SIA not renewing 70% Expat Contracts
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They actually have your nationality on the front of your staff pass along with your name so that ppl no where u are in the "ranking system" along wif ur bar. 
SQ is actually run more like a militiary organization rather than a commercial organization. This not only applies to inside the flight deck but permeates to every corner of the company. To understand SQ, you have to get to know Singapore as a country as both of them operate in the same way.
SQ is actually run more like a militiary organization rather than a commercial organization. This not only applies to inside the flight deck but permeates to every corner of the company. To understand SQ, you have to get to know Singapore as a country as both of them operate in the same way.
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you are talking rubbish. Yes SQ catapulted two Generals ex Airforce into the company when I was there after the genius who paid £625 million Stg for 49% of Virgin Atlantic left to join a Singapore Bank ( DBS i think?) but never did I personally find it run in the way you describe.
malaysiacadet Malaysians with PR if they behave themselves are OK but if they get involved with Alpha-S and upset the MM then as a certain B744 Captain found he was persona non grata and quickly was deported to Perth.
you are talking rubbish. Yes SQ catapulted two Generals ex Airforce into the company when I was there after the genius who paid £625 million Stg for 49% of Virgin Atlantic left to join a Singapore Bank ( DBS i think?) but never did I personally find it run in the way you describe.
malaysiacadet Malaysians with PR if they behave themselves are OK but if they get involved with Alpha-S and upset the MM then as a certain B744 Captain found he was persona non grata and quickly was deported to Perth.
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malaysiacadet Malaysians with PR if they behave themselves are OK but if they get involved with Alpha-S and upset the MM then as a certain B744 Captain found he was persona non grata and quickly was deported to Perth.
you are dead right, its not a military establishment, its more like a dictatorship that you have described.
malaysiacadet Malaysians with PR if they behave themselves are OK but if they get involved with Alpha-S and upset the MM then as a certain B744 Captain found he was persona non grata and quickly was deported to Perth.
you are dead right, its not a military establishment, its more like a dictatorship that you have described.
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Seriously true! do NOT p**s off the "Union"... they eat their dead! I did and it was comedic to watch the sputtering and posturing and the grilling I got was beyond funny!
If an expatriate captain was on the Lhe incident, how many of you would think that he would have kept his job. Let alone his command!! I think alot of non SQ don't really know what happened for 35secs at 200 - 300 ft.
a345xx - your statement of difference from local to expat being 25-40% is utter bollocks. The only significant addition is the housing allowance. The new system pays a housing allowance regardless if you use it. Schooling allowance is to pay, then claim. Educate your kids in local school for $200 a year and you claim $200. Send them to the American, Canadian or Tanglin and you pay far more than you can claim. Maybe some expats want there children educated in local schools, maybe not.
The 10k a year, to me, is for the local CPF.
a345xx - your statement of difference from local to expat being 25-40% is utter bollocks. The only significant addition is the housing allowance. The new system pays a housing allowance regardless if you use it. Schooling allowance is to pay, then claim. Educate your kids in local school for $200 a year and you claim $200. Send them to the American, Canadian or Tanglin and you pay far more than you can claim. Maybe some expats want there children educated in local schools, maybe not.
The 10k a year, to me, is for the local CPF.
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SIA is supposed to have lost US$250m but is still in profit a drop of 43% as per bloomberg.and a further US$ 240 due fuel hedging.
well they have also forced given SIA CARGO there BCF and SIA CARGO has parked there dedicated freighters in the jungle,and we cargo lads have to go on no pay leave.
cargo also has paid for this BCF aircraft, a price of a new 747 and paid a US$80 fine in the USA for price fixing.
the court case is scheduled for the 12th february in australia for price fixing in that part of the world.
well they have also forced given SIA CARGO there BCF and SIA CARGO has parked there dedicated freighters in the jungle,and we cargo lads have to go on no pay leave.
cargo also has paid for this BCF aircraft, a price of a new 747 and paid a US$80 fine in the USA for price fixing.
the court case is scheduled for the 12th february in australia for price fixing in that part of the world.
