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Still Looking For Any Interview Updates
Just to bump this thread to the top and still looking for any information from recent interview experience. Your updates are appreciated.
Retired (again...)
Retired (again...)
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Does that mean that people who got their starting date, or already in training and who quit their jobs for this Airline/Agency are know being sent home and became jobless...? Nice job, good for reputation and best of luck finding experienced pilots in the future. I hope you will have fun crewing your planes with 200hrs MPL holders. Insurance companies would love this.
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And for how long?
How many are retiring a year?
How many early retiring?
How many are taking pilot courses these days?
Will you pay 30K+ for a license which will maybe qualify you for nothing but an underpaid insecure job at regionals hoping that after 10 yrs flying you might have a chance landing a normal pilot job.
How many airlines are still holding cadet-pilot programs?
How many pilots at the screenings are really jobless?
If you take a closer look 80% are doing the screening "just in case".
So will one quit his job even if he feels bad there and jump two continents to work for the airline which runs the same bad story.
Don't think so.
Just because it is a pilot surplus, that does not mean they should be treated like trash.
What goes around comes around.
How many are retiring a year?
How many early retiring?
How many are taking pilot courses these days?
Will you pay 30K+ for a license which will maybe qualify you for nothing but an underpaid insecure job at regionals hoping that after 10 yrs flying you might have a chance landing a normal pilot job.
How many airlines are still holding cadet-pilot programs?
How many pilots at the screenings are really jobless?
If you take a closer look 80% are doing the screening "just in case".
So will one quit his job even if he feels bad there and jump two continents to work for the airline which runs the same bad story.
Don't think so.
Just because it is a pilot surplus, that does not mean they should be treated like trash.
What goes around comes around.
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Little Jet,
My try in answering your questions:
1) When donkeys fly!
2) Not enough.
3) See answer to #2.
4) Enough to sustain the pilot training schools.
5) I won't, but enough people do to keep the programs running.
6) The ones that choose to fund their programs. The waiting lists for those programs are quite lengthy.
7) Doesn't matter, most are willing to sever ties with their current employer to take the job. if offered.
8) Interesting number, "just in case" could be the inevitable failure of their current employer. Or, "just in case" could be "just in case" they are offered a position.
9) You may not think so, but the KAL hiring statistics would prove you wrong.
Pilots always have, and always will, climb over each other's backs to improve their lot in life. That is the nature of the industry. Especially the industry of the contract pilot.
My try in answering your questions:
1) When donkeys fly!
2) Not enough.
3) See answer to #2.
4) Enough to sustain the pilot training schools.
5) I won't, but enough people do to keep the programs running.
6) The ones that choose to fund their programs. The waiting lists for those programs are quite lengthy.
7) Doesn't matter, most are willing to sever ties with their current employer to take the job. if offered.
8) Interesting number, "just in case" could be the inevitable failure of their current employer. Or, "just in case" could be "just in case" they are offered a position.
9) You may not think so, but the KAL hiring statistics would prove you wrong.
Pilots always have, and always will, climb over each other's backs to improve their lot in life. That is the nature of the industry. Especially the industry of the contract pilot.
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All above, let's just wait and see.
My opinion is that either the whole aviation industry will just die and there will be few strong gov't subsidized nationals which will fly with severely reduced capacity like in the past, or all those ordered aircraft will have to have somebody flying it. Maybe donkeys.
As for KAL, how come that KAL has been looking for pilots all this time if they have so many candidates?
Why did they recently open for non-type rated?
L.
My opinion is that either the whole aviation industry will just die and there will be few strong gov't subsidized nationals which will fly with severely reduced capacity like in the past, or all those ordered aircraft will have to have somebody flying it. Maybe donkeys.
As for KAL, how come that KAL has been looking for pilots all this time if they have so many candidates?
Why did they recently open for non-type rated?
L.
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Back to the screening, does anyone about what to expect in the sim for a non-type rated on the B744? They do not give much away apart from asking to bring your own QRH and normal checklist?
What are they assessing?
Pin
What are they assessing?
Pin
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Any news?
I receive almost daily job offers from Korean from Risworth. Are these pilots now in training. Is only the Captain's training stopped or also the FO's? Is it worth applying under the current conditions? Thanks.
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Pappy J to answer your question, a recent example.
Upon entering dispatch recently a couple of korean union pilots were
handing out paperwork to only korean f/os. Tried to get one but told
wasn't for me. Another friend got a hold of one, with the aid of sticky
fingers. Had korean girlfriend translate. Paperwork stated to report any
and all instances, where the foreign captain does not do everything by
the book. And not even in the book. Report everything.
Doesn't state to report captains, but quite distinctly. FOREIGN CAPTAINS.
Hope that answers your question. Nice place huh ??
Upon entering dispatch recently a couple of korean union pilots were
handing out paperwork to only korean f/os. Tried to get one but told
wasn't for me. Another friend got a hold of one, with the aid of sticky
fingers. Had korean girlfriend translate. Paperwork stated to report any
and all instances, where the foreign captain does not do everything by
the book. And not even in the book. Report everything.
Doesn't state to report captains, but quite distinctly. FOREIGN CAPTAINS.
Hope that answers your question. Nice place huh ??
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KAL
Hi guys! Recently lost my job and I've seen the add for KAL F/O 737...anyway my question is, If anyone knows ,if there is any chance to cancel the contract in case something would go wrong back home..I mean 5 years is a looong time
Btw, great topic, gained a lot of usefull info
Btw, great topic, gained a lot of usefull info
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Kal interview winter 2009
hi guys.I am almost new here, and I have been reading all kal posts.
I am looking for new info regarding the FO kal selection on B737.
I will appreciate any new info, tip, detail, and especially what to expect, how to prepare etc...
looking forward to it!
thank u all
I am looking for new info regarding the FO kal selection on B737.
I will appreciate any new info, tip, detail, and especially what to expect, how to prepare etc...
looking forward to it!
thank u all
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hipe1,
From what an agent have told me, 5 year contract means that you have to stick with one agent during the 5 year period. However, as far as your deal with KAL, you are free to leave after 1 year of service with prior notice (3months).
From what an agent have told me, 5 year contract means that you have to stick with one agent during the 5 year period. However, as far as your deal with KAL, you are free to leave after 1 year of service with prior notice (3months).
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kal conditions
Hoping to Join KAL on A330. Can anyone tell me if one can commute from Europe? Start your months work in AMS or MAD for example?
Also an insight into the average working month would be appreciated.
Also an insight into the average working month would be appreciated.
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I am also interested in info on the screenings. Got call today I am going for screening 7-11 december for B737NG F/O position with Korean. For those wondering about my level of experience I have just short of 2200h TT, 1600h B737.
NTR 744 captains?
Just noticed on the direct personnel site, that they are accepting applications from non-rated captains, with command experience on 777/767/757/737NG.
Is this accurate?? I didnt think they would need to look that hard for qualified 747 guys?
Where do I sign up!
Is this accurate?? I didnt think they would need to look that hard for qualified 747 guys?
Where do I sign up!