Singaporeair Captain recruitment
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Car import....
RnR,Gb777 thanks.Great replies.....!! Arc..double that for you bro.Very helpful posts and replies. The bank guarantee part sounds conducive. Of course I assume that it all boils down to SQ accepting the terms and conditions of a bank guarantee. In my earlier post Cp meant check pilot,TRI-Instructor and TRE-Examiner. So basically I was wondering if one could eventually hope for a career progression within the company on expat terms. I dont think however that one could expect for a managerial position with SQ on same terms.
Also,guys,what would be the procedure (if possible) for me to import my current car from my home country to Singapore for my use.Would it attract huge taxes to import or run/maintain. Cause I know for sure(as understood in the forum) that maintaining a car in Singapore is a HUGE cost by itself. Wou the case be similar if I imported my current vehicle.Thanks again.....
BD
Also,guys,what would be the procedure (if possible) for me to import my current car from my home country to Singapore for my use.Would it attract huge taxes to import or run/maintain. Cause I know for sure(as understood in the forum) that maintaining a car in Singapore is a HUGE cost by itself. Wou the case be similar if I imported my current vehicle.Thanks again.....
BD
Basically forget bringing a car with you, there is an age limit that it must be under, then a large fee plus duties and certificate of entitlement. If you really want one, buy it here and pay it off over ten years at 3.5% interest.
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Expat instructors are not common in SIA, Singaporeans are preferred. One of the requirements was for 5 years service as a Captain with SIA. Cargo has recently appointed some expats as instructors, but "mainline" DECs would be a better option for employment.
Lay-offs occurred after the SARS epidemic caused severe problems - they weren't all expats. Just don't p*ss them off, as SIA operate a '3 strikes and you're out' programme (unofficially of course).
Lay-offs occurred after the SARS epidemic caused severe problems - they weren't all expats. Just don't p*ss them off, as SIA operate a '3 strikes and you're out' programme (unofficially of course).
Then again perhaps it was three?
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BD787,
1. Yes, you can switch to national terms. They will be more than happy with that, and so will alpas.
The negatives to local terms are: no housing, education, gratuity, and signing bonus.
The positives are: If you take up a PR (permanent Residency) you contribute compulsorily to CPF (Central Provident Fund) tax-free approx $1600 ($900 your contribution, balance from company) every month + a portion of your bonus that are treated as extra wages. click on www.cpf.gov.sg for more info. Of course, even on expat terms you have the option of enrolling in the SRS (Supplementary Retirement Scheme) wherein you can contribute approx $15000 every year. That amount is tax deductable, but is taxed at a lower rate at withdrawal...a tax deferred scheme of sorts. Google SRS for more info.
Other positives of PR: Subsidised medical care, govt services, preference for jobs for spouse and family, lower salary requirements for credit cards, lines of credit, convenience of not having to renew status for 10 years, ability to sponsor family on a long-term social visit pass upto 1 year, easier housing loans, etc
2. Training positions are available to all, expats and locals. Given the rate of fleet expansion, the co cannot afford to discriminate. Many expats are in training positions. Other options are Management posts such as MPSD (Mgmt Pilot Special Duties, entry level), FSP (Fleet Safety Pilot), and possibly even upto ACP (Assistant Chief Pilot). Beyond that you need to be a citizen.
You can also contribute in alpas (pilots association) as an expat rep dealing with all expat issues. You can be nominated to the Executive Council.
3. Singapore ATPL. Other Licenses your responsibilty.
4. When push comes to shove, local or expat, if you've been a naughty boy, in a crisis requiring layoffs, you will get "retrenched" (laid off) with benefits. There is no advantage to being local or expat in this regard.
5. No way around the bond.
Importing cars not worth the hassle. You end up paying a lot in taxes, equating to what you'd pay to buy locally.
Now, about the six pack....
1. Yes, you can switch to national terms. They will be more than happy with that, and so will alpas.
The negatives to local terms are: no housing, education, gratuity, and signing bonus.
The positives are: If you take up a PR (permanent Residency) you contribute compulsorily to CPF (Central Provident Fund) tax-free approx $1600 ($900 your contribution, balance from company) every month + a portion of your bonus that are treated as extra wages. click on www.cpf.gov.sg for more info. Of course, even on expat terms you have the option of enrolling in the SRS (Supplementary Retirement Scheme) wherein you can contribute approx $15000 every year. That amount is tax deductable, but is taxed at a lower rate at withdrawal...a tax deferred scheme of sorts. Google SRS for more info.
