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The Mas Airasia War

Old 8th May 2008, 08:53
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The Mas Airasia War

I Have Been Reading On The Malaysian Newspapers Online The War That Is Going On In Malaysia With Mas And Ak.

I Really Not Undestand This Man Tf And His Statements.

He Is Such A Sore Loser.

I Think Mas Has All The Rights In Doing Whatever They Want With Their Promotion Ideas.

Mas Domestic Sector Is Only Filled Up 70% Load Factor So They Have Decided To Give The Balance 30% As $0 Fare And Make A Few Bucks On Tax.

Dont Understand Why Tf Is So Sore About That.

We All Know That Tf Has The Backing Of The Present Goverment With His Connection.

He Got His Much Wanted Singapore Route...and Ak Has Pinched So Many Pilots,cabin Crew And Ground Staff From Mas...

Tf Statement Was "we Got Better Planes,better Food With Their Hot Roticanai Onboard And Better Cabin Crew"...

Come On With This Kind Of Statement He Is Losing The Plot...(the Share Price At The Moment Speaks For Itself)..

He Said The He Will pay The Difference If Mas Fare Is Cheaper..he Should Keep The Diffrence And Pay And Treat His Staff Better I Guess


But I Have Never Heard A Single Word ,complain Or Bad Remark From The Mas Ceo About Ak....hats Off!!!!
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Old 8th May 2008, 09:45
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I have been wondering what is happening with AK. The share price dropped from RM 2.00 to RM 1.22 in the last 6 months.

http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=5...=on&z=m&q=l&c=

Any feedback?
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Old 8th May 2008, 12:58
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He Is Losing The Plot.............very true..you can see it in his interviews...he talks as he own the world and is king of the aviation world...getting too big for his own shoes....his fall is not far...
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Old 9th May 2008, 07:56
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TF`s certainly getting to fat for his boots,the runaway success is beginning to get too his head. It`s good finally MH has decided to give AK a run for it`s money. MH decision to play the game with the same rules will at least create some check and balance on AK. Nothing like healthy competition, good for the public. As for TF`s remarks, just take it with a pinch of salt. I`d say, it`s bloody good, his feathers are ruffled!!!

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Old 9th May 2008, 12:23
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TF being a sore loser indeed...
Let's see what Air Asia just promoted...

AirAsia, the true low fare airline, provides the lowest fares for all flights in our extensive route network, both domestic and international. We boast a spanking new aircraft fleet, great in-flight food and friendly service without compromising on our safety standards. You have to admit, it's a bargain!

Smart consumers know the difference. Get your calculator out and start doing the math. Calculators don't lie.

AirAsia (RM) 0-Fare Carrier (RM)
44.50 76.00 Airport Tax + Fuel Surcharge + Insurance + Admin Fee
15 0 Promo Fare*
3 0 Baggage Fee**
RM 62.50 RM 76.00 You Pay
*Applicable for domestic flights only
** For pre-booked check baggage online
He's still playing the game.
OK, if MH converts the fare to 44.50 fuel surcharge plus 18RM promo fare, would TF still complain or would he eat his words?

*laughing my head off*

So, we now have lower than Zero fare on AK, without compromising their safety standards... 3.8G landings anyone?
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Old 9th May 2008, 13:40
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Pk-kar Mate U Nailed It..

Tf And His Red Bus Company Is A Joke...cant Believe It They Can Come Up With Utter Stupid Statements Like He Has Been Doing..

When I Talked To People Around Who Travel Airasia The Only Thing You Can See When Airasia Start Boarding Is 180 Odd Pax Running Into This Red Bus For A Seat..

I Dont Know What Service He Is Talking About...

To Me What Mas Did With This Promo Fare Is Spot On...

It Just Got Tf Feathers Up...

I Dont Know Why Tf Is Comparing Ak To Mas...

Come On Mate Your Not In The Same League...move On!!!!!
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Old 9th May 2008, 14:13
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Why do you type the first letter of each word in capitals? Isn't is time consuming? It sure is difficult to read.
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Old 10th May 2008, 02:41
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Dear NZLeardriver,

Probably best if you stick with the sheep.
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Old 10th May 2008, 03:26
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WOOBLAH...
I knew it was just a matter of time until we see you posting on an AK topic

Sheep? Hang on, isn't that what TF is looking for? So he can flog them to fly all day, no need for showers, just the occasional disinfectant bath (can be done to coincide with the B or C Checks), and feed them fodder... and no matter what you throw at them they'll obey the sheep dog or go "Baaa'aa'a'aa'aaa."

At least the guys there are still... humans... imagine if TF got sheep in the cockpit...

QAR,
seriously, the guys at QZ are shaking their heads whenever TF makes a statement like this in Mly... they're VERY happy TF hasn't made any crazy comments here in Indoland.

Time for TF to let someone else run the AK PR stunts and let him focus on Looney Tunes Hotels
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Old 11th May 2008, 14:57
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I always hear people outside AirAsia especially MAS people taunting Air Asia.

