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Old 15th Jul 2011, 09:23
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Air Asia Japan??

Just saw this on Pilot Career Centre:

Malaysian budget airline AirAsia is likely to sign a deal with All Nippon Airways (ANA), Japan's largest carrier, to launch a low-cost airline, the Star newspaper reported, citing sources.

An announcement will be made next week that involves AirAsia setting up a low-cost carrier and a hub in Japan that serves domestic and regional markets, the report said. It made no mention of the financial value of the deal.

The Star also said AirAsia will drive operations and hold an equity share in the partnership called AirAsia Japan.

AirAsia could not be immediately reached for comment, while ANA spokesman in Tokyo Ryosei Nomura said, "ANA does not comment on market rumours."

AirAsia has drawn up plans to buy an extra 100 Airbus A320neo jets, potentially taking its record-breaking order to 300, a source with direct knowledge of ongoing discussions said last week.

ANA's rival Japan Airlines signed a JPY¥10 billion - JPY¥20 billion (USD$126.3 million - USD$252.5 million) joint venture agreement this month with Australia's Jetstar -- a unit of Qantas Airways -- to create a new discount airline, the Nikkei business daily had reported.


Should be interesting is this develops. I wonder what will happen to Peach?


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Guess Peach will be re-branded as Air Asia J
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Guess Peach will be re-branded as Air Asia J
I doubt that, once ANA makes plans and puts them in motion with announcements and the likes, they don't change them
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Air Asia 2011 pilot interview

Anybody willing to share info about the process, especially the written exam, i heard it is not easy, where to concentrate the reading...thanks
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BOND

Hello AirAsia Pilots,

Understood the bond for Captain is 5 years. But how long it is if i am already rated on a320, hows does it differ if i have an A330 rating. Looking for Command opportunity there.
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are you PIC rated allready? would think there is not much they can bond you for then. maybe linetraining or something but that wouldnt be 5 yrs surely.
only guessing though
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AirAsia and ANA to form low-cost carrier in Japan

Malaysia's AirAsia and Japan's All Nippon Airways (ANA) have agreed to form a low-cost carrier based in Tokyo's Narita Airport.
The joint venture will be named AirAsia Japan, with AirAsia owning 33% voting shares and 16% non-voting shares through its wholly owned subsidiary, AA International. ANA will hold the remaining 51% stake.
AirAsia Japan will help serve the highly lucrative domestic travel market, the Malaysian carrier said in a statement.
"Air travel is deeply entrenched in the social and business life of the Japanese, even under a high cost environment," the statement said.
"Both ANA and AirAsia firmly believe that AirAsia Japan will be a success as the Japanese market possesses the necessary ingredients for growth, such as the population's strong propensity to travel, its high per capita income coupled with deep and significant internet penetration," the statement added.
The AirAsia brand is established in the Japanese market and has gained further traction since the company's long-haul low-cost operation, AirAsia X, started its services to Japan early this year, according to the statement.
Under the agreement, AirAsia and ANA have agreed not to compete against AirAsia Japan.
However, this clause does not apply to Peach Aviation, ANA's low-cost carrier subsidiary based in Osaka's Kansai International Airport. Peach is expected to start its services next year.
The agreement also states that Peach is not permitted to locate its base at Narita.
AirAsia Japan will serve the domestic Japanese market and northeast Asian countries such as South Korea, Taiwan and China.
In addition, AirAsia is planning to extend its services into southeast Asia through its existing network there.
Apart from AirAsia's Malaysian operations, the low-cost carrier also operates in Indonesia and Thailand, with a virtual hub in Singapore.
The airline has also announced plans to set up joint ventures in the Philippines and Vietnam, where services are expected to begin at the end of the year.
AirAsia Japan has applied for an air operators certificate (AOC) from the Japan Civil Aviation Bureau.
Both AirAsia and ANA have not said when they plan to begin operations.
Qantas subsidiary Jetstar operates long-haul low-cost services into Japan from Australia, while its Singapore-based carrier Jetstar Asia also plans to begin services to Tokyo.