Other positives of PR: Subsidised medical care, govt services, preference for jobs for spouse and family, lower salary requirements for credit cards, lines of credit, convenience of not having to renew status for 10 years, ability to sponsor family on a long-term social visit pass upto 1 year, easier housing loans, etc
2. Training positions are available to all, expats and locals. Given the rate of fleet expansion, the co cannot afford to discriminate. Many expats are in training positions. Other options are Management posts such as MPSD (Mgmt Pilot Special Duties, entry level), FSP (Fleet Safety Pilot), and possibly even upto ACP (Assistant Chief Pilot). Beyond that you need to be a citizen.
You can also contribute in alpas (pilots association) as an expat rep dealing with all expat issues. You can be nominated to the Executive Council.
3. Singapore ATPL. Other Licenses your responsibilty.
4. When push comes to shove, local or expat, if you've been a naughty boy, in a crisis requiring layoffs, you will get "retrenched" (laid off) with benefits. There is no advantage to being local or expat in this regard.
5. No way around the bond.
Importing cars not worth the hassle. You end up paying a lot in taxes, equating to what you'd pay to buy locally.
Now, about the six pack....
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Point 1
If you choose to become Permanent Resident, your male children will
be called up for military service, (at least if they are in Singapore as PR)
See
http://app.mfa.gov.sg/generator/aspp...pplication.asp
"explanatory notes"
14. Under the Enlistment Act, all male Singapore Citizens and Permanent Residents (PRs) are liable
for National Service (NS) upon reaching 16½ years old. They are required to serve 2 years of fulltime
NS at 18 years old, followed by 40 days of Operationally Ready National Service per year till
the age of 50 years (for officers) or 40 years (for other ranks).
15. Main applicants who are granted PR status under the first generation Professionals, Technical
Personnel and Skilled Workers Scheme or the Investor Scheme are exempted from NS. Male
children who are granted PR status under their parents' sponsorship are liable for NS upon
reaching 16½ years old.
gb
If you choose to become Permanent Resident, your male children will
be called up for military service, (at least if they are in Singapore as PR)
See
http://app.mfa.gov.sg/generator/aspp...pplication.asp
"explanatory notes"
14. Under the Enlistment Act, all male Singapore Citizens and Permanent Residents (PRs) are liable
for National Service (NS) upon reaching 16½ years old. They are required to serve 2 years of fulltime
NS at 18 years old, followed by 40 days of Operationally Ready National Service per year till
the age of 50 years (for officers) or 40 years (for other ranks).
15. Main applicants who are granted PR status under the first generation Professionals, Technical
Personnel and Skilled Workers Scheme or the Investor Scheme are exempted from NS. Male
children who are granted PR status under their parents' sponsorship are liable for NS upon
reaching 16½ years old.
gb
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Cost of a car in SIN
I lived 3 years in SIN (flying for Tiger) and had a car. Bascially, all short haul guys have cars, because you travel to the airport every day. If you are long haul, it's maybe not worth it. Depends on you. Family might want a car.
Prices have come down considerably. If you take a modest model, you get it cheap. 3 taxi rides a day and your car costs are covered.
Advantage with a car: You can take apartments a bit off the route, so you might pay a bit less.
hth,
Dani
Prices have come down considerably. If you take a modest model, you get it cheap. 3 taxi rides a day and your car costs are covered.
Advantage with a car: You can take apartments a bit off the route, so you might pay a bit less.
hth,
Dani
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gb777,
If you as a PR sponsor your male child for PR, then he indeed does become liable to serve National Service (NS), as a second generation PR. The easy way around this is to not sponsor your male child for PR; instead apply for a long-term social visit pass, valid for 1 year, renewable as long as you maintain your PR status.
If you intend to live in Singapore for the very long-term, your son can apply for a PR on his own merits when he lands a job in Singapore. He will then be considered a first generation PR, therefore not liable for NS.
If you as a PR sponsor your male child for PR, then he indeed does become liable to serve National Service (NS), as a second generation PR. The easy way around this is to not sponsor your male child for PR; instead apply for a long-term social visit pass, valid for 1 year, renewable as long as you maintain your PR status.
If you intend to live in Singapore for the very long-term, your son can apply for a PR on his own merits when he lands a job in Singapore. He will then be considered a first generation PR, therefore not liable for NS.
