If you want to work in China..!!
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Hi Huntair2,
Here is the link for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of PR China.
All the countries who have current relations with China are listed, South Africa is on the list since 1st Jan 1998, so the rumours is not true.
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You'll need to translate the above page using ie Google Translate
Good luck!
Here is the link for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of PR China.
All the countries who have current relations with China are listed, South Africa is on the list since 1st Jan 1998, so the rumours is not true.
??????????
You'll need to translate the above page using ie Google Translate
Good luck!
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Huntair2, I can't speak for the Chinese authorities but you will find that the State owned airlines usually employ experienced foreign pilots for Captain positions while foreign F/Os may find jobs in privately owned carriers.
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Thanks for the replies. I will contact the Airline and get them to confirm the passport issue. It does sound strange as the two countries have diplomatic relations.
Unless some clown in SA has recently offended someone in China.
Unless some clown in SA has recently offended someone in China.
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Current CAAC Country Blacklist for Pilots looking
Afghanistan
Algeria
Azerbaijan
Bangladesh
Bosnia-Herzegoving
Chad
Columbia
Indonesia
Iran
Iraq
Jordan
Kazakhstan
Kenya
Kyrgyzstan
Lebanon
Libya
Nigeria
Pakistan
Palestine
Somalia
Srilanka
Turkey
Turkmen istan
Tajikistan
Uzbekistan
Yemen
Algeria
Azerbaijan
Bangladesh
Bosnia-Herzegoving
Chad
Columbia
Indonesia
Iran
Iraq
Jordan
Kazakhstan
Kenya
Kyrgyzstan
Lebanon
Libya
Nigeria
Pakistan
Palestine
Somalia
Srilanka
Turkey
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Guys, anybody has any info on which recruitment agency does hiring for Sichuan Airlines besides VOR/China aviation recruitment? Not willing to take my chances with them....PM me please...
Thanks in advances
Thanks in advances
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passport issue
huntair2,
Frustrating. But the door is not closed yet, you need a strong hand in China to help you out in case alternative passport from another country is not an option.
Frustrating. But the door is not closed yet, you need a strong hand in China to help you out in case alternative passport from another country is not an option.
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you could try diplomatic channel
Huntair2,
If I were u, I would go through diplomatic way(RSA Embassy in Beijing?)
I knew a guy worked it out this way(joint efforts from agent/airline as well)..
If I were u, I would go through diplomatic way(RSA Embassy in Beijing?)
I knew a guy worked it out this way(joint efforts from agent/airline as well)..
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Hello, I am interested on the same info that post #128, about Sichuan Airlines and other recruitment agencies different than VOR Holdings. I will appreciate any comment about the airline and live there.
PM me if you prefer.
Thanks a lot.
PM me if you prefer.
Thanks a lot.
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The question about South Africans, or any other nationality, might not be a rule as such. The CAAC does a very thorough background check, including calling your home country's civil authority. If they have 20 boxes to fill, and they can only fill 19, you don't pass. Maybe South Africa, for some reason, won't satisfy their security requirements.
They got burned in the past by bogus credentials, and they are hard over the other way now. Unfortunately in filtering out the chaff, they might be filtering out some real targets as well. And there is probably nothing that can be done about it. TIC (This IS China)
Good luck, however
They got burned in the past by bogus credentials, and they are hard over the other way now. Unfortunately in filtering out the chaff, they might be filtering out some real targets as well. And there is probably nothing that can be done about it. TIC (This IS China)
Good luck, however
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probeus,
once you work in china on a chinese visa, what are the conditions to leave the country (for leave, off days, etc) ?
I heard that middle eastern countries are "impris
g" their staff by imposing exit regulations/permits on them.... Whats the story concerning that with China?
Cheers
once you work in china on a chinese visa, what are the conditions to leave the country (for leave, off days, etc) ?
I heard that middle eastern countries are "impris
g" their staff by imposing exit regulations/permits on them.... Whats the story concerning that with China?Cheers
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I can only speak for the airline I work for, but have heard nothing different from other pilots in China, as compared to the ME. You are a citizen of your home country, working on a work Visa in China. Your passport is your own. Break a law (including being involved in an aviation mishap) and all bets are off. That exists in all countries, however. Other than that, you are a foreigner, and free to leave at any time. It is far more difficult to stay here for most foreign workers, than to leave.
Overall: No BS in that regard, specifically like Qatar Airways where they hold your passport while "in country".
