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maybe because it's cheaper to let 'em burn rather than trying hard to counter the fires? since when the indonesians know how to extinguish forest fires? im sure malaysian and singaporean dont have many things to complaint about!!
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Someone said to me that as most of these fires are deliberately lit for burning off you would probably end up getting your waterbomber torched for trying to put them out , probably some truth in that.
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Aviation Paint Stripper ?
Can anyone advise of a company that stocks aviation paint stripper in Jakarta or Bandung ? I need about 200 litres , thanks
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'Wamena Triangle' bites again
Wamena (Indonesia's version of the Bermuda Triangle) ate another aircraft at lunchtime today , an AN-26B , the aircraft is heavily damaged but reports are the crew is ok
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Operator is Manunggal using a Georgian crew, aircraft was carrying rice and lost control on landing
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CASR or Advisory on Aircraft Age and Cycle Limits on Import
Can anyone advise which CASR or Advisory refers to Aircraft Age and Cycle Limits on Import ?
Word of mouth is 20 yrs and less than 50,000 cycle life limit on pax aircraft for imports and a max life of 35 yrs / 70,000cycles for existing aircraft but I want to find the actual regulation
Update : Found it , Ministry Decree KM 5/2006
Word of mouth is 20 yrs and less than 50,000 cycle life limit on pax aircraft for imports and a max life of 35 yrs / 70,000cycles for existing aircraft but I want to find the actual regulation
Update : Found it , Ministry Decree KM 5/2006
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will they be hiring type rated ATR 72 F/Os?
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B737NG Contracts Jakarta via Rishworth
Anyone got a rough idea what these latest gross income are for line Capts,TRI and TRE ?
Is there housing or schooling assistance in addition?
Much appreciated.
Is there housing or schooling assistance in addition?
Much appreciated.
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Aseanaero,
You heading off to Halim (or did you) to watch >50% of our air force fighting capability hanging around the capital for some exercises?
Permits issue...
The DGCA may give all the paperwork you need, but intra-provincial flights have the local provincial transportation directorate asking for hideous amounts of money...
Even the DGCA is complaining about these guys!
You know Indonesia, anything that's not scheduled = opportunity to scalp for some envelopes!
Carrier A: line Cpts $4000 basic, $40 - $50 per hour, plus other stuff like attendance/productivity allowances, 80 - 90hrs a month, 50 guaranteed.
Carrier B: line Cpts $3700 - $4000 basic, $15 - $20 per hour. 60-100hrs, plus some other allowances.
Carrier C: line Cpt Expats $4000 inclusive of 100hrs monthly, plus some housing assistance/allowance (others here would probably help out on the details of this one).
And then there is...
Carrier D: line Cpt $3000, $10 - $25 per hour, hours >100 monthly.
Carrier E: line Cpt. $4000, $30 - 45 per hour, but <75hrs monthly (sometimes it gets down to 40hrs).
A-E are jet mainliners. Others I dunno... doesn't include NG operators...
Someone said to me, better off going without those stuff... some carrier might use it to tie you down further with it to do the "unthinkable".
PK-KAR
You heading off to Halim (or did you) to watch >50% of our air force fighting capability hanging around the capital for some exercises?
Also the massive forest fires in Kalimantan would be an opprotunity for waterbombing , anyone have any insight on these issues ?
The DGCA may give all the paperwork you need, but intra-provincial flights have the local provincial transportation directorate asking for hideous amounts of money...
Even the DGCA is complaining about these guys!
You know Indonesia, anything that's not scheduled = opportunity to scalp for some envelopes!
Anyone got a rough idea what these latest gross income are for line Capts,TRI and TRE ?
Carrier B: line Cpts $3700 - $4000 basic, $15 - $20 per hour. 60-100hrs, plus some other allowances.
Carrier C: line Cpt Expats $4000 inclusive of 100hrs monthly, plus some housing assistance/allowance (others here would probably help out on the details of this one).
And then there is...
Carrier D: line Cpt $3000, $10 - $25 per hour, hours >100 monthly.
