ATC in Indonesia
Join Date: Aug 2004
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KUL ATC
Hello Capt Wooblah..very nice indeed to hear from you Sir. KL is just fine and smooth sailing.Things are still cheap. If u do drop by in KUL give me a tinckle. Maybe we can meet up sometime. I have been quite busy with the MAS forum. Hence u see little of my postings but I still read PPRUNE all the time.
Totally agree with you on the situational awareness thingy. There have been occassions where communications is not established. Hence we maintain contact eventhough the acft may already be in someone else's FIR.
It's the helping out each other thingy. I still remember the day when the MH flight from Joburg to Buenos Aires called KUL ATC via Satellite phone to relay position report because nobody was answering them.We sent an AFTN message to Joburg. Every ATC unit has it's own limitations which is beyond the Ctlers ability to overcome. Basically it is the dollars and sense that prevents the best equipment and the required training sessions for Ctlers. However I believe it should not relief the CTler from giving their best because we are service providers. With that in mind, I think everyone should endeavour to give their best. Happy flying Sir.
Totally agree with you on the situational awareness thingy. There have been occassions where communications is not established. Hence we maintain contact eventhough the acft may already be in someone else's FIR.
It's the helping out each other thingy. I still remember the day when the MH flight from Joburg to Buenos Aires called KUL ATC via Satellite phone to relay position report because nobody was answering them.We sent an AFTN message to Joburg. Every ATC unit has it's own limitations which is beyond the Ctlers ability to overcome. Basically it is the dollars and sense that prevents the best equipment and the required training sessions for Ctlers. However I believe it should not relief the CTler from giving their best because we are service providers. With that in mind, I think everyone should endeavour to give their best. Happy flying Sir.
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Hi,
not familiar with the the training ATC get in Indonesia but i have been flying into Jakarta most months for almost 7 years now, and overall its not too bad.
Even though its mentioned on the ATIS, i have never received a clearance from the delivery frequency, but that could well be due to the early morning departure times we have.
Often cleared for take off by the ground controller, no big deal but not a common occurrence elsewhere in the world.
Blatant preference to the local carriers resulting in excessive vectoring and fuel burn, frustrating, but thats life. Once as a bit of fun had to remind them that our destination was CGK, attempt at humour lost on the controller and he then turned us towards the airfield, happy days.
Rgds.
not familiar with the the training ATC get in Indonesia but i have been flying into Jakarta most months for almost 7 years now, and overall its not too bad.
Even though its mentioned on the ATIS, i have never received a clearance from the delivery frequency, but that could well be due to the early morning departure times we have.
Often cleared for take off by the ground controller, no big deal but not a common occurrence elsewhere in the world.
Blatant preference to the local carriers resulting in excessive vectoring and fuel burn, frustrating, but thats life. Once as a bit of fun had to remind them that our destination was CGK, attempt at humour lost on the controller and he then turned us towards the airfield, happy days.
Rgds.
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some of them we're good but some of them is bad,once i flew a month ago went to soekarno hatta runway 25R,when on short approach leaving 1000 feet,the tower still released the traffic from hold on short 25R,i was 3 nm from the touchdown 25R..(yet,another trip report for the tower)
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so, what's the problem, I was cleared to land in DELHI rwy 10 at 2.6 nm to touch down while the other aircraft just landed and clear the runway, if you can not make it than G/A
