Flying for Lion Air

[Macarto]

Any LionAir Cadets whom have no experience prior to joining the cadet programme through the assessment at CAE and is now a LionAir Pilot? Would love to hear your side of the story.

Cheers,
Mark

[Pin Head]

will they ever need contract FO's?

[tarmac12]

and have to pay wages?

The only way Lion Air would start hiring qualified and experienced FO's is if they have a hull loss and the DGCA are forced to act on the shameful way they source crew.

[Jerry Lee]

Please guys, stop posting if you have only to criticize Lion Air and the pilots that fly or are going to fly for them. It doesn't contribuite to the thread.

[jetjockey696]

I heard recently from Lion Air senior pilot, that a few indian pilots got caught recently with fake B737 type rating..

They PAID an indian DGCA officer to stamp a B737 type rating on into there license... all this scheme fell apart during the sim check.. they couldnt even do a simple preflight....totally lost.

Well I think if this the case of indian aviation.. I think India is a very dangerous to fly as a pax compared to Indonesia. So many fake pilots..


India may have 4000 'fake' pilots

Just a few days after Parminder Kaur Gulati, a suspended pilot of Indigo airline, was arrested on charges of faking her marksheet to get a pilot licence, another arrest on the same grounds has been made. This time around, Captain J K Verma, a pilot of the national carrier Air India has been arrested.

"We have arrested Verma. Investigations are on. We have been provided more names by the Directorate General Civil Aviation (DGCA). The scanner is on two more pilots - Meenakshi Sehgal of Indigo and Swaran Singh Talwar of MDLR," a senior police official said.

It all began after Parminder Kaur Gulati was grounded two months ago for violating landing norms. The matter was then reported to the aviation watchdog, the DGCA. The airline watchdog admits there was a lapse, but says 4000 pilot licences are now under fresh scrutiny.

"In the wake of the fake pilot scare, licenses of 3,000 to 4,000 pilots are being scrutinised by the DGCA," said Civil Aviation secretary Nasim Zaidi.

To get a licence, a pilot has to clear three subjects. But in Gulati's case, a probe by the DGCA showed she couldn't clear two papers, so she allegedly forged the marksheets.

Read more at: India may have 4000 'fake' pilots

[aviator_88]

hey jetjockey696,

can you tell us what's the current situation with Lion Air?? Are they accepting new pilots?? From EJ or whoever...also, are new aircraft arriving and who the hell is flying them??

[jetjockey696]

Aviator88

Yes they are accepting FOs. there is a high turn over of expat FOs. the ONLY way IN is PAYING one of the 3 companies. NO direct entry.. No use coming here and handing in CV or talk with these guys..etc... they would smile and direct you to one the following companies.. save your airfare.
Direct entry is only for LOCALS...

so these 3 companies are endorsed by lion...

Eaglejet
California falcon aviation
MSD (mainly for indians)

and recently one more... Fly gosh... he cheaper... but does not supply pilots to Lion... he does other airlines, like merpati, sriwijaya and citilink (garuda)

I keep telling people... when you come here.. you need to be very patient, you are running on INdonesian time for doing things. .. once you get accepted... except to start in a few months...ish.

[jetjockey696]

Last count there are around 300 expat in lion...include 4 P2F captains. 2x american, Venezuelan, Greek... more are coming every month.. nearly every month there 20 candidates.. the instructors are over worked due to a large influx..

Few are against P2F...and shout out... but i see there is a lot more lovers than hates...all quiet about it..shy...but some try not to pay... these 100% of CPL holders with 200hrs then write in to lion, in there CV all are willing to pay for there typerating everyday..

[aviator_88]

is there a big "flow" of pilots??

**I mean, are there enough pilots leaving and airplanes arriving to make constant demand for new first officers??

thank you for info.

[captjns]

What deserves more respect???? paying both a TRTO and Airline for a job? or building time and earning that job?

[Silver Spur]

@captjns: The later indeed There was no such thing as "paying your way up the RHS of a jet" when I or we, started flying.

Anyways, I am current commander on the B737-400, anyone has any idea if I can apply direct to Lion?

Thanks

SS

[Flywiz]

Who is flygosh

Hi guys recently I've heard of people talking abt flygosh . Has anyone been recruited through them . I'm going for the merpati exam on this 24th of jan .

[wisecaptain]

Silver spur ' if you want to join LionAir you must go through an agency like Rishworth.They require hours on the NG so you will have to have at least 1000hrs on type as a line checker/TRI or TRE.They dont want run of the mill line captains.

[jetjockey696]

yep.. now fly goshh are looking for direct entry capt for 9600usd net... take home... so that is the best paid for Indonesia capt.. most are paying 6 to 8usd only...