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Contract agency rants and Kudos, Vietman, Korean, Asiana, Rishworth

Old 6th Apr 2017, 01:13
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Korean air foreign pilots management has unilaterally modified the foreign pilots' contracts by a simple email yesterday. They are not allowing travel on your time off to any other destination than your designated base. Up until yesterday, your could request up to the day of travel, any destination the airlines flies to. Most of the foreign pilots working for KAL were attracted by the convenience of flexible scheduling and confirmed travel in and out of ICN to any destination on their network that they fly to at least twice weekly. It is specified black on white in the employment contract.

The salary at KAL is way less than the neighboring Chinese airlines. Most of the pilots at KAL decided to join the company for these scheduling perks instead of the money. Now these perks are disappearing. Decision are made unilaterally by foreign pilots management and contracts agencies do nothing but cashing their monthly 1000$ commission and answering the pilots emails by saying: We are very sorry to hear that. We hope a solution can be found soon.

Just wanted to warn any pilots in the process of joining the company. KAL is not the same as before and the contract can be modified overnight by a department with very poor managerial skills.

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Old 24th Apr 2017, 13:59
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Korean air foreign pilots management has unilaterally modified the foreign pilots' contracts by a simple email yesterday. They are not allowing travel on your time off to any other destination than your designated base. Up until yesterday, your could request up to the day of travel, any destination the airlines flies to. Most of the foreign pilots working for KAL were attracted by the convenience of flexible scheduling and confirmed travel in and out of ICN to any destination on their network that they fly to at least twice weekly. It is specified black on white in the employment contract.

The salary at KAL is way less than the neighboring Chinese airlines. Most of the pilots at KAL decided to join the company for these scheduling perks instead of the money. Now these perks are disappearing. Decision are made unilaterally by foreign pilots management and contracts agencies do nothing but cashing their monthly 1000$ commission and answering the pilots emails by saying: We are very sorry to hear that. We hope a solution can be found soon.

Just wanted to warn any pilots in the process of joining the company. KAL is not the same as before and the contract can be modified overnight by a department with very poor managerial skills.

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Thanks for the heads up!
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Old 7th Jun 2017, 19:47
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Good, hopefully they remain off line...what a useless bunch
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Old 25th Jun 2017, 15:20
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Any insights on Quick Aviation with HNA?
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Old 21st Jul 2017, 16:47
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Korean air foreign pilots management has unilaterally modified the foreign pilots' contracts by a simple email yesterday. They are not allowing travel on your time off to any other destination than your designated base. Up until yesterday, your could request up to the day of travel, any destination the airlines flies to. Most of the foreign pilots working for KAL were attracted by the convenience of flexible scheduling and confirmed travel in and out of ICN to any destination on their network that they fly to at least twice weekly. It is specified black on white in the employment contract.

The salary at KAL is way less than the neighboring Chinese airlines. Most of the pilots at KAL decided to join the company for these scheduling perks instead of the money. Now these perks are disappearing. Decision are made unilaterally by foreign pilots management and contracts agencies do nothing but cashing their monthly 1000$ commission and answering the pilots emails by saying: We are very sorry to hear that. We hope a solution can be found soon.

Just wanted to warn any pilots in the process of joining the company. KAL is not the same as before and the contract can be modified overnight by a department with very poor managerial skills.

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Cheers! Ta for the info
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Old 24th Jul 2017, 06:36
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Fci ,

Shockingly bad ,

Offer less money than other brokers , poor support , limited knowledge of aviation .

Re vn , they do as vn tell them , make no attempt to represent the pilots interest .
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Old 5th Aug 2017, 10:25
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seems good old times are over

I was with Rishworth, DPI and PARC in 3 different asian airlines.

Problems were somehow everywhere and the help was not really much. Most disappointing was PARC, they took just a copy of the chinese argument, no reflection on my problem at all. I have turned my back on them.

It is still a business issue. As a pilot we are just a small partner, easier to screw down than an big one with much more revenue making.
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Old 19th Aug 2017, 04:32
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CCL Aviation

Any first hand experience with this agency and willing to share ? Thnks
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Old 21st Aug 2017, 05:06
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Antipoean Project?

These guys are advertising for 737 freight crews in China. Any idea who they are?
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Old 21st Aug 2017, 07:46
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Hi Wiz
Give me a PM.

Cheers.
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Old 7th Sep 2017, 11:23
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Originally Posted by ExpatPilotKAL View Post
Korean air foreign pilots management has unilaterally modified the foreign pilots' contracts by a simple email yesterday. They are not allowing travel on your time off to any other destination than your designated base. Up until yesterday, your could request up to the day of travel, any destination the airlines flies to. Most of the foreign pilots working for KAL were attracted by the convenience of flexible scheduling and confirmed travel in and out of ICN to any destination on their network that they fly to at least twice weekly. It is specified black on white in the employment contract.

The salary at KAL is way less than the neighboring Chinese airlines. Most of the pilots at KAL decided to join the company for these scheduling perks instead of the money. Now these perks are disappearing. Decision are made unilaterally by foreign pilots management and contracts agencies do nothing but cashing their monthly 1000$ commission and answering the pilots emails by saying: We are very sorry to hear that. We hope a solution can be found soon.

Just wanted to warn any pilots in the process of joining the company. KAL is not the same as before and the contract can be modified overnight by a department with very poor managerial skills.

ExpatpilotKAL
Thanks for the heads up. Has there been any further developments to this and how are Rishworth responding to this?
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Old 7th Oct 2017, 09:53
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Any input on Guangxin agency???
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Old 11th Oct 2017, 10:22
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I recently asked both KAL management and my contract company for recent developments and received no answers...
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Old 13th Oct 2017, 05:58
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Is it too bad in China if you start the process with 2 agencies but than you pick the one that actually got you there??
I can explain better like you send your resume and paperwork to 2 or more agencies and always gonna have some that are faster and treat you better so when you finally come the time to start you pick the best.
Or you have to really start with one and hold on that one till the end???
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Old 30th Oct 2017, 16:49
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Anyone have first hand info on Longreach or VOR holdings or APAS, in regards to Chinese contracts? One agency in particular (I won't name them) takes an awful long time to respond to my emails. Makes me wonder how much support I'll get when I'm over there.....

Any insights or recommendations would be appreciated. PM's are welcome too
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Old 31st Oct 2017, 14:31
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VOR = no support, ever
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Old 1st Nov 2017, 04:01
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VOR absolutely useless, I just had dealings with Longreach for Xiamen Airlines and they been fantastic
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Old 9th Nov 2017, 07:59
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I noticed that vor holdings website is down except the home page, the page with job offers has been offline for days now... http://vorholdings.com/pilotjobs/
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Old 14th Nov 2017, 22:57
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I'm with longreach and I can say they have been very supportive in all areas. Jacqueline is awesome as far as support in china goes.
There will always be some areas that aren't perfect and you can't please everyone with certain aspects. But if you want a contract in china I would happly recommend, longreach will always do best to support .
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Old 15th Nov 2017, 16:40
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Pick wisely and if its run by pilots, even better.

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