Directions to Renewing your RTR(P) For those having trouble
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Hello People.
I have a query about RTR(P) renewal. To get a life-time validity on the licence, part-1 & part-2 are required or just part-1 would suffice. Is the schedule for 2012 examinations already out?
I have a query about RTR(P) renewal. To get a life-time validity on the licence, part-1 & part-2 are required or just part-1 would suffice. Is the schedule for 2012 examinations already out?
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Hi,
I need an urgent advice regarding renewed RTR(P).
My Old RTR(P) was suppose to expire on 25th Nov, for which
I applied for renewal 1 and half months back. Today I recieved renewed RTR
with new RTR(P) number. Now do I have to get new RTR number endorsed on FRTOL or can I fly without getting it endorsed. I am suppose to fly in first week of December and I am not sure if I can fly without getting new RTR number endorsed on FRTOL.
Please advice.
Thanks
I need an urgent advice regarding renewed RTR(P).
My Old RTR(P) was suppose to expire on 25th Nov, for which
I applied for renewal 1 and half months back. Today I recieved renewed RTR
with new RTR(P) number. Now do I have to get new RTR number endorsed on FRTOL or can I fly without getting it endorsed. I am suppose to fly in first week of December and I am not sure if I can fly without getting new RTR number endorsed on FRTOL.
Please advice.
Thanks
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FRTOL
Hello all the aviators...
I am having a RTR(P) which is also called as COP.Now I need to get FRTOL from DGCA on the basis of my newly released COP. Over internet or DGCA website there is no proper information about the FRTOL either they are saying about COP or they are just simply saying about FRTOL without any details.
I need to fly In india so I must need a FRTOL from DGCA. Can anyone here help me out with which documents should I submit to DGCA to get my FRTOL...It will be a great help...All these documents should be attached or I need to submit original alone with the xerox copys...
Some are saying I need to make a DD of 5000/ and for your help now I know on whose favor I must do the DD.
Please reply as soon as possible because I need to fly from India...It will b a great help...
I am having a RTR(P) which is also called as COP.Now I need to get FRTOL from DGCA on the basis of my newly released COP. Over internet or DGCA website there is no proper information about the FRTOL either they are saying about COP or they are just simply saying about FRTOL without any details.
I need to fly In india so I must need a FRTOL from DGCA. Can anyone here help me out with which documents should I submit to DGCA to get my FRTOL...It will be a great help...All these documents should be attached or I need to submit original alone with the xerox copys...
Some are saying I need to make a DD of 5000/ and for your help now I know on whose favor I must do the DD.
Please reply as soon as possible because I need to fly from India...It will b a great help...
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Renewal of expired RTR (p) , carrying Philippines CPL
Hii i did my training from Philippines i got my CPL on June 2011 valid till may 2012 and Philippine FRTOL (RROC FROM NTC) valid till may 2016 . I came back to India and applied for RTR (P) so i got permit valid for 1 year only which expired on may 2012 . further i applied for conversion of my foreign CPL license to Indian CPL which i got converted successfully in November 2013 and validity for both Indian CPL and FRTOL is for 5 years .Iam holding a current class 1 Indian medical although my foreign class 1 medical already expired on may 2012 as Philippine class 1 medical and cpl validity is same for 1 year only. but my 30 hours of flying in last 3 years is expiring on Aug 2014
My queries are:
1) whether i can still renew my RTR (P) and extend its validity up to 20 years
2) if i have current indian licence and frtol based on it i can get rtr for 20 years
3) W hat other options i have to renew my rtr
please suggest:
My queries are:
1) whether i can still renew my RTR (P) and extend its validity up to 20 years
2) if i have current indian licence and frtol based on it i can get rtr for 20 years
3) W hat other options i have to renew my rtr
please suggest:
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Hopefully you have already got it sorted out.But if you haven't let me give you a suggestion:
Look at Post number 1 on this thread by Pier39lab.Download the form.Get attested copies of all the documents and send it to them on the address provided by Pier39lab.It is very likely that you will get a letter stating all the procedures that you haven't followed and that need to be followed.Don't forget the logbook pages and the demand draft.It could take a couple of months for them to reply.
I don't know the exact procedure myself, but I'm reasonably sure that the above indirect method would work.They normally reply back and list the reasons why your application has been denied.