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"cargo also has paid for this BCF aircraft, a price of a new 747 and paid a US$80 fine in the USA for price fixing."
Above is an example of a certain SIA cargo pilot's education level.
He assumes everyone knows what on earth a BCF is and I would happily pay the miserly US$80 fine myself if that is what the fine was.
This guy, CARGOJOCK, thinks the management in SIA are far more dumb than himself. I guess even clowns are allowed to post here.
Above is an example of a certain SIA cargo pilot's education level.
He assumes everyone knows what on earth a BCF is and I would happily pay the miserly US$80 fine myself if that is what the fine was.
This guy, CARGOJOCK, thinks the management in SIA are far more dumb than himself. I guess even clowns are allowed to post here.
a345xx - thats' a good point - I must admit that I never thought that joining on local terms was an option for an expatriate, and I would hazard a guess, that in the way past, the financial gap from expat to local was greater. But since the removal of the CPF and SPF ( I think that was the company provident fund) in the expat package the gap has narrowed considerably. I still do not know if one has the "option" to join on local terms.
Chimbudzi - I think you going to have Cargojocks frothing at the mouth in flabbergasted disbelief - good for you to say it!!!
Chimbudzi - I think you going to have Cargojocks frothing at the mouth in flabbergasted disbelief - good for you to say it!!!
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ok wise guy when you are in the industry and you do not know what "BCF" MEANS IT SHOWS YOU ARE TYPICAL SINGAPOREAN LA.why not you robots are abbreviation wizards
as for the US$ 80 yes i did miss out on a "m" after the figure, once again a typical singaporean .....cannot figure it la
dumb **** la
as for the US$ 80 yes i did miss out on a "m" after the figure, once again a typical singaporean .....cannot figure it la
dumb **** la
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BCF is a fire extinguisher! I have been in the industry nearly forty years and I have never come across 'BCF' in any other form before.
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So here he goes again with his raw racism towards his employers.
Firstly I am not a Singaporean but your need to refer to the people you work for as "dumb ****s", "robots" and last time "the chopstix clan" show precisely why I take issue with you. Since you mention it, I would just love to hear what your description of a "typical Singaporean" is and you are probably stupid enough to post it here.
I figuered you meant to place an "M" with your 80 but I made my point because all of your posts are poorly written, lack adult logic and have always come across with an arrogance as if you were God's gift to aviation.
You are so lacking in education, you actually believe that you are anonymous on this web site. Believe me your IT savvy employers know exactly who you are and have done for some time. Your contract will be up in the forseeable future and you can probably guarantee you will be 'on your bike' sunshine. Nice time to be joining the so called "70%"
I wont be loosing sleep when you are sent on your no paid leave, guys like you deserve no better. Its your compatriots I feel sorry for.
I have heard enough garbage from CARGOJOCK now so I have decided to make it my mission from now on to take issue with him. Anymore dumb, biased, angry, ignorant posts from him will get a reaction from me and I feel it will be like a cat playing with a rather dim mouse
Thanks CDRW for spelling my name more correctly than I do. Your Shona is better than mine.
Thanks Parabellum for letting us know what BCF really stands for. Our 'in house tame clown', CARGOJOCK, thinks it is something else
Firstly I am not a Singaporean but your need to refer to the people you work for as "dumb ****s", "robots" and last time "the chopstix clan" show precisely why I take issue with you. Since you mention it, I would just love to hear what your description of a "typical Singaporean" is and you are probably stupid enough to post it here.
I figuered you meant to place an "M" with your 80 but I made my point because all of your posts are poorly written, lack adult logic and have always come across with an arrogance as if you were God's gift to aviation.
You are so lacking in education, you actually believe that you are anonymous on this web site. Believe me your IT savvy employers know exactly who you are and have done for some time. Your contract will be up in the forseeable future and you can probably guarantee you will be 'on your bike' sunshine. Nice time to be joining the so called "70%"
I wont be loosing sleep when you are sent on your no paid leave, guys like you deserve no better. Its your compatriots I feel sorry for.
