Contract agency rants and Kudos, Vietman, Korean, Asiana, Rishworth
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Longreach
Just wondering if anyone has used Longreach China as a recruitment agent and is willing to provide feedback. In particular with regard to any of the China Southern contracts.
Cheer,
SM
Cheer,
SM
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I know Thomas personally. He did work for KAL. I do not know what he does not know. Maybe it does not need to be known. Considering that in this world it is more who you know than what you know he knows a lot. Get a life!
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KAL & CCL
For those that are interested, CCL totally professional. Refund any travel costs on successful completion of interview, end of contract or resignation (other agencies don't and KAL charges). Paid far earlier than other agencies. Great insurance and loss of license (you have to pay, but the corporate rates are very reasonable). Always on the end of the phone and very helpful.
3 years at KAL, had a great experience.
3 years at KAL, had a great experience.
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Sigh..... It's been a long time, and I haven't said anything about this but...... having seen a person saying CCL is totally professional makes my blood boil. I'll tell you why. I was on 3 months LWOP waiting for the arrival of my first child. I was relatively happy as a skipper with KAL and probably would be with them to this day if it wasn't for CCL. While on my 3 months LWOP I was offered a position with a Chinese carrier. They would pay for my type rating BEFORE I signed a contract. I did it (type rating) while on LWOP (no contract signed and every intention of heading back to KAL when my LWOP finished). When CCL discovered I was in China doing this course they told me to return to work within 1 week. I said that I was granted 3 months LWOP and I was expecting my first child within 2 weeks. I would return or hand in my notice at the end of the LWOP. To cut a long story short, they got a debt collection agency in my home country to hound me. I ignored them and pointed out that I was constructively dismissed from my job. Also KAL owed me over 30 days leave (a point I had been bringing up with CCL for years - but they ignored..... I have the emails). Finally, when I was about to buy another house back home the bank told me they couldn't give me the money as there was a claim against me from the debt collection agency for #$#15,000. Because I has been with the same bank all my life, I gave them the story and they gave me the money. No problem. In the meantime I threatened the debt collection agency with legal action and they retracted the claim immediately. My point here is...... CCL are a bunch of criminals. They tried to clamp down on my credit rating when it stated clearly in their contract that any contract disagreements would be solved by the courts of the Isle of Mann (where they're based - and don't tell me that's not for their own benefit.....). In short.... I have been contracting for over 17 years. In that time I have come to realise that agents are scum...... no different than used car dealers or estate agents. They are a go-between..... they tell us what we want to hear, they tell the company we're working for someting different. When we sign on the dotted line and things are not as promised they run away. Trust me, I have promises IN WRITING from agents that are complete lies. Their attitude - so what, what are you going to do about it?
I now happily work for a flag carrier and am directly employed by the airline. No scumbag agents involved taking money for nothing.
I now happily work for a flag carrier and am directly employed by the airline. No scumbag agents involved taking money for nothing.
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Pilot recruitment agency
Hi guys,
Could someone give me some feedback, positive or/and negative aspects concerning the different recruitment pilot agency around the world ??
What about Parc Aviation or Longreach China ?
Which one is the best for the chinese contracts ?
Thanks for your precious feedbacks ....
Could someone give me some feedback, positive or/and negative aspects concerning the different recruitment pilot agency around the world ??
What about Parc Aviation or Longreach China ?
Which one is the best for the chinese contracts ?
Thanks for your precious feedbacks ....
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I can vouch for WASINC in China. Good service, generally prompt with requests and questions. However; a recruiter is not required. While the process is exhausting, a little research on this site as well as others should clarify the process from beginning to end. The recruiters are merely a middle man between you and the hr department. Depending on the airline, the HR department should be able to help you as much as any of the recruitment agencies can. Good Luck.
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Has anybody got opinions on Contractair, Longreach, IASCO, and Smile-Aviation? I'm looking at a China-based contract and am not certain which of these would best suit my needs.
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Actually working since 2 years in China. Longreach and Gabs are good. Definitely avoid Parc.
Issues with payments of training bonds and contract is basically illegal. Also tax issues and licence release are a big hurdle.
Pick the good ones...
Issues with payments of training bonds and contract is basically illegal. Also tax issues and licence release are a big hurdle.
Pick the good ones...
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I am, or was, on contract with TransAsia Airways through Rishworth. On nov 21 TransAsia airways ceased operation. I am currently stranded in Taipei and have not yet received my November salary. Rishworth may come through for us but as each day passes without communication from rishworth or TransAsia my pessimism increases. Maybe I will be pleasantly surprised and rishworth will recovery my salary and get my wife and me airline travel home, but I doubt it. I will update as this progresses.
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I am, or was, on contract with TransAsia Airways through Rishworth. On nov 21 TransAsia airways ceased operation. I am currently stranded in Taipei and have not yet received my November salary. Rishworth may come through for us but as each day passes without communication from rishworth or TransAsia my pessimism increases. Maybe I will be pleasantly surprised and rishworth will recovery my salary and get my wife and me airline travel home, but I doubt it. I will update as this progresses.
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I tried to read the whole thread but still confused with some stuff, can anybody tell me how much the agency take for their service , for example if I am interested in a contract with Cae Parc aviation in asia, will they take a monthy fee till my end of contract or there is a displacement fee or what exactly, and is there is any chance to be employed by company after getting a screening with the agency
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In some airlines there is such posibility - once you finish your current contract with the agency- of being hired directly with them, usually on local terms.
Regarding how much the agency takes from your salary....you wonŽt know. Agencies are being paid by the airlines and they will pay you according with your contract.
How much is paying the airline to the agency for your service....is quite difficult to know since the agencies doesnŽt share this kind of information.
There is a tendency to forget that we pilots are not the clients but the airlines.
@TugaFly...for ASIANA IŽd go with Parc.
Regarding how much the agency takes from your salary....you wonŽt know. Agencies are being paid by the airlines and they will pay you according with your contract.
How much is paying the airline to the agency for your service....is quite difficult to know since the agencies doesnŽt share this kind of information.
There is a tendency to forget that we pilots are not the clients but the airlines.
@TugaFly...for ASIANA IŽd go with Parc.