Carrier E: line Cpt. $4000, $30 - 45 per hour, but <75hrs monthly (sometimes it gets down to 40hrs).
A-E are jet mainliners. Others I dunno... doesn't include NG operators...
Is there housing or schooling assistance in addition?
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To ALL foreigner pilots, if you come here to work and moan about pretty much everything in Indonesian aviation, don't come.
And if you come here to work and disrespect Indonesian people, don't come.
Look at susi air pilots very good example, they can't even respect themselves.
And if you come here to work and disrespect Indonesian people, don't come.
Look at susi air pilots very good example, they can't even respect themselves.
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What a joke !
Yeah man,
Does anyone know what the Suzi Air pilots put up with in Indo ! Well, they put up with so much crap it`s unbelievable. They only hire 200hr guys with no experience at all - good luck. Flight salary is $600/ month- yes that`s right. After 1 yr, you get $1,000/month. You would have rocks in your head and no respect for yourself if you work for these bent operators.
Don`t be used and abused all u guys out there. Have a bit of self worth for god sake !
Does anyone know what the Suzi Air pilots put up with in Indo ! Well, they put up with so much crap it`s unbelievable. They only hire 200hr guys with no experience at all - good luck. Flight salary is $600/ month- yes that`s right. After 1 yr, you get $1,000/month. You would have rocks in your head and no respect for yourself if you work for these bent operators.
Don`t be used and abused all u guys out there. Have a bit of self worth for god sake !
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I flew an Airfast HS748 in the early 90's and remember their Dak in the pre dawn at Seletar with a foot of blue flame from each engine. A beautiful sight. The plane hardly flew except for the occasional Dart engine ferry as it was regarded as the boss' toy. I did try to put together a business proposal to fit the a/c in 1940's style and fly tourists linking in with their Orient Express journey in SE Asia but Airfast weren't interested.
Is anyone in contact with Seletar based pilots of that period (Suryanto, Arnold etc?), maybe you could pm me if you have an email for them.
Is anyone in contact with Seletar based pilots of that period (Suryanto, Arnold etc?), maybe you could pm me if you have an email for them.
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KAR , yep , I did see the SU-27s , F-16s , F-5s (didn't think any were still flying) and Hawks , the occasion was TNI-AU's birthday. Good to see them getting into the air and making some noise and those Sukhois are BIG !
Freight - The Airfast Dak is now parked in front of GMFs offices with an old time Garuda paint job , looking pretty , we tried to buy it for $20,000 and Garuda got it for $25,000 . It wasn't a bad airframe but it hadn't flown for 8 yrs and needed a lot of work.
Freight - The Airfast Dak is now parked in front of GMFs offices with an old time Garuda paint job , looking pretty , we tried to buy it for $20,000 and Garuda got it for $25,000 . It wasn't a bad airframe but it hadn't flown for 8 yrs and needed a lot of work.
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To aseanaero:
I saw it myself it looks pretty good! nice work!
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that is one part the other is susi air pilots fight with each other its a big circus.
50 millions Rp for each pilot with no work permit!
I saw it myself it looks pretty good! nice work!
To latitude:
that is one part the other is susi air pilots fight with each other its a big circus.
50 millions Rp for each pilot with no work permit!
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A GA Center for Indonesia
Heard someone is proposing to keep the Seleparang Airport in Lombok as GA Airport after operation is moved to the new BIL (Bandara International Lombok) end of this year. However this is a new concept even local Government is supportive but due to business consideration it may not be possible.
This needs support of GA and Pilots in the Country to convince the owner of the land that such project is better to convert it to a shopping mal. By the way, who will go to shop in Lombok?
If it can be a GA Center, say for a few years, then with situation change, it can be reassessed again if it can be changed to other use or remain for GA. There is no need to be hurry.
In Jakarta, heard that DGCA will not approve new operatin of 141 there. New 141 needs to go elsewhere. Is Lombok a better location with its resorts and close proximity to Bali? If Lombok is developed as GA Center, it can attractive GA enthusiasts to the island, increase its name among people of same hobby in the region and then make the name of Lombok known to the World.
Can you (Indo GA fans) think of other ways of making use of the opportunity?