I have heard enough garbage from CARGOJOCK now so I have decided to make it my mission from now on to take issue with him. Anymore dumb, biased, angry, ignorant posts from him will get a reaction from me and I feel it will be like a cat playing with a rather dim mouse
Thanks CDRW for spelling my name more correctly than I do. Your Shona is better than mine.
Thanks Parabellum for letting us know what BCF really stands for. Our 'in house tame clown', CARGOJOCK, thinks it is something else
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CargoJerk, you think a typical Singaporean does not know what a BCF is? You actually do not realise that there are more Singaporeans who have flown the BCF than the pilots in SIA Cargo - I say this as a fact and not to discredit the good guys in SIAC.
What do you mean by this line (it's not even a proper sentence), "why not you robots are abbreviation wizards"? What you write comfirms what Chambudzi thinks of your lack of education. It's difficult to try and figure what you are trying to convey; and it makes me wonder how you managed to get a Level 6 for your English in aviation. I think you should be assessed for your grasp of English every year during your Line Check - and that's being kind; because you do not deserve to be rated at all as capable of using English in R/T.
You also regard a typical Singaporean as one who cannot figure out if there's a million or there isn't. Singapore is a financial centre, and I don't have to say any more whether a typical S'porean knows about the millions or not. I suppose you are ignorant of this. You should change your Location from "Singapore" to "Under a coconut shell". That's how the Malays would describe you; as someone who lives in his own world and does not know what is going on around him. You don't even realise that Chambudzi is being sarcastic about your missing "million". Obviously, he is not so dumb as to be unable to figure it out.
Duh......
What do you mean by this line (it's not even a proper sentence), "why not you robots are abbreviation wizards"? What you write comfirms what Chambudzi thinks of your lack of education. It's difficult to try and figure what you are trying to convey; and it makes me wonder how you managed to get a Level 6 for your English in aviation. I think you should be assessed for your grasp of English every year during your Line Check - and that's being kind; because you do not deserve to be rated at all as capable of using English in R/T.
You also regard a typical Singaporean as one who cannot figure out if there's a million or there isn't. Singapore is a financial centre, and I don't have to say any more whether a typical S'porean knows about the millions or not. I suppose you are ignorant of this. You should change your Location from "Singapore" to "Under a coconut shell". That's how the Malays would describe you; as someone who lives in his own world and does not know what is going on around him. You don't even realise that Chambudzi is being sarcastic about your missing "million". Obviously, he is not so dumb as to be unable to figure it out.
Duh......
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When referring to extinguishers then BCF means that type.
When referring to B744 Freighters then if you google BCF Freighters it tells you it is Boeing Converted Freighters. Clearly I would have thought in the context that CARGOJOCK mentioned it was the latter.Certainly those in SQ Cargo should know that as nobody was talking about extinguishers?
When in doubt google it
Whilst having no time for some of CJ's remarks Chambudzi, clearly English is not CJ's first language so it is unfair to pick him up on grammar etc. By all means have a go at the content of his posts. I guess that English is NOT your first language either as in your last post there are a huge number of basic spelling and punctuation errors! I make no claim to be perfect in that area which is why I never pick on people for it unless someone else commits similar errors and yet has a go at others for the same thing.
When referring to B744 Freighters then if you google BCF Freighters it tells you it is Boeing Converted Freighters. Clearly I would have thought in the context that CARGOJOCK mentioned it was the latter.Certainly those in SQ Cargo should know that as nobody was talking about extinguishers?
When in doubt google it
Whilst having no time for some of CJ's remarks Chambudzi, clearly English is not CJ's first language so it is unfair to pick him up on grammar etc. By all means have a go at the content of his posts. I guess that English is NOT your first language either as in your last post there are a huge number of basic spelling and punctuation errors! I make no claim to be perfect in that area which is why I never pick on people for it unless someone else commits similar errors and yet has a go at others for the same thing.
