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hey guys, if the management in UL sucks, then how come the employees dont go on strike or something? I'm guessing there is a pilots/flight attendant unions, so if both groups go on strike, the mgmt HAS to surrender and meet your needs, no?
Maybe this might tell mgmt something and hopefully useless people in management will get fired or something..
do you guys think its a possibility??
Maybe this might tell mgmt something and hopefully useless people in management will get fired or something..
do you guys think its a possibility??
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MA60
If this Aircraft yet to be certified by all the Western Countries and Have so for involved in few Accidents and Incidents? then Can we allow our CAA and the Ministry to purchase this for Operation in Sri Lanka.?
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must be good !!!!!!!!
If a Dodgy Guy Like President Mugabe refused to fly on MA60 , then can we fly on this once they start Operations in Sri Lanka.?
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must be good !!!!!!!!If a Dodgy Guy Like President Mugabe refused to fly on MA60 , then can we fly on this once they start Operations in Sri Lanka.?
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Employee, public and personal views on Srilankan Airlines and it's CEO!!
SriLankan CEO optimistic but employees losing hope | The Sunday Leader
SriLankan CEO optimistic but employees losing hope | The Sunday Leader
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MA 60
The MA 60 had a 'up market' version called MA 600, which touted better performance and reliability .. and still nobody wanted it, even when China offer 'buy two, get one free deals'.
By the way, a famous operator of the MA 60 managed to 'under shoot' the runway once and 'overshoot' the runway the next time, and blaming the runway for the error. And for every plane that was shot on the runway, they got one replacement FOC. Now that is the kind of killer deals we need in Paradise.
Come to think of it, Paradisians' are more intelligent that Uncle Bob (Mugabe) and we know a think or two about technology, and Robert Mugabe is mad to ground the MA 60
My take would be, MA 60 is a politicallly appeasing deal, with no % involved, just to make China happy, and help Chinese aviation manufacturers chalk up some sales, even though it could end up hurting the safety standards of Sri Lanka as a whole, when we fly uncertified aircraft (errr ... does FAA/JAA certification really that critical ???)
By the way, a famous operator of the MA 60 managed to 'under shoot' the runway once and 'overshoot' the runway the next time, and blaming the runway for the error. And for every plane that was shot on the runway, they got one replacement FOC. Now that is the kind of killer deals we need in Paradise.
Come to think of it, Paradisians' are more intelligent that Uncle Bob (Mugabe) and we know a think or two about technology, and Robert Mugabe is mad to ground the MA 60
My take would be, MA 60 is a politicallly appeasing deal, with no % involved, just to make China happy, and help Chinese aviation manufacturers chalk up some sales, even though it could end up hurting the safety standards of Sri Lanka as a whole, when we fly uncertified aircraft (errr ... does FAA/JAA certification really that critical ???)
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To put an end (hopefully) to this argument;
1. Beggars
can't be choosers, financially this could be the best deal and such deals DO NOT come from the West 
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2. GoSL made similar deals with the Chinese many moons ago for the SLAF and some of those are yet in service and were the real work horses throughout the period of turmoil
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3. Even if the the Chinese aircraft were the best in the world would you believe that the FAA/CAA would readily grant them the status and approval they deserve ? NOT A CHANCE.
IT'S BUSINESS AND SELF INTEREST OF THE US AND EUROPE THAT MATTERS PRIMARILY HERE AND NOT RELIABILITY !!!
1. Beggars
can't be choosers, financially this could be the best deal and such deals DO NOT come from the West !2. GoSL made similar deals with the Chinese many moons ago for the SLAF and some of those are yet in service and were the real work horses throughout the period of turmoil
.3. Even if the the Chinese aircraft were the best in the world would you believe that the FAA/CAA would readily grant them the status and approval they deserve ? NOT A CHANCE
.IT'S BUSINESS AND SELF INTEREST OF THE US AND EUROPE THAT MATTERS PRIMARILY HERE AND NOT RELIABILITY !!!
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The story that's floating .. one SEA country got blacklisted by EU for the local CAA allowing the said country to let the operators fly 'uncertified' aircraft, and consequently, that country airlines had to use code-shared flights for most destination.
Second case - another SEA country was more or less 'gifted' the same modern chinese planes, with P&W engines, though two minor runway excursions by the MA60 showed how structurally safe the rest of the plane was, resulting in their CAA being speechles when confronted by FAA/EU for safety monitoring ..
And now that country has been downgraded by FAA for 'unsafe' operations/unsafe aircraft in operation, their national airline of that country is crying foul at their competitor who procured, placed in service, and proved more things which are unprintable. And yah, even our miserly cousin on SAARC, Nepal, refused the offer of buy two, get one free offer from CATIC.
