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ATR capt at KINGFISHER

Old 8th Sep 2008, 14:59
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ATR capt at KINGFISHER

Hello, I am new at PPRuNe but have searched for ?. Would like to get info from any current ATR capt at KINGFISHER.
1. Do they still have you pay for your way to interview. What can I expect for ?. most post almost year old on these forums

2. What kind of lines are common for the schedules.

3. Have 1200 hrs pic on ATR, but have not flown the airplane in 12 months
will they get you current. Just furloughed from american co.

4.Can you commute back to the states.

5. Still safe to bring family over.

6. Can one eventually upgrade to another a/c within the co.

Thanks for your input
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Old 10th Sep 2008, 08:05
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Jet Airways is in DIRE need of ATR drivers...conatct them ASAP.
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Old 10th Sep 2008, 14:26
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What's the upgrade time to the jet for ATR drivers? Heard a rumor that some Indian airlines were promoting their ATR captains to jet captain without going through the right seat first, is that true?
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Old 10th Sep 2008, 14:43
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if you dont have @ least 100 hours PIC type say A320 or B737
you wont go to the party...................its DGCA req.
india is safe, no problem with family, never has been an issue
you can commute, all the airlines now give either the money to go or the will give you economy class ticket up and down when off
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Old 11th Sep 2008, 08:32
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Forget the upgrade at KF

No upgrade to A320/330 at Kingfisher, if they promise you st. don´t buy it (DGCA rule is no problem if company provides the training). You can ask guys who have been flying with the company from the beginning (over 3 years) and after all the promises had been made the are still jumping shorthauls with ATR...
To bring family is safe, food, schools and medical facilities is no problem, but the quality of life depends quite significantly on the city you are based...
At KF you would be flying all over India, nice and colorful country.
The serious issue at KF is rostering - no valid roster, only phone calls the evening before. Means no privat life, you never know if they don´t position you the same day evening for next few days somewhere (which happens very often).
Money on time, recurrent sim no prob.
My suggestion - go to JET, flight ops / rostering under control and better money.
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Old 13th Sep 2008, 08:44
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Thumbs down kingfisher to avoid

you should avoid this air carrier , i flew for them last two years, and every day you have to fight against a inefficient management, inefficient roster after three years they are still unable to give you a roster for the next week, you know your roster at 5pm for day after. you are a slave for this air carrier.
they piss you off to buy your weeks off because they dont have enough pilots. But they pay your weeks off cheaper than your normal weeks.
when i resigned they didnt pay weeks off they owed to me, they did that also with other captains. i stop there because i can write 2 pages on stupid things who happen with them
Bombay management is so inefficient and stupid , with one of the best contract on atr they still not understand why they dont find pilots.
best choice is jet airways, i ve a friend who work in this company and he is happy
i confirm no upgrade on airbus, for that go to vietnam airlines but you will have to pay around 1000€ for your screening, hotel, pick up, air tickets even on vietnam airlines
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Old 16th Sep 2008, 14:06
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yup, the news is true Jet is surely in dire need of ATR drivers so much so that they have even asked some of thier capts who transitioned from the ATR to the 737 to go back on the ATR, expecting delivery of about 10 ATR'S in the coming year or two
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Old 17th Sep 2008, 05:17
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Cool

Can anybody shed light on contact point of Jetairways?
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Old 17th Sep 2008, 06:24
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try HR at Jet Airways -
[email protected]
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Old 17th Sep 2008, 06:49
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guys, please don't go through any Recruitment firm when you can apply to the company directly.
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Old 17th Sep 2008, 16:30
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Cebu Pacific is currently hiring type rated ATR 72-500 TRIs and Captains. If you want to go direct you can email your resume to [email protected]

Best regards.

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Old 17th Sep 2008, 20:08
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Hey Sam, are you with CEB HR? Are the FO slots for the ATR full already?
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Old 18th Sep 2008, 06:58
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I'm with Flt. Ops. There are still a few FO slots open but we don't seem to have any problem with FO recruitment.
  • Expat TRIs of course should be type rated. Preferably with a minimum time of 3000 hrs total, 1500 PIC, 500 as TRI on type.
  • Expat Captains should be type rated. 3000 hours total time, 1500 hours PIC, 500 on type.
  • Local Captains should hold a Philippine passport or have the legal right to live and work in the Philippines. 3000 hours total, 1500 hours PIC, 500 hours multi engine turbine time. ATPL holder.
  • Local FOs should hold a Philippine passport or have the legal right to live and work in the Philippines. Minimum 500 hours total, preferably with 100 hours multi engine time. CPL/IR holder.
Best regards.

