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EP
EP I think you are way out of your station here lad and all you are doing is making a goose of yourself
, best go back to wearing your school socks and leave it to the men to discuss!
, best go back to wearing your school socks and leave it to the men to discuss!
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no pay leave at SINGAPORE AIRLINES CARGO
guys,
i heard the newspapers have got a wind of the NPL scheme and they are hungry for information as SQ is always of interest.
i also heard the SQ management is rather concerned as the SQ method of bleeding cargo for there prosperity is gonna unfold and cause embarrassment.
how SQcargo has to pay for SQ belly cargo and tech positioning tickets at high prices and services as engineering etc. they (SQ MAINLINE) charge the sun and the moon and pluck away our nuts for their sustenance.
stay together ..........mainline rats are trying to convince the SQ management that they should come back into correct the situation. remember those moron's well we must keep them out.
hang on lads, the new year is gonna be full of surprises. Oh yes i heard a modest bonus will be paid to us too, follwoed by a kick to the asses of the masses.
hey has anybody seen bananasbananas on the thread now that he is an instructor he is a management licker, remember his start with bang?
take care all safe flying.
i heard the newspapers have got a wind of the NPL scheme and they are hungry for information as SQ is always of interest.
i also heard the SQ management is rather concerned as the SQ method of bleeding cargo for there prosperity is gonna unfold and cause embarrassment.
how SQcargo has to pay for SQ belly cargo and tech positioning tickets at high prices and services as engineering etc. they (SQ MAINLINE) charge the sun and the moon and pluck away our nuts for their sustenance.
stay together ..........mainline rats are trying to convince the SQ management that they should come back into correct the situation. remember those moron's well we must keep them out.
hang on lads, the new year is gonna be full of surprises. Oh yes i heard a modest bonus will be paid to us too, follwoed by a kick to the asses of the masses.
hey has anybody seen bananasbananas on the thread now that he is an instructor he is a management licker, remember his start with bang?
take care all safe flying.
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CARGOJOCK re Bananasbananas
You have a good point there. He always had a comment to make once upon a time. One week the recruiting sergeant for SIA Cargo, the next telling us it was a load of crock. He was already half native of course when he joined SIA from RBA but now the transformation would appear to be complete
In view of the harsh economic climate sweeping through aviation he is very wisely keeping his head below the parapet, even more so perhaps in view of his new exalted position?
You have a good point there. He always had a comment to make once upon a time. One week the recruiting sergeant for SIA Cargo, the next telling us it was a load of crock. He was already half native of course when he joined SIA from RBA but now the transformation would appear to be complete
In view of the harsh economic climate sweeping through aviation he is very wisely keeping his head below the parapet, even more so perhaps in view of his new exalted position?
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You guyz talking 'bout bananasbananas right...?? Initials G....??
I think I know what he's up to......
I think I know what he's up to......
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Guys, if Bananasbananas is the one I think he is then he is a good example of that you DON'T need to be a "management licker" to be an instructor.
When I look at the instructors I see very few that I think qualify for the bad mouthing of Cargojock.
When I look at the instructors I see very few that I think qualify for the bad mouthing of Cargojock.
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ahh, u should hear of the last interview with SQ. When they asked me of my annual pay as middle management staff, i can see how unhappy he look at the salary i'm drawing at this age. (he's some old chap, prob one of those old pilots).
Anyway, i did tell him that its acceptable salary package as we use lots of maturity and brains in our jobs, not just flying from point A to point B. So i told him, SQ may have a diff criteria when selecting candidates.. and i did tell him that if one is to read some of the way that even captains are talking in pprune org - its obvious what sorta calibre they have between the ears.
That parting shot and the look on the interviewer's face - priceless.
Anyway, i did tell him that its acceptable salary package as we use lots of maturity and brains in our jobs, not just flying from point A to point B. So i told him, SQ may have a diff criteria when selecting candidates.. and i did tell him that if one is to read some of the way that even captains are talking in pprune org - its obvious what sorta calibre they have between the ears.
That parting shot and the look on the interviewer's face - priceless.
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Originally Posted by echopapa
ahh, u should hear of the last interview with SQ. When they asked me of my annual pay as middle management staff, i can see how unhappy he look at the salary i'm drawing at this age. (he's some old chap, prob one of those old pilots).
Anyway, i did tell him that its acceptable salary package as we use lots of maturity and brains in our jobs, not just flying from point A to point B. So i told him, SQ may have a diff criteria when selecting candidates.. and i did tell him that if one is to read some of the way that even captains are talking in PPRuNe org - its obvious what sorta calibre they have between the ears.
That parting shot and the look on the interviewer's face - priceless.