There is no need to panic.If you want to sort out this mess you are going to have to be patient.
Hopefully someone else here is able to guide you more precisely.
Look at Post number 1 on this thread by Pier39lab.Download the form.Get attested copies of all the documents and send it to them on the address provided by Pier39lab.It is very likely that you will get a letter stating all the procedures that you haven't followed and that need to be followed.Don't forget the logbook pages and the demand draft.It could take a couple of months for them to reply.
I don't know the exact procedure myself, but I'm reasonably sure that the above indirect method would work.They normally reply back and list the reasons why your application has been denied.
There is no need to panic.If you want to sort out this mess you are going to have to be patient.
Hopefully someone else here is able to guide you more precisely.
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hello, i would like to pitch in what i just found regarding RTR permit that is RTR(P)...this is what i found in the check list on WPC website...and i think this should be helpful regarding the requirements for initial issue,extension and renewals on all types of RTR...
kindly correct me if i am wrong...but this is what i have come across...and particularly to the interest of people holding rtr(p)... there is no mention about 30 hours in past 3 years for rtr(p)
As on 22.03.2010
Required documents for appearing in examinations and Issuance / Renewal of COP Licences :
Copies of alll required documents should be attested by gazetted officers of State governments or Central Governments service
Demand Draft /Banker’s Cheque should be in favour of PAO (HQ ), DOT, New Delhi
1) Issue of RTR (Permit)
a) Application Form – AF1& form annexure 1-A
b) Attested copy of foreign FRTOL (commonwealth countries and Philippines)
c) Attested copy of Flight Crew Licences (CPL/ATPL/FEL).
d) Attested copy of Passport and Visa
e) DD of rupees Five Thousands (5000/-).
f) Passport size photographs- 02 Nos.
g) Issued for 20 years subject to the validity of foreign FRTOL & Flight Crew License
2) Extension of RTR Permit
a) Application Form – COP 23 , Annexure 1-A
b) Attested copy of foreign FRTOL (commonwealth countries and Philippines)
c) Attested copy of valid Flight Crew Licences (CPL/ATPL/FEL) of same admin and Experience Certificate of 30 Hrs.of flying in an Aero Mobile Station or an experience of not less than three months in a station working in the Aero-Mobile service.
d) DD of rupees Five Thousands (5000/-)
e) Passport size photographs- 02 Nos.
3) Issue of RTR (A) new licence
(A) Qualify in the RTR(A) full examination
(B) Pay Fee of Rupees Five Thousands (5000/-) for twenty years & Rupees ten Thousands (10000/-) for life time
(C) License will be issued from concerned RLO
Documents required for appearing in the examination
a) Application Form COP 1
b) Certificate of Character and Nationality
c) Educational certificate showing the Date of Birth
d) Demand Draft of rupees Five Hundred (500/-)
e) Online registration acknowledgement slip
f) 2 photo graphs
4) Issue for RTR (C) licence against foreign FRTOL( Commonwealth countries and Phillipines)
(A) Qualify in the RTR(A) part -1 examination
(B) Pay Fee of Rupees Five Thousands (5000/-) for License which will be valid for 20 years subject to validity of FRTOL
(C) License will be issued from concerned WPC
Documents required for appearing in the examination
a) Application Form COP 1
b) Certificate of Character and Nationality
c) Educational certificate which showing the Date of birth
d) Demand Draft of rupees Five Hundred (500/-)
e) Online registration acknowledgement slip
f) 2 photo graphs
Cont…..
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Documents required for issue of license to WPC Wing
a. Form Annexure 1-A
b. Attested copy of valid FRTOL of commonwealth countries and Philippines
c. Demand Draft of rupees Five Thousands (5000/-)
d. 2 photo graphs
5) Renewal of RTR (A)
a) Application Form – COP 23 , Annexure 1-A
b) Experience Certificate of 30 Hrs.of flying in an Aero Mobile Station or an experience of not less than three months in a station working in the Aero-Mobile service or renewal by test as per order in force.
c) DD of rupees Five Thousands (5000) for 20 years and Ten Thousands (10000 ) for life time { late fess (if any)}
d) On line registration acknowledgement slip
e) Attested copy of Date of Birth certificate (DOB)
6) Renewal of RTR (C)
a) Application Form – COP 23 , Annexure 1-A
b) Attested copy of valid Foreign FRTOL (commonwealth countries and Philippines)
c) Experience Certificate or Attested copy of log book of flying for 30 hours in last years.
d) DD of rupees Five Thousands (5000/-) + late fess (if any)
e) Passport size photos-02 Nos.