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NS....!
locblue....thx again.Just outta curiosity,what if your male child is say 19 when you apply for PR....does he still HAVE TO do the NS. And more importantly,what if he has some health issues due which he does'nt/can never pass their NS medicals ( i'm sure they'll have one...!!). Just wondering.....
Bout d six pack....offer just doubled for u mate....!! You're a rockstar....
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Oh....also,would'nt a bank guarantee suffice in lieu of the bond if my bank,with its Singapore branch, guarantee's me for the bond amount and period. Basically,transfer the funds in the local (singapore) branch of my bank in a fixed deposit where it gathers mebbe some interest too over the 5 year period.....got that from a ppruner too.....lol.Your comments please....!!
Bout d six pack....offer just doubled for u mate....!! You're a rockstar....
........!!Oh....also,would'nt a bank guarantee suffice in lieu of the bond if my bank,with its Singapore branch, guarantee's me for the bond amount and period. Basically,transfer the funds in the local (singapore) branch of my bank in a fixed deposit where it gathers mebbe some interest too over the 5 year period.....got that from a ppruner too.....lol.Your comments please....!!
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Please excuse my curiosity but why on earth would you want to become a PR of Singapore having joined SQ presumably on expat terms as a B777 Captain and then have to go onto national terms?
Please excuse my curiosity but why on earth would you want to become a PR of Singapore having joined SQ presumably on expat terms as a B777 Captain and then have to go onto national terms?
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mc,
I might just start to like singapore a little more than i anticipated.Dont you think.Initial expat terms would obviously be due to fear of the unknown.Would want to tread softly initially,untill I get a feel of things in singapore.Also mebbe give the inflation etc some time to settle down(if).Cause,by what i've heard,the inflation and the rents have pretty much peaked as of now(touch wood).Only way now is south.....
Just my 2 beers worth.......
I might just start to like singapore a little more than i anticipated.Dont you think.Initial expat terms would obviously be due to fear of the unknown.Would want to tread softly initially,untill I get a feel of things in singapore.Also mebbe give the inflation etc some time to settle down(if).Cause,by what i've heard,the inflation and the rents have pretty much peaked as of now(touch wood).Only way now is south.....
Just my 2 beers worth.......
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I don't think so. If you compare prices with the first "gold rush" in the 90s, they still are much more lower. Remember that there is a limited amount of land available (ok, they reclaim a lot of it).
Nonetheless SIN has a bright future ahead.
Dani
Nonetheless SIN has a bright future ahead.
Dani
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boeingdream787 Cannot see what inflation and rents in Singapore have to do with being a PR. You also seem to have failed to grasp the Bank Guarantee/Bond issue.How well do you understand English?? The Bank does not guarantee the Bond you do.The Bank Guarantee is what the Bank Guarantee hence that is why it is called that.
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BD787,
If your son is 19, he will presumably attend University. He can apply for a Student Pass which is valid for the duration of the course. At the end of the course, has to return to his country of origin, and re-apply for a tourist visa/social visit pass/Employment Pass/Work Permit. Therefore, not liable for NS.
I cannot comment on health issues vis-a-vis NS.
PR vs Expat: I have not heard of too many people switching to local terms from expat terms. In fact, none at all with SIA. Many expats stay on expat terms for 10-20 years until retirement. The loss of expat perks is substantial. The gain in local perks is relatively inconsequential, monetarily. A foreigner can purchase property just as easily as a local. Getting a loan is not that much more difficult. There are other advantages of being on local terms as listed earlier, of course. At the end of the day, your decision.
MC is right about the bank guarantee.
If your son is 19, he will presumably attend University. He can apply for a Student Pass which is valid for the duration of the course. At the end of the course, has to return to his country of origin, and re-apply for a tourist visa/social visit pass/Employment Pass/Work Permit. Therefore, not liable for NS.
I cannot comment on health issues vis-a-vis NS.
PR vs Expat: I have not heard of too many people switching to local terms from expat terms. In fact, none at all with SIA. Many expats stay on expat terms for 10-20 years until retirement. The loss of expat perks is substantial. The gain in local perks is relatively inconsequential, monetarily. A foreigner can purchase property just as easily as a local. Getting a loan is not that much more difficult. There are other advantages of being on local terms as listed earlier, of course. At the end of the day, your decision.
MC is right about the bank guarantee.