Anyway, i did tell him that its acceptable salary package as we use lots of maturity and brains in our jobs, not just flying from point A to point B. So i told him, SQ may have a diff criteria when selecting candidates.. and i did tell him that if one is to read some of the way that even captains are talking in PPRuNe org - its obvious what sorta calibre they have between the ears.
That parting shot and the look on the interviewer's face - priceless.
An airline pilot takes on a complex set of responsibilities that traverse various levels of consideration (technical, practical, legal, ethical, etc). Some of the decisions that a pilot makes exemplify the "lots of maturity and brains in our jobs" that you imply pilots need not exercise.
Here's a small sample of the numerous factors that serve as intellectual stimulation for a pilot:
1. Checking weather to make sure the flight can be completed safely AND legally. This includes knowing where the good weather is if things REALLY go bad.
2. Ensuring that adequate fuel is carried to safely and legally complete the flight. Is the weather bad and delays or holding likely? Is the airport congested with delays likely? Will the airplane need to wait in line to get de-iced before takeoff? (This takes time and uses fuel; you may need to take a few hundred extra pounds).
3. Are any nagivation aids inoperative that affect the flight? Any construction or runway closures at the destination or departure airport that will affect you? Are any of the instrument approaches at your destination out of service?
4. Does the weather require you to have an alternate airport? Do you have enough fuel to safely/legally fly to it?
5. Is the airplane safe for flight? Dents, dings, cut tires, maintenance write-ups that haven't been properly addressed?
6. You are responsible for properly briefing the flight attendants and your first officer. (This is essentially a review of SOP's as well as any additional things that are particular to how you "do business").
7. You're responsible for ensuring that every single regulation (as well as your airline's standard operating procedures) is followed.
8. You are responsible to safely handle anything and everything that occurs during flight. Engine failure, thunderstorms, airport closures, system malfunctions.
9. You're responsible for knowing all limitations applicable to your aircraft (max airspeeds for gear and flaps, max takeoff & landing weights, max temps for the engines, etc).
10. Does the runway have water, snow, ice or slush on it? If so is it long enough to handle an aborted takeoff? What about at your destination? If the runway is covered with snow can you stop before running off the end? If it's windy and the runway is slippery can you safely handle the crosswind?
That is just a small sprinkling of what an airline pilot has on his mind during a day at the "office". Hope it provides you with better insight as to the "maturity and brains" this job demands.
I haven't even touched on the most crucial element, which is being personally resposible for hundreds of lives at times. No other job has a greater claim of being one of life and death. Put it this way. When you mess up your work with a pilot at your workplace, the pilot doesn't die. When a pilot messes up his work with you at his "workplace", YOU DIE. Think about that the next time you're on a business trip.
But perhaps the most disappointing aspect of all this is the inflated importance you seem to place on salaries and the monetary aspects of a person's career. The sooner you realise that money is not everything in this world, the better for you. I know what I'm talking about. Being a first class honours graduate from a finance-related field, I has a handful of offers from multinational finance companies with attractive salaries. My father owns an SME himself, where I could easily be a director. But none of this mattered when I applied with SIA to be a cadet pilot. And having just cleared my final interview and now waiting for the privilege of joining this fine organisation, I have absolutely no regrets at giving up salaries that would probably exceed what you currently draw.
Why, you ask? Because matters of the heart extend well beyond the wallet my friend. Matters such as family, friends, and in this case, the honour of being a part of the airline industry and SIA. You probably know that yourself, which explains why, despite boasting about your good "annual pay as middle management staff", you have tried 3 times over to get through SIA's first interview even while in your 30s, and have even made enquiries with MAS via email about your eligibility for their programme (trust me, I know all this).
Being a cadet-to-be, I respect every one of these men immensely for the courage, intellect and sense of responsibility, among other things, that they bring to the flight deck. And that respect will never cease or waver. Yes, you are right to say that "SQ may have a diff criteria when selecting candidates" as compared to what you possess. But to add to that, the different criteria SQ is looking for is the right criteria.
Hope things are a little clearer to you now, echopapa. Cheers.
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EP seems to think that Pprune is some sort of worthwhile mouth piece for judging the ability of our managers. Surely that conclusively shows how little grey matter there is in EP's head.
My guess is that EP came to an interview, was found out for his arrogance and stupidity and was shown the door. Now of course he is full of poison. Besides if you are such a hero manager EP, what on earth were you doing looking for a line Capts job in SIA.
We really dont need small minded little f$rts like you coming here to tell us how to run our successful coy. We are doing just fine without you so stay away sunshine.
My guess is that EP came to an interview, was found out for his arrogance and stupidity and was shown the door. Now of course he is full of poison. Besides if you are such a hero manager EP, what on earth were you doing looking for a line Capts job in SIA.
