Indonesian Aviation

[southernskyz]

Harilal,

Soorry, I mis-understood your previous post.

Since money is secondary, then you should feel really satisfied with
a few hundred dollars a month as a co-pilot.

The Captain might send a person home if they turn up to work with not
using any deodarant.
Then a person can say, "show me the money".

Go for it, if you want to work for 600 a month.
Why not

[Saint Jack]

Harilal: Your timing may be fortunate, I've heard that Susi Air has recently taken delivery of two factory-new Pilatus Porters, if this is correct then they may be looking for additional crews - go for it.

[Harilal]

@southernskyz.

$600 is a bit low but i heard that they provide for accommodation and food, money is secondary that does not mean i have to pay from my pocket to buy deodorant!! lol

@saintjack
Thanks a lot for the info much appreciated!!

Happy landings

Harry

Update : @saintjack after taking a closer look at the thread it seems that SUSI and me being an Indian does not go hand in hand or is it that they dont employ F/O's with indian licenses( in that case i have a foreign license!!!) ? Clarification of this would be appreciated, i hope the situation changes, i would really not mind the $600 + F/A!!!

[rampstalker]

new rules, panic i think

I read this and chuckle, Mandla had a good record and I never felt at risk when sat in the hull. Size of fleet is not a measure of the operations safety, can never be. This will only push organisations to expand and over stretch an allready creaking operation no doubt. Some little man in an office thought that one up.

these boys have the wrong end of the stick again. Indo aviation is I am afraid very reluctant to listen to and follow well worn, tried advise, Oh well, I am sure untill a fatal takes place with a family member involved then they might sit up and take note.

still its better than the trains, phew, even I would not put the mother in law on one of them

[rampstalker]

scary

The crew reports thats the smoke is a normal starting situation. Oh dear then better get onto CFM about our engines then. From all accounts they must be defective as none of them smoke on start up.

[planebored]

Only 10% correct?

Oh STOLFLYER, if only this were true! This airline and the owner(s) are a business disgrace and should be shut down. You need to see what happens at Nusawiry where they are out of sight of other airlines to know what goes on. It is all "uang terimahkasih". The landing lights are all installed only for Susi. New windsocks all the time only for Susi. And most important, unlimited use of the runway and terminal and safety facilities only for Susi. Circuit training is constant and a discussion of that and how it is fraught with safety and DGCA violations along with the campaign to stop it due to noise is elsewhere on this site.

But you have to reali\ze that since she started ripping off fishermen in Pangandaran and Batu Karas, Susi has considered herself above the rest despite all the humble beginnings tales in the Indonesian press: blogs, Femina, etc. Her husband being minor nobility is automatically above the law anyway and in Indonesia, European nobility are treated with kid gloves, not what you'd expect. The DepHak is so cowardly about Susi: the DirJen Imigrasi has told the KanIm for Ciamis which covers Pangandaran to stay "hands off" Susi pilots. SO if you're a young white male in the Pangandaran area, you can get away with anything and Auntie Susi will buy you out of trouble. But don't quit Susi and work for another company. There's a NZ pilot who was di-fitnah by Susi (his repotation damaged). And another poor NZ guy who died in hospital in Jakarta, no attention from the company.

Just ask Pak Dede DirJen Imigrasi, he used to be KaKanIm Tasikmalaya. He was forced to leave Susi people alone. For detail on abuse at Nusawiru, the fat guy with the little radio mic tacked to his chest, Hendra Gunawan is the one to ask... if he's talking. Cijulang residents have seen him get envelopes from Susi right on the apron - not the one she wears in the kitchen either...

planebored with susi air

[aseanaero]

Rampstalker , we have a lot of airport mice, cockroaches and termites , when they aren't eating aircraft spare parts (how else can spare parts disappear overnight) they occassionally sleep inside the cowls of CFM56 engines , so smoke is normal as they get sucked , minced and burned in the engine.

