Contract agency rants and Kudos, Vietman, Korean, Asiana, Rishworth
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Doctor's waiting room
Posts: 704
Originally Posted by falconeasydriver
Looking at options and I may be on shakey ground, looking at the KAL contract. Can anyone advise, the salary quoted is it gross, or net of Korean tax etc? e.g. what do you get in your hands?
Depending on the taxation agreement between South Korea and your home country will dictate how much tax you need to pay at home, if any.
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Max Cont Thrust
Posts: 46
WRT China......
Just heard about nationwide reduction of salaries to compensate for the implementation of their new flight time limitations. Has anyone been contacted or intimated by their respective agencies about the planned reduction in pay and bonuses?
My prospective employer has a new pay matrix circulating around. They haven't made an official announcement yet, but looks like it's a go. Basically a 1k reduction in basic and 12% reduction on the safety bonus. There has been an increase on the OT rates. But back of the envelope calculations show a drop in overall compensation.
Just heard about nationwide reduction of salaries to compensate for the implementation of their new flight time limitations. Has anyone been contacted or intimated by their respective agencies about the planned reduction in pay and bonuses?
My prospective employer has a new pay matrix circulating around. They haven't made an official announcement yet, but looks like it's a go. Basically a 1k reduction in basic and 12% reduction on the safety bonus. There has been an increase on the OT rates. But back of the envelope calculations show a drop in overall compensation.
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: NAT-HLA
Posts: 78
Originally Posted by FlightDetent
Once you go for the medical or ATPL tests you are locked-in, the airline submits your application.
To save time, on your first visit you will be asked to take at least one of those in addition to the assesment SIM, which pretty much rules out parallel applications.
It might be possible to change later IF your handler manages to agree on it with them (not to join), or their interest is lost.
To save time, on your first visit you will be asked to take at least one of those in addition to the assesment SIM, which pretty much rules out parallel applications.
It might be possible to change later IF your handler manages to agree on it with them (not to join), or their interest is lost.
Thanks so much!
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Reup
Posts: 130
Originally Posted by A321drvr
China is sadly out of the question as it seems, however in case of Vietnam Airlines which agency is the best? I got an invitation to submit by Rishworth, FCI, CAE and the rest of the lot.
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: J-land
Posts: 34
Hi Guys and Gals
Just a note about TWI Aviation... Have been with the agency for over 10 years and in Sep 2018 the ownership and Management changed... TWI Aviation is now owned by LongReach Avn... The New Manager also Manages IASCO and he and his team have made positive changes to the operation... Went thru a Contract Renewal at the first of the year and was the easiest and most productive of 3 renewals at IBEX... A good friend who is at SKYMARK thru IASCO has also been very happy with the Management team... When the Ownership transfer happened the Owner's of LongReach came out to J-land for a introduction and were very positive about bringing TWIA under their Brand... Both the Manager and Owners are pilots so they have a real understanding of issues of the driver... Anybody considering a contract in Japan I would recommend TWI Aviation/ IASCO if they are one of the of Agencies offering the position... Especially IBEX, they are now the BEST of the three...
Kampai, Jpncrjdriver
Just a note about TWI Aviation... Have been with the agency for over 10 years and in Sep 2018 the ownership and Management changed... TWI Aviation is now owned by LongReach Avn... The New Manager also Manages IASCO and he and his team have made positive changes to the operation... Went thru a Contract Renewal at the first of the year and was the easiest and most productive of 3 renewals at IBEX... A good friend who is at SKYMARK thru IASCO has also been very happy with the Management team... When the Ownership transfer happened the Owner's of LongReach came out to J-land for a introduction and were very positive about bringing TWIA under their Brand... Both the Manager and Owners are pilots so they have a real understanding of issues of the driver... Anybody considering a contract in Japan I would recommend TWI Aviation/ IASCO if they are one of the of Agencies offering the position... Especially IBEX, they are now the BEST of the three...
Kampai, Jpncrjdriver
Join Date: May 2019
Location: South Pacific
Posts: 2
Greetings
I have read through most information about EVA and KAL using the search function in the forums.
I'm looking to find more up to date information, opinions, experience with preferred choice of agencies for EVA (Parc, Rishworth) and KAL (CCL, Rishworth, GAP) etc.
Currently 737 FO but looking for greener pastures in respect to life at home and the commuting of KAL appeals greatly to me.
Cant recall from where but heard KAL offer expat 737 FOs 777 after x months which could be nice as KAL serve my home city 5 times a week.
Feel free to PM.
Cheers
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I have read through most information about EVA and KAL using the search function in the forums.
I'm looking to find more up to date information, opinions, experience with preferred choice of agencies for EVA (Parc, Rishworth) and KAL (CCL, Rishworth, GAP) etc.
Currently 737 FO but looking for greener pastures in respect to life at home and the commuting of KAL appeals greatly to me.
Cant recall from where but heard KAL offer expat 737 FOs 777 after x months which could be nice as KAL serve my home city 5 times a week.
Feel free to PM.
Cheers
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Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: poland
Age: 35
Posts: 2
Hi,
does someone have any recent experience with Longreach contracts in China ?
Im trying to choose between SmileAviation and
Longreach...
