Singapore Airlines new LCC - info?
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Singapore Airlines new LCC - info?
anyone know what kind of timeline Singapore Airlines is looking for to launch its new low cost carrier and if a management team has been appointed?
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Rumour is that CPT pay is 10925 SGD basic + 100 SGD/hour, F/O pay is 5700/70. No accomodation allowance, nor child education support. Income is taxable...
Also, one has to pay for inteview costs (air ticket + HOTAC)
Also, one has to pay for inteview costs (air ticket + HOTAC)
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total package for Capt S22k, FO S13k (includes overnight allowance,flight pay, monthly bonus, loss of lic etc...) Interviewing 19-23 Sept. Must fund travel/ hotac for interview. 
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Who in their right mind thinks a low-cost airline named Scoot (wtf?), based in Singapore would pay its pilots more than the mothership pays its pilots?
22k for a Captain??
'monthly bonus'??
Hahahahaha!
There are some serious delusions going around pprune I think.
Think 15k/month after taxes. Nothing left over at the end of the month if you have a family and two kids in school. Five-year contract at 1000 hours/year (legal CAAS limit). Regional? Night?
Draw your own conclusions.
22k for a Captain??
'monthly bonus'??
Hahahahaha!
There are some serious delusions going around pprune I think.
Think 15k/month after taxes. Nothing left over at the end of the month if you have a family and two kids in school. Five-year contract at 1000 hours/year (legal CAAS limit). Regional? Night?
Draw your own conclusions.
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Hi,
was invited for an interview and screening in September (19th-23rd of September), after receiving the T & Cs I had to decline, 22k for CP and 13K for an FO are based on 80/85 block hours a month, so if you fly less you get less.
Also be aware, no housing and school allowances, taxes up to 20%, you have to pay for your interview (tickets and hotel) to Singapore. They mentioned that you can expect to pay round about 3500-5000 SGD for an 3BR appartment
, so for an FO with family and kids you wonīt be able to safe any money at the end of the month because you need something to eat, pay your insurances, pay for school and what else, what a poor contract!
I stay where I am
was invited for an interview and screening in September (19th-23rd of September), after receiving the T & Cs I had to decline, 22k for CP and 13K for an FO are based on 80/85 block hours a month, so if you fly less you get less.
Also be aware, no housing and school allowances, taxes up to 20%, you have to pay for your interview (tickets and hotel) to Singapore. They mentioned that you can expect to pay round about 3500-5000 SGD for an 3BR appartment
, so for an FO with family and kids you wonīt be able to safe any money at the end of the month because you need something to eat, pay your insurances, pay for school and what else, what a poor contract! I stay where I am
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The fact that they expect you to pay for a ticket should give a clear indication that this is a low salary position. Also of course hotel costs and medical too don't forget have to be paid as well.
Are they going to charge for uniforms and CAAS licence as well?
I well remember some delusional Pilots who joined SIA Cargo trying to convince themselves they had a deal as good as Mainline Pilots which of course was nonsense as why would SIA have set up the Cargo as a separate entity except to have a lower Pilot cost base which it indeed was.
Are they going to charge for uniforms and CAAS licence as well?
I well remember some delusional Pilots who joined SIA Cargo trying to convince themselves they had a deal as good as Mainline Pilots which of course was nonsense as why would SIA have set up the Cargo as a separate entity except to have a lower Pilot cost base which it indeed was.
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Tax rates:
FO- 13000/ month - 156000/year - Tax 8,7 %
Capt - 22000/month - 264000/year - Tax 12,3 %
Of course there's no housing or school allowance. They are aiming for local crew. Plenty of guys in Tiger that are looking for a wide body rating.
Poor contract? Maybe if it was an expat contract. It's not, and for a local it's pretty good.
FO- 13000/ month - 156000/year - Tax 8,7 %
Capt - 22000/month - 264000/year - Tax 12,3 %
Of course there's no housing or school allowance. They are aiming for local crew. Plenty of guys in Tiger that are looking for a wide body rating.
Poor contract? Maybe if it was an expat contract. It's not, and for a local it's pretty good.
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"why would SIA have set up the Cargo as a separate entity"
Main reason: To get rid of main line FTL:s which were badly suited for Cargo.
If you factor in that almost every Cargo captain hired was an expat the unit cost per captain wasn't much lower than before the split.
Total remuneration for an expat captain in cargo has been about 10 % lower than for main line but that's mostly due to less flying hours. There are other things that are worse in Cargo though; staff travel, leave days and the fact you can't use the school allowance outside of Singapore.
Main reason: To get rid of main line FTL:s which were badly suited for Cargo.
If you factor in that almost every Cargo captain hired was an expat the unit cost per captain wasn't much lower than before the split.
Total remuneration for an expat captain in cargo has been about 10 % lower than for main line but that's mostly due to less flying hours. There are other things that are worse in Cargo though; staff travel, leave days and the fact you can't use the school allowance outside of Singapore.
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As Tiger is partly owned by SIA do you seriously think they will offer positions to Tiger Pilots. It would be like robbing Peter to pay Paul.
If there any expats left in Mainline on the B777 perhaps they will not renew their contracts thinking they have no choice but to join this new outfit??
As Tiger is partly owned by SIA do you seriously think they will offer positions to Tiger Pilots. It would be like robbing Peter to pay Paul.
If there any expats left in Mainline on the B777 perhaps they will not renew their contracts thinking they have no choice but to join this new outfit??
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Hi,
I donīt know how many days off,nothing mentioned about it. Iīve been told by the e-mail that more than 600 pilots applied for the new position, if rated or not, I donīt know.
Annual leave is 28 days a year, thats all that I can tell you.
I had a very nice reply by the new chief pilot, because I wanted to explain him my reasons, in that context he said that they will recruit over a period of 5 years from now, so if I am still interested I can apply again later on.
Thats all
I donīt know how many days off,nothing mentioned about it. Iīve been told by the e-mail that more than 600 pilots applied for the new position, if rated or not, I donīt know.
Annual leave is 28 days a year, thats all that I can tell you.
I had a very nice reply by the new chief pilot, because I wanted to explain him my reasons, in that context he said that they will recruit over a period of 5 years from now, so if I am still interested I can apply again later on.
Thats all
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You might be correct in respect of the Tiger guys but I have heard that some have been invited for an interview. And, yes, some main line guys that hasn't been offered a renewal have applied as well.
You might be correct in respect of the Tiger guys but I have heard that some have been invited for an interview. And, yes, some main line guys that hasn't been offered a renewal have applied as well.