It is not about whether it is European or Eastern, but the tin-can is not fit for flying pax. Same goes for the AN 26 - 32, which fly pax, but are not certified, and that places Paradise in the same league as ... how about Africa ???
PS: above is my 2 cent observation, though others may beg to differ, that, sticking a western engine into a AN 26 and calling in MA 60 or MA 600 makes it a whole new bird.
The story that's floating .. one SEA country got blacklisted by EU for the local CAA allowing the said country to let the operators fly 'uncertified' aircraft, and consequently, that country airlines had to use code-shared flights for most destination.
Second case - another SEA country was more or less 'gifted' the same modern chinese planes, with P&W engines, though two minor runway excursions by the MA60 showed how structurally safe the rest of the plane was, resulting in their CAA being speechles when confronted by FAA/EU for safety monitoring ..
And now that country has been downgraded by FAA for 'unsafe' operations/unsafe aircraft in operation, their national airline of that country is crying foul at their competitor who procured, placed in service, and proved more things which are unprintable. And yah, even our miserly cousin on SAARC, Nepal, refused the offer of buy two, get one free offer from CATIC.
It is not about whether it is European or Eastern, but the tin-can is not fit for flying pax. Same goes for the AN 26 - 32, which fly pax, but are not certified, and that places Paradise in the same league as ... how about Africa ???
PS: above is my 2 cent observation, though others may beg to differ, that, sticking a western engine into a AN 26 and calling in MA 60 or MA 600 makes it a whole new bird.
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just an idle thought ...
while working out the cost of purchase, and amortization, a DHC-8, for example, or an ATR, with a few years of use, (there are a lot of these idling around with the lessors .. ) and selling them off, will still work out cheaper than the chinese MA 60s, considering the resale value, and with the severe weight restrictions of the MA 60 ..
Sorry, I cant figure out how cheap purchase works out to profit, when running an airline.
On the other hand, people like air force dont care about cost of running, as long as the job gets done.
while working out the cost of purchase, and amortization, a DHC-8, for example, or an ATR, with a few years of use, (there are a lot of these idling around with the lessors .. ) and selling them off, will still work out cheaper than the chinese MA 60s, considering the resale value, and with the severe weight restrictions of the MA 60 ..
Sorry, I cant figure out how cheap purchase works out to profit, when running an airline.
On the other hand, people like air force dont care about cost of running, as long as the job gets done.
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A brand new ATR72 will cost only a couple more millions than a MA60 and a used one will cost the same as a MA60. For which you will get pretty much more safety and far better economics. But it won't help you politically.
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kflyer2 ...
A colleague of mine was working out the mathematics of a leased DHC 7 - which more than offsets it extra pair of engines with the excellent STOL and all weather op, or a DHC-8-200 or 300, and that still came to less than the cost of MA 60, training for crew, cost of being blacklisted by EU/FAA for operation of a JAA/FAA uncertified aircraft .. especially consdering the loads of Dash 8-300's in the market, apart from ATR 42/72s in the market.
But, know the Chinese, they seem to be using their influence to push down the MA 60 and soon to be available ARJs, so they can have 'many happy operators' world wide, and may gift the planes FOC .. or give it as buy one - get one free.
A colleague of mine was working out the mathematics of a leased DHC 7 - which more than offsets it extra pair of engines with the excellent STOL and all weather op, or a DHC-8-200 or 300, and that still came to less than the cost of MA 60, training for crew, cost of being blacklisted by EU/FAA for operation of a JAA/FAA uncertified aircraft .. especially consdering the loads of Dash 8-300's in the market, apart from ATR 42/72s in the market.
But, know the Chinese, they seem to be using their influence to push down the MA 60 and soon to be available ARJs, so they can have 'many happy operators' world wide, and may gift the planes FOC .. or give it as buy one - get one free.
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Dear ecureilx
1. I'm afraid your post is a bit too intelectual for this forum. This is the SriLankan Airlines forum where we generally bitch about the management at UL and provide bits and pieces of misfortune that come upon our fellow countrymen and then revel in joy that they are suffering.
2. Your replies are to Moderate and to Wetdrops.
Go view their profiles. See the posts that they have made. They both bitch about kingfisher and India. They both ask about Korean Airlines. They both implore the management of UL (who they presume, are reading these pages for advice on how to run ops) to get rid of the expats.
NAMES DELETED...Duck
Buddy, the two of them are not the Wright Brothers or Red Barons individually either. They barely maintained straight and level when they were at UL. So dont expect much in terms of substance, in replies from them
For clips and links to the misfortune of UL, spite toward Golden Key, Hatred to DP and PK ? they're the boys.