The thing is, one of them is trying to tell me that
they can’t provide 6/2 roster and the other one says
its possible. For the same company...this gives me
a lot of confusion.
thanks for any news!
Cheers!
does someone have any recent experience with Longreach contracts in China ?
Im trying to choose between SmileAviation and
Longreach...
The thing is, one of them is trying to tell me that
they can’t provide 6/2 roster and the other one says
its possible. For the same company...this gives me
a lot of confusion.
thanks for any news!
Cheers!
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Austria
Posts: 9
Hi there,
I have a basic question about agencies and taxes.
Do the agencies pay taxes and social taxes at the point where they are located, since you are a normal employee for them? E.g. Does Parc pay taxes in Irleand from your income?
I know it depends on where you reside and so on, but most of you are probably non resident in Ireland, and live somewhere else. Which in fact most Double Taxation Agreements say taxes must be paind in the country of emplyment then (so Ireland in Parc case).
So can someone give me an example how you do your taxes in detail?
Regards
Austro767
I have a basic question about agencies and taxes.
Do the agencies pay taxes and social taxes at the point where they are located, since you are a normal employee for them? E.g. Does Parc pay taxes in Irleand from your income?
I know it depends on where you reside and so on, but most of you are probably non resident in Ireland, and live somewhere else. Which in fact most Double Taxation Agreements say taxes must be paind in the country of emplyment then (so Ireland in Parc case).
So can someone give me an example how you do your taxes in detail?
Regards
Austro767
Only half a speed-brake
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Commuting home
Age: 43
Posts: 3,456
The agencies try to pay as little taxes and no social contributions as possible. Exploring every loophole and actively creating some.
The really honest ones will give you answers.
The really good ones may have a system that actually works.
If anything is shady or debatable, the general concept is they do not pay and you get the penalty if foul play is called.
There is only one option, you get in touch with a licenced accountant of your own jurisdiction and pay them to research a tailored answer applicable to your personal circumstance.
The really honest ones will give you answers.
The really good ones may have a system that actually works.
If anything is shady or debatable, the general concept is they do not pay and you get the penalty if foul play is called.
There is only one option, you get in touch with a licenced accountant of your own jurisdiction and pay them to research a tailored answer applicable to your personal circumstance.
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Asia
Posts: 46
I guess I'm not the only one who finds it ridiculous that the agencies are still advertising positions with airlines which are knowingly made redundancies and/or stopped hiring several months ago. Just today at least 4 posts came up on my LinkedIn wall about positions in Japan, Vietnam and also Europe. All were posted a few hours ago...
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: NAT-HLA
Posts: 78
Agencies are all trying to build an up to date database of pilots. By applying to a position advertised through an agency the candidate adheres to a clause of not applying for the same position through a different agency. Just a plain simple competition between the usual suspects like Rishworth, CAE, Sigma, etc. Whether a real job is behind the advertised positions is yet to be seen, however most of them are only advertising as per their contract with the respective operators even though those operators stopped hiring, training, etc. until further notice. Also another thing is worth to mention: most Asian countries are banning entry of all foreigners making recruitment process extremely difficult, if not impossible. A Skype interview can only cover a part of the whole process, if any.
Only half a speed-brake
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Commuting home
Age: 43
Posts: 3,456
T.A.C.A.N Racetracks missing final pay
The ill-famed agency strikes again.
Last and this year Spicy Chinese Air Lines have a policy of only paying 30% of the due salary during vacation time (holidays home) and later releasing the remaining 70% upon pilot's return to PRC. For those not coming back, all the missing money would be sent as a lump sum with the final settlement. This happened to quite a few pilots for varied reasons, times are not easy.
Somehow T.A.C.A.N. Racetracks delay that last payment for a few months, later claim they never received it. This finds the foreign pilot home with his work visa cancelled, 6-9 months after he had left the country. Emails sent to the Airline HR don't come back at all or just reply it's agency business. Getting a written confirmation whether or not the Airline transfered the owed part of the salary is impossible (Note: Cultural reasons here, no foul play from the airline).
Eventually via a network of honest acquaintances and (semi) legal advisors bank transfer records were obtained and T.A.C.A.N. Racetracks threatened. Cash came home, we're talking ~80k USD/pilot in the most extreme case. Substantial costs accrued along the way for the helping team and middlemen.
Last and this year Spicy Chinese Air Lines have a policy of only paying 30% of the due salary during vacation time (holidays home) and later releasing the remaining 70% upon pilot's return to PRC. For those not coming back, all the missing money would be sent as a lump sum with the final settlement. This happened to quite a few pilots for varied reasons, times are not easy.
Somehow T.A.C.A.N. Racetracks delay that last payment for a few months, later claim they never received it. This finds the foreign pilot home with his work visa cancelled, 6-9 months after he had left the country. Emails sent to the Airline HR don't come back at all or just reply it's agency business. Getting a written confirmation whether or not the Airline transfered the owed part of the salary is impossible (Note: Cultural reasons here, no foul play from the airline).
Eventually via a network of honest acquaintances and (semi) legal advisors bank transfer records were obtained and T.A.C.A.N. Racetracks threatened. Cash came home, we're talking ~80k USD/pilot in the most extreme case. Substantial costs accrued along the way for the helping team and middlemen.
Last edited by FlightDetent; 21st Nov 2021 at 10:36.
