Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > PPRuNe Worldwide > South Asia and the Far East
Reload this Page >

Korean Air or Qatar Airways

Wikiposts
Search
South Asia and the Far East News and views on the fast growing and changing aviation scene on the planet.

Korean Air or Qatar Airways

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 31st Dec 2008, 01:42
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: EU Airspace. Elev: 39000ft.
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Korean Air or Qatar Airways

Gentleman of KAL, or ex KAL, Good day to all.

Ive been offered interview on both Korean Air and Qatar Airways on these coming months. My question is (obvoiusly, incase I make it)..which one?
Before giving me your advices, consider the following:
F/O, early 30s, single, with over 3000 hours,

In KAL Im offered the 737. 11 days off a month anywhere in the world. No chance for upgrade ever, life in Korea would be purely focused on work, very strict SOPs, no social life, etc.

In QR most probably the 777. but im not looking in staying there for ever either.

Money wise comes out to the same after computing everything. Im simply looking for the most favourable and enjoyable experience.

Advice from Expats greatly appreciated..

Thanks to all.
bluefalcon is online now Report Post Edit/Delete Message
bluefalcon is offline  
Old 31st Dec 2008, 02:59
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: XXX
Posts: 297
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
my advice
from pal's that work or have worked for them
go for Qatar
forget KR
jumpdrive is offline  
Old 31st Dec 2008, 16:42
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Worldwide
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Jumpdrive, I think I smell sour grapes...
If you want to commute KAL is simply the best deal around. From MY OWN experience as a KAL captain (B744) for almost 8 years, the info bluefalcon has is basically correct. Very little social life indeed, at least with the locals. Good, reliable airline, training is intense but getting better. It has improved a lot since I joined.
Good luck!
Samuel Adams is offline  
Old 1st Jan 2009, 14:25
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Gone to my "Happy Place".
Posts: 157
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Three words to remember whist choosing

Akbar Al Baker!
Jimmy Do Little is offline  
Old 2nd Jan 2009, 01:32
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: HKG
Posts: 187
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Korean girls are considered by many to be amongst the most beautifull in the world - nobody has ever seen a Qatari woman....
yokebearer is offline  
Old 2nd Jan 2009, 02:31
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Gone to my "Happy Place".
Posts: 157
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
nobody has ever seen a Qatari woman....
This is a quote I shall never forget
Jimmy Do Little is offline  
Old 8th Jan 2009, 17:22
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Over the Pacific
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Dear Blue Falcon:

Sam Adams is right. Best commuting contract for a Expat by far. Social Life? Not so much. You won't have to worry about that though because you'll be flying your backside off.

If you've not worked in the Orient before, don't start at KAL. The culture is hardcore and very hard on Westerners. Search the forum on all that.

Go to the desert.
WallyBallbearing is offline  
Old 8th Jan 2009, 19:42
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: N25.15.9 / E051.33.6
Posts: 342
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Blue Falcon:

you have received a lot of response to this question on the Middle East forum as well. I don't think it takes a very educated man to see the light here.

also you mentioned,
"Im simply looking for the most favourable and enjoyable experience".

if thats the case, stop looking at QA for something favorable and enjoyable, both do not exist here.
times that by 100 for F/O's.


poisoned by compromise
Krunch
Capt Krunch is offline  
Old 8th Jan 2009, 22:15
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: australasia
Posts: 431
Received 8 Likes on 3 Posts
A few Korean F/O's have moved to QATAR. However I am unaware of any reverse flow

M
maui is offline  
Old 8th Jan 2009, 23:36
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: N25.15.9 / E051.33.6
Posts: 342
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
recently we have had quite a few Capts leave QA for KAL, and seen some North American Capt leave KAL for QA ( tax reasons I believe ).

not to mention a few local Asiana F/O's joined QA a while back ( union problems I believe), nearly all have left.

QA is a revolving door, type rating factory, no one survives very long out here.

Poisoned by Compromise
Krunch
Capt Krunch is offline  
Old 9th Jan 2009, 05:08
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Canada
Age: 54
Posts: 128
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
We have had a lot of Korean 330 FO come to EY.
CanadaRocks is offline  
Old 10th Jan 2009, 03:32
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Sandy beach
Posts: 430
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I'm just reading a book called Outliers......interesting read. Chapter on Korean and the power distance, accident history

Even with the issues at Qatar, I'd take the lessor of the two and go to the desert. Korean is no place for an FO, never has been.

Good luck
Saltaire is offline  
Old 11th Jan 2009, 09:02
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Europe
Posts: 172
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Yes, I confirm there will be a few ``advantages ``in QR. And you`ll be on 777!!!

FBW 390
FBW390 is offline  
Old 11th Jan 2009, 10:18
  #14 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Far East
Posts: 66
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
For your survival...

Take QA my friend. At least EVERYBODY there speaks and understands English. Good Luck.
Shintaro9 is offline  
Old 11th Jan 2009, 14:00
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: mombasa
Posts: 39
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
a few korean fo join Qr ???? how many?? 10?..20?..you mean there is a twin (mr) Dong in Qr?...please give a good information pls.....and for you to know about QR just read thread about Qr in Mid-East Forum..i think you are mature enough to understand.
sayap-patah is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.