Blue Skies pal
1. I'm afraid your post is a bit too intelectual for this forum. This is the SriLankan Airlines forum where we generally bitch about the management at UL and provide bits and pieces of misfortune that come upon our fellow countrymen and then revel in joy that they are suffering.
2. Your replies are to Moderate and to Wetdrops.
Go view their profiles. See the posts that they have made. They both bitch about kingfisher and India. They both ask about Korean Airlines. They both implore the management of UL (who they presume, are reading these pages for advice on how to run ops) to get rid of the expats.
NAMES DELETED...Duck
Buddy, the two of them are not the Wright Brothers or Red Barons individually either. They barely maintained straight and level when they were at UL. So dont expect much in terms of substance, in replies from them
For clips and links to the misfortune of UL, spite toward Golden Key, Hatred to DP and PK ? they're the boys.
Blue Skies pal
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Internal
Heard there was an Internal argument during a Management meeting at Katunayake.
Was the HR lady involved ,, there was something to do wih the Pilots allowance and the HR ?
Can somebody get us an Update .....
Was the HR lady involved ,, there was something to do wih the Pilots allowance and the HR ?
Can somebody get us an Update .....
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Hey guys and gals, some maniac calling himself the WEB AUTHOR has gate crashed on us just to announce who is who on this forum! He has made no other contribution here 
. For this character to know who is who, for sure, he has to be the squid 
? Well, chum if you had taken similar interest in reading the thread properly you may have seen that some of us here are opposed to the mentioning of names! Did you miss that in your indecent hurry 
?
So when it comes to intellectual sparseness, we all now know where it lies now ! Please re-read and re-learn these subtle values and try not to mention names here even if you are confidant of who is who - as that is certainly not the priority here.
The claim that other Pilots can't fly straight and level (as well as me!) is as old as aviation itself as is sung by retards these days. Those two guys can certainly fly well and perhaps much better than you. Can we please see your abilities other than the petty contribution here 
? Your profiling expertise on this thread shows that you have got your knickers in a twist.
By the way did you mention GK?! And shouldn't that great robbery be denounced ? Or were you one of those canvassing types for GK who managed to get the cash back
?!
Next time please try and contribute something sensible here mate ! You could even ask someone else to give you the words..........since you don't have it.
. For this character to know who is who, for sure, he has to be the squid ? Well, chum if you had taken similar interest in reading the thread properly you may have seen that some of us here are opposed to the mentioning of names! Did you miss that in your indecent hurry ?So when it comes to intellectual sparseness, we all now know where it lies now ! Please re-read and re-learn these subtle values and try not to mention names here even if you are confidant of who is who - as that is certainly not the priority here.
The claim that other Pilots can't fly straight and level (as well as me!) is as old as aviation itself as is sung by retards these days
. Those two guys can certainly fly well and perhaps much better than you. Can we please see your abilities other than the petty contribution here ? Your profiling expertise on this thread shows that you have got your knickers in a twist.By the way did you mention GK?! And shouldn't that great robbery be denounced ? Or were you one of those canvassing types for GK who managed to get the cash back
?! Next time please try and contribute something sensible here mate ! You could even ask someone else to give you the words..........since you don't have it.
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again
again this forum is drifitng away to attack personal individuals.
Please do not publish peopls name other than the people who are not involved in Flying... Outsiders, poiticos are welcome but not flyers please.
Has anybody seen this K@flyer ? has he been bought by the UL management by giving away free tickets to keep his mouth shut
....
We are waiting for Kflyer.... come and say somethng ........
Please do not publish peopls name other than the people who are not involved in Flying... Outsiders, poiticos are welcome but not flyers please.
Has anybody seen this K@flyer ? has he been bought by the UL management by giving away free tickets to keep his mouth shut
....We are waiting for Kflyer.... come and say somethng ........
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hey guys, I was wondering if I can get a hold of the Director of Flight Ops in UL.. A contact number or email address would be highly appreciated..
basically I want to know what the hiring requirements are and if any considerations can be made with respect to the flight times and aircraft experience...
any help will be appreciated!!
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@ web author,
No contribution of any substance from you, No protocol, No etiquette and No decency!!
Keep the names out! As for the two individuals that you have named, I hear otherwise!
I personally look forward to reading intellectual contributions and views on this forum, and in this particular thread.
But I certainly don't appreciate your comments and your attempt to sling mud or **** at individuals!
No contribution of any substance from you, No protocol, No etiquette and No decency!!
Keep the names out! As for the two individuals that you have named, I hear otherwise!
I personally look forward to reading intellectual contributions and views on this forum, and in this particular thread.
But I certainly don't appreciate your comments and your attempt to sling mud or **** at individuals!
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