7) GMDSS(GOC) - Renewal
a) Application Form – COP 23
b) Attested copies of CDC or Company Experience Certificate (6 months of last 5 years)
or renewal by test as per order in force.
c) Demand Draft of rupees Five Hundreds (500/-)
d) On line registration acknowledgement slip
8) Grant of Amateur License
After passing of examination conducted by various Wireless Monitoring Stations (W.M.S) of this Ministry and receipt of case sheet from W.M.S, candidates will be asked to provide;
a) 2 Passport size photos
b) Demand Draft (For Grade II and IIR – Rs 60, For Grade I – Rs 100, For Advance Rs 125)
Note :Licences will be issued subject to Inter Ministerial clearance.License fee is under revision.
9) Renewal of Amateur Radio License
a) Application (Form Annexure-7) with declaration of making applicable contacts in amateur radio as per rule.
b) Demand Draft (For Grade II and IIR – Rs 60, For Grade I – Rs 100, For Advance Rs 125)
c) Late fees as per rules
10) Special Permission as Mobile / Radio Direction Finding / Special Call sign / Temporary shifting of station
a) Application
b) Permission from Institution / Local Administration
c) Individual Consent
d) Require Fees (as per rules)
Cont….
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11) Renewal of Maritime COP Licences - RTG, SND, SPL, RTIM, FST, ROCG, RTR (M))
a) Application Form – COP 23
b) Attested copies of CDC or Company Experience Certificate (3 months in last 3 years)
c) Demand Draft of rupees Fifty (50/-)
d) Late fees as per rules.
Note : Duplicate copy of RTR(A) and RTR(C) or their renewals /extension may be obtained from the issuing office after payment of One Thousand Rupees (Rs. 1,000/-). Refer to rules for further details.
kindly correct me if i am wrong...but this is what i have come across...and particularly to the interest of people holding rtr(p)... there is no mention about 30 hours in past 3 years for rtr(p)
As on 22.03.2010
Required documents for appearing in examinations and Issuance / Renewal of COP Licences :
Copies of alll required documents should be attested by gazetted officers of State governments or Central Governments service
Demand Draft /Banker’s Cheque should be in favour of PAO (HQ ), DOT, New Delhi
1) Issue of RTR (Permit)
a) Application Form – AF1& form annexure 1-A
b) Attested copy of foreign FRTOL (commonwealth countries and Philippines)
c) Attested copy of Flight Crew Licences (CPL/ATPL/FEL).
d) Attested copy of Passport and Visa
e) DD of rupees Five Thousands (5000/-).
f) Passport size photographs- 02 Nos.
g) Issued for 20 years subject to the validity of foreign FRTOL & Flight Crew License
2) Extension of RTR Permit
a) Application Form – COP 23 , Annexure 1-A
b) Attested copy of foreign FRTOL (commonwealth countries and Philippines)
c) Attested copy of valid Flight Crew Licences (CPL/ATPL/FEL) of same admin and Experience Certificate of 30 Hrs.of flying in an Aero Mobile Station or an experience of not less than three months in a station working in the Aero-Mobile service.
d) DD of rupees Five Thousands (5000/-)
e) Passport size photographs- 02 Nos.
3) Issue of RTR (A) new licence
(A) Qualify in the RTR(A) full examination
(B) Pay Fee of Rupees Five Thousands (5000/-) for twenty years & Rupees ten Thousands (10000/-) for life time
(C) License will be issued from concerned RLO
Documents required for appearing in the examination
a) Application Form COP 1
b) Certificate of Character and Nationality
c) Educational certificate showing the Date of Birth
d) Demand Draft of rupees Five Hundred (500/-)
e) Online registration acknowledgement slip
f) 2 photo graphs
4) Issue for RTR (C) licence against foreign FRTOL( Commonwealth countries and Phillipines)
(A) Qualify in the RTR(A) part -1 examination
(B) Pay Fee of Rupees Five Thousands (5000/-) for License which will be valid for 20 years subject to validity of FRTOL
(C) License will be issued from concerned WPC
Documents required for appearing in the examination
a) Application Form COP 1
b) Certificate of Character and Nationality
c) Educational certificate which showing the Date of birth
d) Demand Draft of rupees Five Hundred (500/-)
e) Online registration acknowledgement slip
f) 2 photo graphs
Cont…..
