 2 Sky checkers per month assessed by JCAB, some of these Sky checkers are approaching 65 so will have to be replaced in the immediate future AND if you're naive enough to believe there won't be a few problems along the way to slow down implementation a little (maybe a lot) then you are being a bit Forrest Gumpy.
The final kicker: NOT saying JCAB have any figure required to fail/have problems during recurrent SIM/LINE checks however people do fail, rightly or wrongly.
There is NO WAY ON THIS EARTH that Sky failures could go from X% (JCAB) to 0% (Sky in house C&T) overnight. Eventually YES will be better (or slightly less stressful depending on the CKR involved) however, as always, there can be NO GAIN without PAIN!!! (also make the JCAB look bad, can't have that!)
- upgrades...
Lots of talk - anyone who believes a contract agency that there are "assured" upgrades is indeed a very, very trusting individual.
Unknown is the number of Japanese Captains who are still arriving, how many (if any) achieve positions of authority and who could possibly change the direction of the company (maybe better, maybe worse).
Invitations issued can be withdrawn, ignored or altered ESPECIALLY by old, esteemed Japanese Captains in new management positions....maybe!
- of the uniform the cap is the ONLY required constant (strangely though most seem to find the wind too strong on walkarounds so do not wear the cap for safety reasons - miraculously on checkrides the wind always appears pretty calm!)
Either the polo shirt OR the windbreaker, one must be visible on the FD.
Totally a power/control game between Sky management and JCAB, apparently loads are ok or improved so maybe the plebs don't mind someone taking on the life-usurping bureaucracy that dominates Japan?? Just wondering.
As a final:any "uniform" Vs "pay arriving on time" aggro...give me pay every time, not perfect but pretty consistent;
- pay, greatest benefit can be that TAX liability is clearly laid out as opposed to some other countries - and all contract companies comply, EOFS.
How that translates to individuals is up to them to work out - tax in other countries/contracts can be less "clear" probably to the advantage of the contract company and the airline, would doubt any advantage to the contract pilot (just me being cynical no doubt!);
- "Skymark need 200 pilots..." apparently an early statement by Sky, IF it is finally realised the initial statement was incorrect it will NEVER BE CORRECTED: not the Japanese way.
It is possible the last lot going through were all aces of the bases - all complete knuckledraggers - or somewhere in between.
Wouldn't matter - slow down acceptance rate...but not loose face about number of pilots required.
Possibility...maybe yes...maybe no...maybe maybe...
- whomever it was "...training great..." oh please!
the classroom "training" is still classic rote (is it not??), hopefully a few things of sense and practicality have slipped into later training.Cheers all
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Hi Lindberg
Hope all going well in V.
Looks like our responses were being typed and entered at the same time, think your's very fair as you were screwed pretty hard in Sky; however much there was some minor error from the flight crew the whole problem came down to a "wrong place/wrong time/COMPLETELY wrong time in the JCAB Vs SKY non-drama that was being played out" situation.
All the best
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Hope all going well in V.
Looks like our responses were being typed and entered at the same time, think your's very fair as you were screwed pretty hard in Sky; however much there was some minor error from the flight crew the whole problem came down to a "wrong place/wrong time/COMPLETELY wrong time in the JCAB Vs SKY non-drama that was being played out" situation.
All the best
Cheers
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Look Grandpa, lay off the prune juice for a second. For starters your English/grammar is atrocious. (It helps if you are trying to come off as being educated). Yes its a LCC, so they will cut corners where they can. I'm not hearing too many complaints about the uniform. I know its not like the golden years when you flew for Braniff or Pan Am. The year is 2012. My guess is Skymark Pilots will have to wear the traditional uniform once they start flying International in order to make it through Customs. To say this is the worst contract in all of Asia just confirms what I already presumed..that you are an uneducated idiot. I brought in over $10000/ month while in training. (once I am online there is the potential to make over $20000) That was AFTER taxes. I can think of several contracts that come in below that figure. Plus its not in CHINA. The place doesn't even compare to Japan. 57 is a good age to get checked for dementia. Skymark isn't the be all or end all, thats for damn sure, but its not nearly half as bad as you make it out to be. Stick to things you know about, like whats on the menu at the Ole Country Buffet or the words to old Glen Miller Band tunes. Cuz your bs here doesn't really fly. Where do you work SuperDave?
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If u look at the post from Lindbergh,you will see what a factual post actually is,instead of one based on a little research and a lot of hearsay. So you recommended the job to your friend,who did not get the job,then all of a sudden Skymark is a villain and you show your maturity by calling it school yard names.
You post on this forum with a new ID,stating your age as 37 then say you have 30 yrs experience. One lie usually means more,liars can't help themselves that way.Again you are making recommendations even though you did not interview,have worked for Skymark or even worked in Japan. You assertions about the uniform and Skymarks pay shows how little you do know.
Since you know the chief pilot so well. I am surprised your friend did not get the job, but please,let all of us here working at Skymark know the latest.
Yes, I do and am recommending Skymark to my friends.
I am happy here at Skymark,it works for me and will defend it against wrong statements and assumptions from those that have no knowledge.
Hope you are happy, who ever and where ever you are
You post on this forum with a new ID,stating your age as 37 then say you have 30 yrs experience. One lie usually means more,liars can't help themselves that way.Again you are making recommendations even though you did not interview,have worked for Skymark or even worked in Japan. You assertions about the uniform and Skymarks pay shows how little you do know.
Since you know the chief pilot so well. I am surprised your friend did not get the job, but please,let all of us here working at Skymark know the latest.
Yes, I do and am recommending Skymark to my friends.
I am happy here at Skymark,it works for me and will defend it against wrong statements and assumptions from those that have no knowledge.
Hope you are happy, who ever and where ever you are
Last edited by work to live; 5th May 2012 at 02:16.