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Singapore Age Limit
The B777/A330 captain vacancy notice is vague about the age limit for the position. I am 55 at the present and wonder if that is why there has been no response to my application. A five year contract would put me past age 60 upon completion.
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Bank guarantee
Locblue/mc,
Pls correct me if i'm wrong.Basically,if i have the required funds in my bank in my country of origin(sd56k) and my bank has a singapore branch,then my bank(singapore branch) would be willing to stand guarantor for me for the required amount.Provided of course i deposit or "freeze" the amount in a "fixed term deposit" for the required period.In this case,5 years. Now,IN A CASE LIKE THIS,would'nt the Bank guarantee(alongwith the frozen funds of course....which stay in my name throughout),be sufficient for SIA towards the 'bond'. Well,it worked with my present company.This way the funds are frozen in my name + the bank.BUT the amount also picks up interest over the years....which could be a substantial amount! Which is how I might stand to gain a little bit.IF of course,SIA agrees....
Pls correct me if i'm wrong.Basically,if i have the required funds in my bank in my country of origin(sd56k) and my bank has a singapore branch,then my bank(singapore branch) would be willing to stand guarantor for me for the required amount.Provided of course i deposit or "freeze" the amount in a "fixed term deposit" for the required period.In this case,5 years. Now,IN A CASE LIKE THIS,would'nt the Bank guarantee(alongwith the frozen funds of course....which stay in my name throughout),be sufficient for SIA towards the 'bond'. Well,it worked with my present company.This way the funds are frozen in my name + the bank.BUT the amount also picks up interest over the years....which could be a substantial amount! Which is how I might stand to gain a little bit.IF of course,SIA agrees....
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Locblue/mc,
Pls correct me if i'm wrong.Basically,if i have the required funds in my bank in my country of origin(sd56k) and my bank has a singapore branch,then my bank(singapore branch) would be willing to stand guarantor for me for the required amount.Provided of course i deposit or "freeze" the amount in a "fixed term deposit" for the required period.In this case,5 years. Now,IN A CASE LIKE THIS,would'nt the Bank guarantee(alongwith the frozen funds of course....which stay in my name throughout),be sufficient for SIA towards the 'bond'. Well,it worked with my present company.This way the funds are frozen in my name + the bank.BUT the amount also picks up interest over the years....which could be a substantial amount! Which is how I might stand to gain a little bit.IF of course,SIA agrees....
In a word NO! While what you propose is very logical, logic has nothing to do with SQ's position. They want the money in a joint account, with both parties names on the account and they want it in Singapore. You have to understand SQ wants it both ways as they are the 500lb gorilla and you're not.
Pls correct me if i'm wrong.Basically,if i have the required funds in my bank in my country of origin(sd56k) and my bank has a singapore branch,then my bank(singapore branch) would be willing to stand guarantor for me for the required amount.Provided of course i deposit or "freeze" the amount in a "fixed term deposit" for the required period.In this case,5 years. Now,IN A CASE LIKE THIS,would'nt the Bank guarantee(alongwith the frozen funds of course....which stay in my name throughout),be sufficient for SIA towards the 'bond'. Well,it worked with my present company.This way the funds are frozen in my name + the bank.BUT the amount also picks up interest over the years....which could be a substantial amount! Which is how I might stand to gain a little bit.IF of course,SIA agrees....
In a word NO! While what you propose is very logical, logic has nothing to do with SQ's position. They want the money in a joint account, with both parties names on the account and they want it in Singapore. You have to understand SQ wants it both ways as they are the 500lb gorilla and you're not.
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I have not transferred a single cent to Singapore for my bank guarantee. The Singapore branch of my "home" bank has issued a guarantee to SIA to pay the 56 K whenever SIA wants it.
As a collateral for this my bank first accepted my shares in a European Company. When I bailed out from the stockmarket one year ago they transferred the collateral to my home in Europe.
SIA don't give a s__t about how you guarantee the money towards your bank. They only require the letter from a bank with a branch in Singapore. They don't even know whether you have transferred the money or not.
I have not transferred a single cent to Singapore for my bank guarantee. The Singapore branch of my "home" bank has issued a guarantee to SIA to pay the 56 K whenever SIA wants it.
As a collateral for this my bank first accepted my shares in a European Company. When I bailed out from the stockmarket one year ago they transferred the collateral to my home in Europe.
SIA don't give a s__t about how you guarantee the money towards your bank. They only require the letter from a bank with a branch in Singapore. They don't even know whether you have transferred the money or not.