Funny thing is I never heard any complains,grudges,critics from Air Asia's own pilots and staffs.All of them are for TF and all are highly motivated.

Funny isn't it?
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Old 11th May 2008, 15:17
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CAT IIIB,

how you expect AAsia's driver to complain when they're flying their ass off 100 hr/ month?

Doubt they even have time to read PPRuNe...
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Old 12th May 2008, 00:06
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Noone from AK complained because NONE have the sense of belonging at AK.Why make noise while you're just using it as a stepping stone in your career?Furthermore,it would be better to catch up some rest after those hectic roster.

AK fuel hedging is considered too risky by most financial people.Hence share price dropped.TF is jumpy over the competition as this would hurt it at its down
time like rubbing salt into the wound.Just wait for next year financial result.

Cheap fares are for those who have no choices,those who can effort,would gladly pay a little more for better value.KLIA LCCT congestion is worse than city bus terminal,people sitting on all over the floor.At peak hours,it is similar to
some train stations in India,especially the smell.
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Old 12th May 2008, 15:24
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Angel TF=sore loser

hey guys,was in kul 2day and got a chance to read the star paper...tf is a sore loser in a big way.its ok for that fat ass to steal pilots from other airlines,he does not care what or who he steps on....but when a pilot from aa wants to leave the fat bangla will call the other airline and complain.
why are the pilots and crew in aa letting tf screw them...its very good that MAS and FIREFLY are giving the fatty a run .when are people going to realize that tf is a big conman.....open your eyes la.

the mgt at aa are just puppets who get a fat paycheck for being yes man....good for them... i hear that the asst to the great char koay has step down ?

anyway,guess that the fatty will get his way and the world will still be conned by the BANGLA and his merry men.
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Old 12th May 2008, 15:24
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My first posting in this forum and I would like to ask all of you if either TF has ever paid the landing and parking charges in KLIA since he had been given the waiver for 5years???I would say and bet when Air Asia X flies to London,will he get the waiver of overflight charges flying over few countries or ask the Malaysian government to talk to most authorities of FOC,cheap skate?
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Old 15th May 2008, 04:07
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Grrr

Still can't understand how Doc M could send Anwar to jail, while he had TF as his own personal butt-boy. How far does one have to bend over for a Datuk-ship? Ask TF..... but don't expect a "straight" answer.
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Old 15th May 2008, 16:41
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Well, the price war at least shows some true colours.
The today local malaysian newspaper I saw there was a Mr. Tony F. saying that the recent MAS initiative was threatining his airline with demise.
There was no level playing field and MAS was now competing with him.
I had to read it two times but it was there, his airline could be in demise.
And we all thought they were invincible.
Here is the stock price of today. Have a look and you may conclude that investors are leaving the ship. RM. 1.16 is USD. 0.36? It is called penny stock I believe.
Disclaimer, i dont want any airline to go under, and AK has given a lot of pilots a job. That you have to give the man, but when things going south, one should not blame the competition cause you started it.




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Old 16th May 2008, 05:18
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I was also surprised to hear TF suggest that the unfair playing field might cause the demise of Air Asia. My thoughts are that Air Asia has done wonders for the Malaysian aviation scene. His high profile complaining about unfair competition has more to do with getting the Malaysian consumer behind his cause and I think they will because they have really benefited from the low fares that have resulted. The low share price has more to do with the fuel hedging policy, or lack of one and the current high oil price and expectation that it may further increase and the impact this will have on profits rather than fundamental flaws in their policy.
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Old 16th May 2008, 08:24
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TF is running

For you guys who like to see TF run for his money...PROOF

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http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.a...518&sec=sports

go to the bottom of the page his name is number 5


thanks

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Old 16th May 2008, 14:26
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This is my view on why AK is on the slide with its share hitting rock bottom.

This is the lowest it has been since the IPO.

Its not just the fuel price

Its how our "malaysian blue eyed boy" MR TF got it badly wrong in his fuel hedging policy

To me firstly AirAsia foundation is not strong.

This is why...
Airasia doesnt have any assets.Both their terminals and training center or academy whatever you call it...its on a piece of land which is leaseD by Malaysia Airport Bhd.

Their A320 doesnt belong to them,they borrowed the money from credit companies around the world by selling their shares to finance the purchase the planes.

and to make things worst the Airasia base value of the share is not RM$1 and its base value is $0.10 so thats why their doesnt have the strength to weather this storm.

And the latest news today was AirAsia owes over RM$5mil to MAB in landing fees and handling charges and this was brought up in the parliment sitting yesterday.

of course i hate to see airasia go down for the sake of their pilots and their staff

But for all his arrogance and the way he treated his staff and pilots I really hope THE SHIT HITS THE FENCE FOR MR TF..
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Old 17th May 2008, 00:31
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Yup! For RM0.10 worth of value at RM1.20,it would be better for an investor to park his money with TNB,TELEKOM or MISC.

It has rose to what it is today largely due to political backing,with the current political scenario,it is not all that rossy red for AA except the crew uniform.
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