Contract agency rants and Kudos, Vietman, Korean, Asiana, Rishworth
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Korean air foreign pilots management has unilaterally modified the foreign pilots' contracts by a simple email yesterday. They are not allowing travel on your time off to any other destination than your designated base. Up until yesterday, your could request up to the day of travel, any destination the airlines flies to. Most of the foreign pilots working for KAL were attracted by the convenience of flexible scheduling and confirmed travel in and out of ICN to any destination on their network that they fly to at least twice weekly. It is specified black on white in the employment contract.
The salary at KAL is way less than the neighboring Chinese airlines. Most of the pilots at KAL decided to join the company for these scheduling perks instead of the money. Now these perks are disappearing. Decision are made unilaterally by foreign pilots management and contracts agencies do nothing but cashing their monthly 1000$ commission and answering the pilots emails by saying: We are very sorry to hear that. We hope a solution can be found soon.
Just wanted to warn any pilots in the process of joining the company. KAL is not the same as before and the contract can be modified overnight by a department with very poor managerial skills.
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The salary at KAL is way less than the neighboring Chinese airlines. Most of the pilots at KAL decided to join the company for these scheduling perks instead of the money. Now these perks are disappearing. Decision are made unilaterally by foreign pilots management and contracts agencies do nothing but cashing their monthly 1000$ commission and answering the pilots emails by saying: We are very sorry to hear that. We hope a solution can be found soon.
Just wanted to warn any pilots in the process of joining the company. KAL is not the same as before and the contract can be modified overnight by a department with very poor managerial skills.
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Korean air foreign pilots management has unilaterally modified the foreign pilots' contracts by a simple email yesterday. They are not allowing travel on your time off to any other destination than your designated base. Up until yesterday, your could request up to the day of travel, any destination the airlines flies to. Most of the foreign pilots working for KAL were attracted by the convenience of flexible scheduling and confirmed travel in and out of ICN to any destination on their network that they fly to at least twice weekly. It is specified black on white in the employment contract.
The salary at KAL is way less than the neighboring Chinese airlines. Most of the pilots at KAL decided to join the company for these scheduling perks instead of the money. Now these perks are disappearing. Decision are made unilaterally by foreign pilots management and contracts agencies do nothing but cashing their monthly 1000$ commission and answering the pilots emails by saying: We are very sorry to hear that. We hope a solution can be found soon.
Just wanted to warn any pilots in the process of joining the company. KAL is not the same as before and the contract can be modified overnight by a department with very poor managerial skills.
ExpatpilotKAL
The salary at KAL is way less than the neighboring Chinese airlines. Most of the pilots at KAL decided to join the company for these scheduling perks instead of the money. Now these perks are disappearing. Decision are made unilaterally by foreign pilots management and contracts agencies do nothing but cashing their monthly 1000$ commission and answering the pilots emails by saying: We are very sorry to hear that. We hope a solution can be found soon.
Just wanted to warn any pilots in the process of joining the company. KAL is not the same as before and the contract can be modified overnight by a department with very poor managerial skills.
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Korean air foreign pilots management has unilaterally modified the foreign pilots' contracts by a simple email yesterday. They are not allowing travel on your time off to any other destination than your designated base. Up until yesterday, your could request up to the day of travel, any destination the airlines flies to. Most of the foreign pilots working for KAL were attracted by the convenience of flexible scheduling and confirmed travel in and out of ICN to any destination on their network that they fly to at least twice weekly. It is specified black on white in the employment contract.
The salary at KAL is way less than the neighboring Chinese airlines. Most of the pilots at KAL decided to join the company for these scheduling perks instead of the money. Now these perks are disappearing. Decision are made unilaterally by foreign pilots management and contracts agencies do nothing but cashing their monthly 1000$ commission and answering the pilots emails by saying: We are very sorry to hear that. We hope a solution can be found soon.
Just wanted to warn any pilots in the process of joining the company. KAL is not the same as before and the contract can be modified overnight by a department with very poor managerial skills.
ExpatpilotKAL
The salary at KAL is way less than the neighboring Chinese airlines. Most of the pilots at KAL decided to join the company for these scheduling perks instead of the money. Now these perks are disappearing. Decision are made unilaterally by foreign pilots management and contracts agencies do nothing but cashing their monthly 1000$ commission and answering the pilots emails by saying: We are very sorry to hear that. We hope a solution can be found soon.