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cj - remember this old saying. do what the Romans do. if Singaporeans like to use "la" and you have DECIDED to join a culture that uses "la", live with it LA. Do i need to explain it clearer? don't be such s.t.e.r.e.o.t.y.p.e. an elephant in a swamp of rats does have a cause for concern.
cj - remember this old saying. do what the Romans do. if Singaporeans like to use "la" and you have DECIDED to join a culture that uses "la", live with it LA. Do i need to explain it clearer? don't be such s.t.e.r.e.o.t.y.p.e. an elephant in a swamp of rats does have a cause for concern.
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What would we do without the oh so parental Millerscourt.
I went to bed having baited my hook for the small minded clown CARGOJOCK and instead of bringin him in - screaming and yelling like the child he is - I get the miserably minded little Millerscourt. So be it.
Thank you for your school masters report on my "huge number" of grammatical and spelling mistakes short arse but I think you should perhaps read my posts more carefully. If you had you would realise my arguement with the clown is nothing to do with spelling or grammar. He takes no care in the language of his posts, with how he writes them and what he says, so now he has a fight on his hands that he has run away from like a coward.
Why dont you rather comment on CARGOJOCK'S posts millerscourt. You know they are objectionable but I guess they serve your anti SIA agenda. Everything against SIA is good for you isnt it Millerscourt. Afterall, he says the angry things you arnt dim enough to say but you love egging him on hence your support for him.
The big picture truth is SIA rewarded you with a well paid job for around 15 years with 3 aircraft types you could never have flown in your previous outfit. You served your mini career here angrily with your cup half empty and then left in a huff. What an absolute waste of a flying life.
Thanks for your support southermtn, you hit the nail on the head about CARGOJOCK . He has persistantly called us names like "mainline rats" and far worse so from now on every post I make about him will include the perfectly appropriate word "clown". I am going to lower myself to his level of name calling and I suggest everyone does the same because I know it gets under his skin.
winglet- CJ is not akin to an elephant among rats, more likely an immature, low IQ mouse among a thousand wiley cats.
I went to bed having baited my hook for the small minded clown CARGOJOCK and instead of bringin him in - screaming and yelling like the child he is - I get the miserably minded little Millerscourt. So be it.
Thank you for your school masters report on my "huge number" of grammatical and spelling mistakes short arse but I think you should perhaps read my posts more carefully. If you had you would realise my arguement with the clown is nothing to do with spelling or grammar. He takes no care in the language of his posts, with how he writes them and what he says, so now he has a fight on his hands that he has run away from like a coward.
Why dont you rather comment on CARGOJOCK'S posts millerscourt. You know they are objectionable but I guess they serve your anti SIA agenda. Everything against SIA is good for you isnt it Millerscourt. Afterall, he says the angry things you arnt dim enough to say but you love egging him on hence your support for him.
The big picture truth is SIA rewarded you with a well paid job for around 15 years with 3 aircraft types you could never have flown in your previous outfit. You served your mini career here angrily with your cup half empty and then left in a huff. What an absolute waste of a flying life.
Thanks for your support southermtn, you hit the nail on the head about CARGOJOCK . He has persistantly called us names like "mainline rats" and far worse so from now on every post I make about him will include the perfectly appropriate word "clown". I am going to lower myself to his level of name calling and I suggest everyone does the same because I know it gets under his skin.
winglet- CJ is not akin to an elephant among rats, more likely an immature, low IQ mouse among a thousand wiley cats.
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What a petulant little brat you are. If you understood English you will see that I said I had no time for some of CJ's remarks so go back and suck on your toy you naughty little boy.
What a petulant little brat you are. If you understood English you will see that I said I had no time for some of CJ's remarks so go back and suck on your toy you naughty little boy.
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Here's a ? So how many Expats did not get renewed? When does SQ plan more hiring on all fleets? Those Expats that do not get renewed, will they be offered contracts at a later date or did SQ use this as a way to rid themselves of some dead wood? Any profit share or is it really that bad?
EK is making money but nowhere near the amount to pay a bonus.
EK is making money but nowhere near the amount to pay a bonus.