This needs support of GA and Pilots in the Country to convince the owner of the land that such project is better to convert it to a shopping mal. By the way, who will go to shop in Lombok?
If it can be a GA Center, say for a few years, then with situation change, it can be reassessed again if it can be changed to other use or remain for GA. There is no need to be hurry.
In Jakarta, heard that DGCA will not approve new operatin of 141 there. New 141 needs to go elsewhere. Is Lombok a better location with its resorts and close proximity to Bali? If Lombok is developed as GA Center, it can attractive GA enthusiasts to the island, increase its name among people of same hobby in the region and then make the name of Lombok known to the World.
Can you (Indo GA fans) think of other ways of making use of the opportunity?
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In Jakarta, heard that DGCA will not approve new operatin of 141 there. New 141 needs to go elsewhere
Lombok is a bit out of the way from both 'action centres' being West Java and Papua but better than nothing.
I have overseas investors who will set up workshops here if they could see they were given support not discouragement. So far too hard and too risky.
I can see the airport becoming a shopping mall , Indonesia is good at building malls.
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I heard Sky Aviation has problem with its past management that they need to reapply their 141 school from Ground Zero. It is a pity as they have two brand new Aspen equiped Liberty XL2 sitting in US for year waiting to be shipped.
I agree that Seleparang can be the best location for GA, West Java is too congested and not too many scenic spots. Papua is too dangerous with mountains and unpredictable weather. Lombok is not as famous as Bali and is always under Bali's shadow like its younger brother. Bali is well known Worldwide and people can come and with a week holiday they can fly to the east as far as to see Komodo.
At the moment, for foreign pilots to fly in Indonesia during short stay is almost impossible, I mean solo. May be with instructor and with a Club instead of 135 or141, this problem can be solved. Sky Aviation is working with Indonesia Flying Club on this.
Thailand, Phillipine, Malaysia have active GA activities, why not in Indonesia. This will bring in hard-earned foreign money not to mention to improve pilot's skill and popularity.
Can Seleparang be turned to an Air Park, crazy idea, may be? But people are buying properties in Bali and Lombok including from foreigners. I know a few retired pilots living in the area, mostly Dutch. I am sure their hands are itching to take the control.
Thanks for your comments, good or bad. It is important to look at things from two sides, especially from negative opinions. If there is one that youcannot give an answer, there is a problem.
Hope there will be more opinions from the blog, especially those who think Seleparang is not the ideal place.
I agree that Seleparang can be the best location for GA, West Java is too congested and not too many scenic spots. Papua is too dangerous with mountains and unpredictable weather. Lombok is not as famous as Bali and is always under Bali's shadow like its younger brother. Bali is well known Worldwide and people can come and with a week holiday they can fly to the east as far as to see Komodo.
At the moment, for foreign pilots to fly in Indonesia during short stay is almost impossible, I mean solo. May be with instructor and with a Club instead of 135 or141, this problem can be solved. Sky Aviation is working with Indonesia Flying Club on this.
Thailand, Phillipine, Malaysia have active GA activities, why not in Indonesia. This will bring in hard-earned foreign money not to mention to improve pilot's skill and popularity.
Can Seleparang be turned to an Air Park, crazy idea, may be? But people are buying properties in Bali and Lombok including from foreigners. I know a few retired pilots living in the area, mostly Dutch. I am sure their hands are itching to take the control.
Thanks for your comments, good or bad. It is important to look at things from two sides, especially from negative opinions. If there is one that youcannot give an answer, there is a problem.
Hope there will be more opinions from the blog, especially those who think Seleparang is not the ideal place.
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At the moment, for foreign pilots to fly in Indonesia during short stay is almost impossible, I mean solo. May be with instructor and with a Club instead of 135 or141, this problem can be solved.
It would be nice to see Indonesia have healthy private and sport aviation sectors.
Does anyone know who owns the Pitts S2S that has just started flying a Halim ?
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Seleparang
Who owns the land at Seleparang ? Looks like Angkasa Pura 1 ? If they make the ground leases cheap enough and provide encouragement and support it could be attractive.