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ANA and AirAsia to form ‘AirAsia Japan’

ANA and AirAsia to form ‘AirAsia Japan’
New joint venture the first low-cost carrier based at Narita International Airport, Tokyo
TOKYO, July 21, 2011 – ANA Group, Japan’s largest airline, and AirAsia, the world’s best low cost airline, today announced that they are teaming up to form AirAsia Japan, a new low-cost carrier.

AirAsia Japan will be the first low-cost carrier to be based at Narita International Airport. Operating under the AirAsia brand, it is to serve both domestic and international destinations when commencing operations in August 2012, subject to obtaining the relevant approvals.

In Japan, the aviation market is undergoing rapid transformation with developments including the expansion of Open Skies agreements and increased domestic competition from road and rail-based travel. In addition, Narita airport, a major international hub serving Tokyo, is seeking to increase capacity with the introduction of a new terminal and is expected to attract many low-cost carriers and foreign airlines.

ANA has been seeking opportunities to launch a new low-cost business based at Narita and, after analysis, has concluded that partnering with an existing low-cost carrier is the most efficient and strategically advantageous option.

Having already established an unmatched network, especially within the ASEAN region, AirAsia has been seeking a business partner with strong Japanese market influence to further expand its scope, as well as contribute to strengthening bilateral ties between ASEAN and Japan.

The formation of AirAsia Japan leverages AirAsia’s successful business model and brings together the complementary strengths of the two companies, generating new demand with the aim of making affordable and quality travel available to all.

Mr. Shinichiro Ito, President and CEO of ANA said, “By combining AirAsia’s business model and brand with ANA’s depth of knowledge of the Japanese market, we aim to bring new value to our customers, offer diverse and enjoyable travel experiences, and generate new demand. We believe that AirAsia Japan will make air travel more accessible and provide a convenient and efficient travel option for a wide range of people.”

Tan Sri Dr. Tony Fernandes, Group CEO of AirAsia said, “We are proud to extend AirAsia’s successful low-cost business model to Japan and further provide opportunities for everyone to fly to the destinations of their dreams with low fares. AirAsia Japan will not only boost economic growth between ASEAN and East Asia by providing better access to markets around the region, but also enhance links within travel, trade and tourism. AirAsia is proud to be identified as a low cost carrier partner to ANA, a very respected, credible and successful airline in Japan. This new joint venture is an important milestone in AirAsia’s growth as ANA is the very first airline partner to form a joint venture with AirAsia.”

New Company Outline
Company name: AirAsia Japan Co., Ltd.
Address: 1-5-2 Higashi Shimbashi, Minato-ku, Tokyo (plan)
Capital: ANA 67%, AirAsia 33% (Voting-right share basis)
*ANA 51%, AirAsia 49% (Capital basis)
Base: Narita International Airport
Paid-in-capital: JPY 5 Billion
Fiscal year ending: March
* Company representative will be determined once the company is formally established.
* AirAsia Japan will operate under the AirAsia brand and service model
Schedule
    Aug. 2011: Establish company
   Sept.- Oct. 2011: Apply for Air Operators' Certificate (AOC)
   Aug. 2012: First flight
* The above schedule is subject to obtaining the relevant approvals.
* Because operations will not commence until 2012, ANA does not anticipate any impact to its earnings for this fiscal year, ending March 2012.

About ANA Group
All Nippon Airways (ANA) is the ninth largest airline in the world by revenues and the largest in Japan by passenger numbers. Founded in 1952, it flies today to 76 domestic and international cities in a fleet of 228 aircraft serving a network of 164 routes. ANA has 33,000 employees and operates about 1,000 flights a day. In 2010, it carried 43 million passengers and generated revenues of $16bn. ANA has been a core member of Star Alliance since 1999 and more than 20 million members belong to its Frequent Flyer Program (ANA Mileage Club). ANA is the launch customer for the world's newest and most advanced passenger aircraft, the Boeing 787 Dreamliner
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Thanks a lot for posting all these good info guys (well I don't know if it is good or bad, time will tell!)