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Old 18th Sep 2008, 11:23
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Many Thanks, Sam. I heard that CEB might take all options on the ATR's. If that's the case, that would be awesome!
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Old 19th Sep 2008, 03:38
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Thumbs up Jet Airways ATR

Contact Jet fast...really good deal
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Old 27th Sep 2008, 18:43
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does anybody have the details on the benefits, such as it commutable? Pay for atr capts...

Is housing avialable? Included?

I have PIC time on Both the 737 and atr 42/72.
Thanks for any input...
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Old 28th Sep 2008, 06:08
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jet airways conditions for ATR

TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYEMENT OF ATR 72-500
RATED TRE, TRI AND LINE CAPTAINS

Pilot Conditions
Contract Length
3 year contract renewable every year subject to Indian DGCA approval.
Basic Fee
8 weeks ON 2 weeks OFF basis


TRE – USD 10,200 per month
TRI - USD 9,700 per month
Line Captain - USD 8,500 per month
Qualifications
Following minimum qualifications are necessary:


TRE – 4,500 Total Hours including 1,250 hrs on type as PIC with a minimum of 50 hrs instructional experience on type.
TRI – 4,000 Total Hours including 1,000 hrs on type as PIC with a minimum of 50 hrs instructional experience on type.
Line Captain – A minimum of 3000 hours of total flying out of which 500 hours as PIC or total of 2000 hours as PIC with minimum of 100 hours in command on type
Screening Process
Jet will be responsible for all costs associated with short listed Crew Members attending a screening/ selection process. The costs will include air tickets, ground transportation, accommodation, simulator and a per diem of US$ 50 while attending the screening process.
Base
India
Overtime Payment
US$ 90 per hour over 80 hours/month.
Current Crew Roster Pattern
Pilots will be scheduled on a 8 weeks ON 2 weeks OFF basis.


Leave

30 days paid leave in 12 months (pro-rated for any part of year). This includes the time off available to the Crew Member for renewing licenses, medicals and proficiency from the jurisdiction of the licensing authority of the crew member’s home country. This is to be taken in consultation with Jet and the Crew Member. Details of expiry of medical and license renewal to be provided on joining.
Sick leave
10 days sick leave in 12 months
License Renewal / Medical / Proficiency
The Crew Member is responsible for renewing his license, medicals and proficiency from the jurisdiction of the licensing authority of the crew member’s home country. This is to be taken in consultation with the Airline and the Crew Member. This period is included in the Annual Leave period mentioned above. Details of expiry of medical and license renewal to be provided on joining.
Accommodation


The Company shall provide you with a 2 bedroom furnished accommodation in a residential locality at the option of the Company. In case you source your own accommodation you shall be paid USD 1800 net p.m as accommodation expenses plus INR 10,000 for incidental expenses.




Travel Benefits
Jet Airways shall make travel benefits available to the Crew Member and his qualifying family members, including ID travel, according to Jet Airways’ current policies. Family shall mean legally married spouse and 2 children upto the age of 24 years.
Initial Travel
Jet shall arrange and pay for the costs of positive space economy class air tickets for the Crew Members’ travel from their Home Residence to the Base Residence at the beginning of the contract and from the Base Residence to their Home Residence at the completion of the Assignment Period.
Excess Baggage
Each Crew Member will be reimbursed the cost of excess baggage allowance of 50 kgs. At commencement and termination of assignment. The same can be claimed through petty cash voucher available with the Expat Cell
Taxation


Jet Airways will only be responsible for taxation in India
Non Compete
Unless dismissed by Jet Airways or contract terminated by mutual agreement, Pilot may not be able to work for another airline in India for a period of 12 months unless this is waived off in writing by Jet Airways.
RHS Qualification
Must be RHS qualified
Benefits
  1. On Successfully completion of each year of your three year contract of employment, you would receive a lump sum payment of USD 6,600 net as Loyalty Bonus


  1. On completion of 1.5 years of service with Jet Airways, an internal assessment would be done wherein Line Captains would be upgraded to TRI at company’s cost subject to the approval of the concerned regulatory authorities of the respective Expat’s home country. The onus of obtaining approval from the regulatory authority for the same rest with the concerned pilot.

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Old 28th Sep 2008, 14:07
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one more airline looking for ATR pilots in India..its deccan express cargo..you may find more details in their site www.deccanexpress.in
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Old 30th Sep 2008, 08:10
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must be Y a certain SE Asian ATR new start's bond is so ridiculous. scared people run off there.
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Old 30th Sep 2008, 09:22
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deccan's ATR's are coming next year.
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