Goods in China?
China is welcoming to visitors, including foreigners working there. That is their culture.
Money is very good.
Economy is stable, for now. LOL
If you work for a good company, or just get lucky, you will be treated like a rock star.
Bads in China?
No english, bad air, gotta be careful what you eat and drink, gotta be careful about medical care. Same Same many places.
They fine you for QAR events. It is their law, and also applies to their local pilots, and if you get one, they also charge the last check airman that signed you off.
If you work for a bad airline, they might tell you that you require additional training, by them, at your cost. I have heard this happens a lot, but not at the airline I work for.
This is all I know, after 8 months.
Overall: No BS in that regard, specifically like Qatar Airways where they hold your passport while "in country".
Goods in China?
China is welcoming to visitors, including foreigners working there. That is their culture.
Money is very good.
Economy is stable, for now. LOL
If you work for a good company, or just get lucky, you will be treated like a rock star.
Bads in China?
No english, bad air, gotta be careful what you eat and drink, gotta be careful about medical care. Same Same many places.
They fine you for QAR events. It is their law, and also applies to their local pilots, and if you get one, they also charge the last check airman that signed you off.
If you work for a bad airline, they might tell you that you require additional training, by them, at your cost. I have heard this happens a lot, but not at the airline I work for.
This is all I know, after 8 months.
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The last thing is that you wanna be stuck in the country you are working... like some countries in the pit.
Selling extra training is not the way.. Pass the screening or dont pass and leave it.
I do appreciate your reply, mate. I suppose you fly for C.A. based in CAN.
Any drivers there with you who have their contracts with dpi and/or parc?
Selling extra training is not the way.. Pass the screening or dont pass and leave it.
I do appreciate your reply, mate. I suppose you fly for C.A. based in CAN.
Any drivers there with you who have their contracts with dpi and/or parc?
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I am with Parc. There are no pilots at BCA with DPI. A few here are with Wasinc, and more with Rishworth. At the moment, Rishworth appears to behaving themselves in China, probably trying to get market share as they think the market here is going to be big. They are probably right as long as the economy here doesn't implode. Rishworth, being Rishworth, I am sure will eventually be true to themselves, which is basically white collar criminals.
The job here at BCA is really good, but they are having growing pains. Right now in CAN we are flying mostly Lucky Air flights out of Kunming. Both airlines are subsidiaries of Hainan.
Treatment here currently is awesome. I hope it stays that way.
The job here at BCA is really good, but they are having growing pains. Right now in CAN we are flying mostly Lucky Air flights out of Kunming. Both airlines are subsidiaries of Hainan.
Treatment here currently is awesome. I hope it stays that way.
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Hmmm
Probe, get your facts straight my friend. There were 2 DPI pilots at BCA for the past 2 years. One just finished his contract, the other one still here
Tom, do your homework... SHZ pilots work more days per month to get guarantee, plus there are a few other complaints from some of my "friends" there...
Tom, do your homework... SHZ pilots work more days per month to get guarantee, plus there are a few other complaints from some of my "friends" there...
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Query
I have a question.
I applied to an airline recently and I was told to pay RMB10,000 for foreign licence verification fee. (Those who have applied should know which airline I am referring to)
May I know is this a norm for airlline to do this?
I applied to an airline recently and I was told to pay RMB10,000 for foreign licence verification fee. (Those who have applied should know which airline I am referring to)
May I know is this a norm for airlline to do this?
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JotaJota;
Sorry I thought all the Island guys were Rishworth or Wasinc. I have been watching the contract world for about 3 years, and didn't know much about DPI till about 1.5 years ago. All the FNG's are either Parc, Rishworth, or Wasinc, as of May this year. At least the ones that I know about.
For potential pilots:
As far as flying and days off, it is a moving target, and by the time a pilot screens, trains, and gets on line, it will be different. Maybe better, maybe worse. What we do now might be radically different than what we do 1 year from now.
Sorry I thought all the Island guys were Rishworth or Wasinc. I have been watching the contract world for about 3 years, and didn't know much about DPI till about 1.5 years ago. All the FNG's are either Parc, Rishworth, or Wasinc, as of May this year. At least the ones that I know about.
For potential pilots:
As far as flying and days off, it is a moving target, and by the time a pilot screens, trains, and gets on line, it will be different. Maybe better, maybe worse. What we do now might be radically different than what we do 1 year from now.