I' m sure it s early days but after all this is a rumour forum, anyone knows how the captain salary is currently at air asia ( I would guess it changes with bases) and any idea how what the conditions could be on a NRT basing? (Japan ain't a cheap place to live in...)

ANA is one of the few companies left with good conditions and well treated crews (not only money wise), I' m strongly hoping this LCC adventure (Air Asia+Peach) wont change this...a bit optimistic i know!
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If the air asia japan aircraft are Japanese registered then any pilots recruited will have to go through the whole JCAB box and dice - medical, endorsement (regardless of previous experience) and JCAB exams and checks (the air law is a killer in particular).

See threads on Air Japan for details, but there are about 800 ex JAL guys still looking for work, so doubtful they will import foreigners, particularly from other parts of Asia.

Very few of the AJX / AJV pilots live in Japan. The company will not sponsor you for a residential visa. Its a commuting contract only....
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This is all true, but air asia is a Malaysian company so i doubt the aircraft will be with a Japanese registration, unless there are special requirements to in fact have a local registration (which wouldn' t surprise me in Japan!).

As far as commuting contracts you are absolutely right but that is true only for long haul ops (the contracts for the Q400 are actually with a sponsored visa) plus some of the foreigners can get a visa based on other conditions, the problem obviously would be more of a JCAB training provided or not. Because if the conversion isn't sponsored then of course the jobs would only be for the Japanese guys.

I guess we will see what happens..to be honest as much as I was kind of optimistic about the Peach start up, I am not as much with these last news.

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Although AirAsia is a Malay company, the new venture will be a Japanese Airline. It has to be to access routes - AirAsia doesn't have cabotage out of Japan.

Also look at the breakdown on ownership posted in the Articles above.

The aircraft will be JA registered. Agree with your comments on the Q400 contract, but those aircraft are underneath the radar of the ANA pilots union, who are the prime driver of the 'no resident gaijin policy'

Regardless, hopefully it will provide some opportunities for the out of work JAL guys as well as current Air Asia pilots.
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I'd have to agree with Mohikan; if Peach is going to be operating under "JA" registration, which has been decided, then 99% chance Air Asia Japan will also be the same. I said 99% and deducted 1% because, if Air Asia provides the aircraft from their most recent purchase in Toulouse, then I could see logistical issues with aircraft ownership, etc.

Regarding Peach, a recent article I read in the Japanese "Airline" magazine stated that Peach is unable to hire through agencies, because they were unable to receive authorization from the government (it didn't stipulate whether it was MLIT or MFA). I don't know if this is a temporary thing, but for the time being, Peach is restricted to hiring pilots that hold Japanese residency and JCAB certs (or converted on your own dime).
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For what I hear is that Peach already hired the ex Jal pilots that they were going to hire and soon after the start of operations they will hire out of the ex pat market, another thing is that many of the former Jal pilots are already working or simply left the career all together, there aren't that many left to cover for these two new ventures if hiring starts ramping up.
A320's to start on domestic and international operations with a330's to be added later on, independent operation than Peach.

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They will be in desperate need for crews towards the end of the year, the available number of JCAB rated pilots have dried out ( the ones willing to work for the T&C's they are offering) I expect them to start hiring non JCAB rated "foreign" pilots later this year, the T&C'S are low and they know it, but although one side wants to have a more competitive pay package, the other doesn't want to set a precedent, it will be interesting to watch how the need for qualified crews will influence the resulting offer!
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I see they're recruiting captains now, for Nagoya base, anybody got info on T&C's?
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I see they're recruiting captains now, for Nagoya base, anybody got info on T&C's?
Where did you see the ad ?
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It's on the Air Asia website https://airasia.wd3.myworkdayjobs.co...320-_JR0000119
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Any idea or information for the recruitment process ?

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