[aseanaero]

We just purchased 5 non flying helicopters to break up for spares , in spite of assurances that all spares are in the warehouse 2 shipsets of avionics and instruments never turned up , bloody airport mice again ... it's impossible they were stolen as the parts are in a warehouse under armed patrol hmmm

[rampstalker]

how safe is safe

Ive just been surfong the net about unsafe operations in Indonesia. Big surprise is the fact that the flag carrier Garuda gets much mention. Ive flown with them many times. Feel safe yah i do. Cabins look good the exterior looks good. Crew messages i can understand. Polite yah. Very. How come this Batavia gets no mention. Real scruffy cabins. Dirty exteriors. Half the time no APU. Cant say i understand the crew calls. Rude yah you bet.
Late is normal. If i cant get Garuda seats then i will wait. I feel safer anyway. Beter late than never getting there.

Any comments from front seaters with this mob

[rampstalker]

Rats or mice

Could be rats or could be mice. From my walk over the ramp at terminal 1 @CGK i spoted a pair of rats that would have eaten any cat that came near. Yeah perhaps the same as theem that ate your parts. I think even an RB211 would have a job to injest these buggers let alone CFM56

[aseanaero]

OKSIBIL

Dear All,

I'm doing a quick feasability study for Oksibil but getting conflicting data

AVINDO airport chart advises TODA 940m TORA 900m ASDA 920m LDA 900m elevation 4,330ft but I heard that the runway has been extended to 1,200metres

The chart I have is 2010 , can anyway tell me the correct distances ?

Also I'm told the runway is a 3% slope ?

[Maverick 03]

Citilink Garuda

Hello everyone

I would appreciate if anyone can shed some light on this LCC arm of Garuda. I heard they are having some openings for A-320 rated chaps.

[captjns]

Mixed stories and opinions regarding expats in Indoland.

[captplaystation]

rampstalker,

Had a colleague on contract to Garuda last year, he reckoned the operation was far from safe.
No SOP's, no CRM, disregard for weather hazards, crew rostering very poor with attendant risk of fatigue etc etc.
Think Lionairs record speaks for itself, and boats /trains/ buses seem to be just as "safe"
Sorry, but just doesn't seem to be a safe country for travel in any shape or form.

Maverick03, another thread on here suggests that unions have bullied Garuda into stopping contracting expats. Like India,as I am sure you know, when they run out of pilots again that will no doubt change back, but for the moment is the current state of affairs.

[Massey058]

I'm doing a quick feasability study for Oksibil but getting conflicting data

AVINDO airport chart advises TODA 940m TORA 900m ASDA 920m LDA 900m elevation 4,330ft but I heard that the runway has been extended to 1,200metres

The chart I have is 2010 , can anyway tell me the correct distances ?

Also I'm told the runway is a 3% slope ?

Still no concrete information out there as I'm pretty sure works are ongoing. But it is 4000 feet elevation and 1200m. Certainly not 3% slope though, It did have a 1% downslope to the west when it was shorter but can't be any greater than that now.

West is the preferred take-off path due terrain but wind doesn't always favour that option in the basin. The current Jepp coordinate for WAJO is actually incorrect by about 2 nm or so. It may have been corrected in recent updates but I haven't been there for a while.

Trigana are going in there quite a bit in the ATR 42 nowadays, Deraya took the BAe ATP in a while ago and Pelita regularly run the Dash 7 in there as you probably already know (length obviously not an issue for that wonderful beast).

[freightdriver]

Garuda and its low cost wing operate on a very strick co. procedure + all Boeing manuals (FCOM/FCTM) rostering are well regulated min 8 days off guaranteed. min rest hour required which is 15 hrs, well above the min 9 hrs required by the local regs. so i dunno what your friend was talking about.

i know for a fact that the Low cost wing is seeking experienced A320 crews, pm me.....


take care you all!

[captplaystation]

Did you actually work for them ? he did, unfortunately for him, & he had no axe to grind, he was just telling it like it is, by way of warning to anyone taken in by the "strict company /Boeing procedures, nice rostering Bla Bla Bla"
Talking the talk is one thing, walking the walk ,as far as he led me to believe, didn't follow suit.
I have no horse in this race, but listened to his analysis of his time there, & most assuredly crossed it off my "list of things to do".
Haven't heard too many expat pilots who have been actually employed there rushing to their defence

[brasmelzuit]

I worked for Garuda for one year. My only complaint was people smoke everywhere at work. Nothin' about breaking any regulation. Nice hotel during stop over, cheap food..
They didn't extend my contract? Fine by me...I could easily grab another one elsewhere in asia