Just wanted to warn any pilots in the process of joining the company. KAL is not the same as before and the contract can be modified overnight by a department with very poor managerial skills.
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Fci ,
Shockingly bad ,
Offer less money than other brokers , poor support , limited knowledge of aviation .
Re vn , they do as vn tell them , make no attempt to represent the pilots interest .
Shockingly bad ,
Offer less money than other brokers , poor support , limited knowledge of aviation .
Re vn , they do as vn tell them , make no attempt to represent the pilots interest .
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seems good old times are over
I was with Rishworth, DPI and PARC in 3 different asian airlines.
Problems were somehow everywhere and the help was not really much. Most disappointing was PARC, they took just a copy of the chinese argument, no reflection on my problem at all. I have turned my back on them.
It is still a business issue. As a pilot we are just a small partner, easier to screw down than an big one with much more revenue making.
Problems were somehow everywhere and the help was not really much. Most disappointing was PARC, they took just a copy of the chinese argument, no reflection on my problem at all. I have turned my back on them.
It is still a business issue. As a pilot we are just a small partner, easier to screw down than an big one with much more revenue making.
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Korean air foreign pilots management has unilaterally modified the foreign pilots' contracts by a simple email yesterday. They are not allowing travel on your time off to any other destination than your designated base. Up until yesterday, your could request up to the day of travel, any destination the airlines flies to. Most of the foreign pilots working for KAL were attracted by the convenience of flexible scheduling and confirmed travel in and out of ICN to any destination on their network that they fly to at least twice weekly. It is specified black on white in the employment contract.
The salary at KAL is way less than the neighboring Chinese airlines. Most of the pilots at KAL decided to join the company for these scheduling perks instead of the money. Now these perks are disappearing. Decision are made unilaterally by foreign pilots management and contracts agencies do nothing but cashing their monthly 1000$ commission and answering the pilots emails by saying: We are very sorry to hear that. We hope a solution can be found soon.
Just wanted to warn any pilots in the process of joining the company. KAL is not the same as before and the contract can be modified overnight by a department with very poor managerial skills.
ExpatpilotKAL
The salary at KAL is way less than the neighboring Chinese airlines. Most of the pilots at KAL decided to join the company for these scheduling perks instead of the money. Now these perks are disappearing. Decision are made unilaterally by foreign pilots management and contracts agencies do nothing but cashing their monthly 1000$ commission and answering the pilots emails by saying: We are very sorry to hear that. We hope a solution can be found soon.
Just wanted to warn any pilots in the process of joining the company. KAL is not the same as before and the contract can be modified overnight by a department with very poor managerial skills.
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Is it too bad in China if you start the process with 2 agencies but than you pick the one that actually got you there??
I can explain better like you send your resume and paperwork to 2 or more agencies and always gonna have some that are faster and treat you better so when you finally come the time to start you pick the best.
Or you have to really start with one and hold on that one till the end???
I can explain better like you send your resume and paperwork to 2 or more agencies and always gonna have some that are faster and treat you better so when you finally come the time to start you pick the best.
Or you have to really start with one and hold on that one till the end???
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Anyone have first hand info on Longreach or VOR holdings or APAS, in regards to Chinese contracts? One agency in particular (I won't name them) takes an awful long time to respond to my emails. Makes me wonder how much support I'll get when I'm over there.....
Any insights or recommendations would be appreciated. PM's are welcome too
Any insights or recommendations would be appreciated. PM's are welcome too
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I noticed that vor holdings website is down except the home page, the page with job offers has been offline for days now... http://vorholdings.com/pilotjobs/
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I'm with longreach and I can say they have been very supportive in all areas. Jacqueline is awesome as far as support in china goes.
There will always be some areas that aren't perfect and you can't please everyone with certain aspects. But if you want a contract in china I would happly recommend, longreach will always do best to support .
Manuel
There will always be some areas that aren't perfect and you can't please everyone with certain aspects. But if you want a contract in china I would happly recommend, longreach will always do best to support .
Manuel