We really dont need small minded little f$rts like you coming here to tell us how to run our successful coy. We are doing just fine without you so stay away sunshine.
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Daily sky.......
Very very well put my friend.I could'nt have put it better myself...!!
KUDOS...!! And keep it up....
Why do I have a nagging feeling EP=Getsetgo(remember him...??...lolol)
Well cheers to that....
Very very well put my friend.I could'nt have put it better myself...!!
KUDOS...!! And keep it up....
Why do I have a nagging feeling EP=Getsetgo(remember him...??...lolol)
Well cheers to that....
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Wow, I definitely did not expect my maiden post to be so well-received. This sure vindicates the conviction in my heart about being with the right group of men.
@ Che Xindamail, Flaperon777 and Arkdriver:
Thanks for the well-wishes fellas! I am sure they will serve me well as I seek to make my way through the training process and emulate your success. I really do feel at home here. As Arkdriver put it, "welcome to the fold" indeed. Now if only I can get that all-important positive medical result. Pray for me!
@ SG_Aviator:
Thanks man, glad to know someone who's in the same boat as me. Hopefully we end up being coursemates, that way we can toast to just about everything! Haha.. keep me posted on your medical results yeah? All the best!
@ Che Xindamail, Flaperon777 and Arkdriver:
Thanks for the well-wishes fellas! I am sure they will serve me well as I seek to make my way through the training process and emulate your success. I really do feel at home here. As Arkdriver put it, "welcome to the fold" indeed. Now if only I can get that all-important positive medical result. Pray for me!
@ SG_Aviator:
Thanks man, glad to know someone who's in the same boat as me. Hopefully we end up being coursemates, that way we can toast to just about everything! Haha.. keep me posted on your medical results yeah? All the best!
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Sia Cargo Price Fixing On The Radio News
Hi Lads,
Just heard on the news that SIA CARGO will defend itself in court against allegations of price fixing in the australian market between th eperiod 2001-2005.
as rumour has it the loss that was incurred at SIA CARGO is themoney allocated for fines payable in 2009 after the court cases in the USA/NZ and AUST.
all the cargo operators had been investigated and all had been fined to the tune of millions. all were settled out of courts as if court proceedings take place sensitive company data is made public.so the settlements KAL had appealed but rejected and had to provide all details.
2009 is gonna be an embarrassing year for the "FINE CITY" in asia........you know who?
Just heard on the news that SIA CARGO will defend itself in court against allegations of price fixing in the australian market between th eperiod 2001-2005.
as rumour has it the loss that was incurred at SIA CARGO is themoney allocated for fines payable in 2009 after the court cases in the USA/NZ and AUST.
all the cargo operators had been investigated and all had been fined to the tune of millions. all were settled out of courts as if court proceedings take place sensitive company data is made public.so the settlements KAL had appealed but rejected and had to provide all details.
2009 is gonna be an embarrassing year for the "FINE CITY" in asia........you know who?
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daily sky,
Welcome to the brotherhood bro.Welcome to Pprune.
Sorry did'nt notice that it was your first post.Just goes to show how interesting it was....!!
Excellent one at that!
Merry christmas.
Welcome to the brotherhood bro.Welcome to Pprune.
Sorry did'nt notice that it was your first post.Just goes to show how interesting it was....
!!Excellent one at that!
Merry christmas.
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I bought my freedom from SIAC almost six months ago. I wasn't allowed to leave paradise without paying every penny I owed according to the contract (prorated bond and taxes). However, I am still waiting for the money they owe me for moving benefits upon termination, also in the same contract. Now I know why.
PS: Don't be so hard on BananasBananas. Maybe when ALPA-S put his nose out of joint earlier this year, he decided that if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. Speaking of ALPA-S, where are they in this "unpaid leave, we got your money" scam?
PQ
PS: Don't be so hard on BananasBananas. Maybe when ALPA-S put his nose out of joint earlier this year, he decided that if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. Speaking of ALPA-S, where are they in this "unpaid leave, we got your money" scam?
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Just out of curiosity PQ......and maybe stupidity.....
WHY were you leaving SIAC again......???
WITHOUT your bond period expiring that is.
Also,why would SIAC retain bond money AFTER expiry of your bond period....?? Sounds like BS to me.Or something HUGELY illegal.
Or maybe a bit of both huh.........??
Why don't YOU tell me.......
F7
WHY were you leaving SIAC again......???
WITHOUT your bond period expiring that is.
Also,why would SIAC retain bond money AFTER expiry of your bond period....?? Sounds like BS to me.Or something HUGELY illegal.
Or maybe a bit of both huh.........??
Why don't YOU tell me.......
F7