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Documents required for issue of license to WPC Wing
a. Form Annexure 1-A
b. Attested copy of valid FRTOL of commonwealth countries and Philippines
c. Demand Draft of rupees Five Thousands (5000/-)
d. 2 photo graphs
5) Renewal of RTR (A)
a) Application Form – COP 23 , Annexure 1-A
b) Experience Certificate of 30 Hrs.of flying in an Aero Mobile Station or an experience of not less than three months in a station working in the Aero-Mobile service or renewal by test as per order in force.
c) DD of rupees Five Thousands (5000) for 20 years and Ten Thousands (10000 ) for life time { late fess (if any)}
d) On line registration acknowledgement slip
e) Attested copy of Date of Birth certificate (DOB)
6) Renewal of RTR (C)
a) Application Form – COP 23 , Annexure 1-A
b) Attested copy of valid Foreign FRTOL (commonwealth countries and Philippines)
c) Experience Certificate or Attested copy of log book of flying for 30 hours in last years.
d) DD of rupees Five Thousands (5000/-) + late fess (if any)
e) Passport size photos-02 Nos.
7) GMDSS(GOC) - Renewal
a) Application Form – COP 23
b) Attested copies of CDC or Company Experience Certificate (6 months of last 5 years)
or renewal by test as per order in force.
c) Demand Draft of rupees Five Hundreds (500/-)
d) On line registration acknowledgement slip
8) Grant of Amateur License
After passing of examination conducted by various Wireless Monitoring Stations (W.M.S) of this Ministry and receipt of case sheet from W.M.S, candidates will be asked to provide;
a) 2 Passport size photos
b) Demand Draft (For Grade II and IIR – Rs 60, For Grade I – Rs 100, For Advance Rs 125)
Note :Licences will be issued subject to Inter Ministerial clearance.License fee is under revision.
9) Renewal of Amateur Radio License
a) Application (Form Annexure-7) with declaration of making applicable contacts in amateur radio as per rule.
b) Demand Draft (For Grade II and IIR – Rs 60, For Grade I – Rs 100, For Advance Rs 125)
c) Late fees as per rules
10) Special Permission as Mobile / Radio Direction Finding / Special Call sign / Temporary shifting of station
a) Application
b) Permission from Institution / Local Administration
c) Individual Consent
d) Require Fees (as per rules)
Cont….
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11) Renewal of Maritime COP Licences - RTG, SND, SPL, RTIM, FST, ROCG, RTR (M))
a) Application Form – COP 23
b) Attested copies of CDC or Company Experience Certificate (3 months in last 3 years)
c) Demand Draft of rupees Fifty (50/-)
d) Late fees as per rules.
Note : Duplicate copy of RTR(A) and RTR(C) or their renewals /extension may be obtained from the issuing office after payment of One Thousand Rupees (Rs. 1,000/-). Refer to rules for further details.
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Foreign frotl converstion
I have a valid CPL and FRTOL and class 1 medical from maldives.
As per rule FCL 3 2010,direct conversion of foreign FRTOL To RTR(A)
CPL and FRTOl from common wealth countries and phillippines.
Real Issue is maldives left common wealth in oct 2016.
Question:
1.As being a former member common wealth country direct conversion will be accepted?
2.where i can more detail regarding conversion?
3.what are the option for getting Indian RTR
Any help or guidance wil be higly appreciated.
As per rule FCL 3 2010,direct conversion of foreign FRTOL To RTR(A)
CPL and FRTOl from common wealth countries and phillippines.
Real Issue is maldives left common wealth in oct 2016.
Question:
1.As being a former member common wealth country direct conversion will be accepted?
2.where i can more detail regarding conversion?
3.what are the option for getting Indian RTR
Any help or guidance wil be higly appreciated.
