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Old 14th Feb 2008, 10:17
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Thanks just heard second hand via an old friend that there is no way to go from KAL to Asiana ever but it is possible to go from Asiana to KAL if no longer employed by Asiana. Don't know if this is true 100% ?
Any ideas where tips on the Air Law can be found?
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Old 14th Feb 2008, 11:35
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Asianlonghaul

Asianlonghaul :

tips on the Air Law can be found?
pm me your email, I have some Korean Air Law tips, but you are been warned condition there
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Old 16th Feb 2008, 10:50
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Many thanks speedtwoten have PM'd you.
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Old 16th Feb 2008, 12:27
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Thumbs up tips on the Air Law

LongHaul check your email, let know you got it and good luck
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Old 17th Feb 2008, 14:05
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Many thanks for the info, have been away so have not looked closely yet. Do they have an answer sheet? As I did not see one. Either way a great help!
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Old 18th Feb 2008, 02:13
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I just wrote the exam yesterday. I don't know who was from where but 35 people total. Very easy questions... ELT battery life question, ICAO annex, rules of air, light signals, etc. and one I have never studied before nor in the air law books. 30 minutes and 25 questions. It took most of people 5 mins to finish it.
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Old 19th Feb 2008, 00:53
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living proof--

i flew the brown 734/5 nov 96 to mar 98.

was offered 738 with the blue jan 07 but declined.

cheers-
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Old 19th Feb 2008, 02:10
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Capt John Doe:

Why would you want to work in Korea - or even Japan at that? The culture sucks and they treat you like a second-class citizen (it more predominant in Korea). If you have something good to say, especially about the damn Koreans, you've had too much kool-aid to drink. It's a sh*%&^ place to work and you're not really wanted; unless you're absolutely desperate for a job. I'd like to know what flyguykorea is drinking to defend these bastards so much....

No need to answer your question. The attitude in your post sums it all up. Culturally inept springs to mind.
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Old 19th Feb 2008, 07:41
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Any truth to these rumours

I have also an interview scheduled, now I heard also rumours of trouble at Korean. Is it really that the quality of the applicants has dropped (in this case the selection did not do a good job) or is the problem that the Korean pilots try to get rid of the expats because the feel discriminated? If later is the case it would be quite a risk to leave a present company and go through all this trouble only to end up leaving a few weeks later.
Does anybody have some more information on this subject.
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Old 19th Feb 2008, 09:00
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the only way to know for sure--

is go there and find out for yourself--

it's worth the risk---at least to go to the screening---

no one else can really tell you---
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Old 19th Feb 2008, 10:03
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Senior Kal Expat Pilot Had Different Kind Of Training. Training Without Manuals In English. Now They Have Very Good, Well Written Manuals In Both Korean And English. The Standards And Tolerance Are No Different Then Anyother Airlines Out There. Everybody Who Is Hired; Is Formerly Typed And Very Experienced Flight Crew. The Passing Grade Is Only 70% Or Higher. But... Technically (the Job Is Not Yours Until) The Day You Pass Your Casa Oe Check Ride. The Interview Is Only Formality. Go Figure
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Old 19th Feb 2008, 10:55
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My question

Of course you have your airline job only after you pass all the checks, that is not the problem and it is like that in any airline job.
My question was if there is a feeling of dislike from Korean aircrew against expat, so that many will not pass the exams in the sim or line check on purpose. That is however the claim in this thread.
Can someone shed some light on this?
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Old 19th Feb 2008, 11:05
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Flyingcroc:

To answer your question, that has not been the case in my experience. There will be those who disagree with this, but one can only go by his own experience and not by heresay; on this count, i have to say that i have not encountered those "anti" expat feelings. That is not to say others' did not experience it, just that i have not.

Though there be the perennial problems with schedules & $$$, on balance it has been a more than pleasant existence with them thus far (for me).
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Old 19th Feb 2008, 11:31
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My question was if there is a feeling of dislike from Korean aircrew against expat, so that many will not pass the exams in the sim or line check on purpose.
5 years ago, yes. Even 3 years ago, perhaps so. But these days, it's a different kettle of fish with all screenings sims audited by expat QA crew. If you fail the sim these days, I would say the feeling of dislike from Korean aircrew is the least of your worries.
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Old 20th Feb 2008, 17:34
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Thanks flyguykorea

I know it is not easy anywhere, we just try to do our job and live our lives. Be it in the sandpit or China or wherever. I am professional with my fellow pilots, FO, I like good CRM, never had any issues in life, neither in technical or flying. I know the schedules would be tough but there is also the advantage of home base. It is no better at my airline besides we have no decent roster on top of it.

Thank you for your post.
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Old 21st Feb 2008, 06:50
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Whats wromg at Korean Air ?
Definitely the spelling...!
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Old 22nd Feb 2008, 18:03
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I recently finished my screening interview with KAL. I have over 5000 hours as a Captain in the 777. I busted because something about the sim. I have no idea what that could be. I have never busted a check ride in 30 years as an airline pilot. (major USA carriers). I had no F/O in my sim so no help that way and still was a good ride I thought. I was told by come working expats that to watch out for the ex military instructors, they can be brutal and unforgiving. I had one. There is no recourse or review board. I'm out!
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Old 22nd Feb 2008, 20:52
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Hi!

Doug, I feel very sorry for you.
But be assured you're not loosing much of a deal.
Several other professionals with your experience level has been failed, for some f.....g sad psycos that unfortunately KAL still empower. Some good friends of mine were busted as well for nothing.
Funny is that every time I consider go for an interview with KAL I know this bullshit are still happening. So I realize that it doesn't worth try because it's not serious. Unless, of course, you're in urgent need of a job.
It's just a lottery, if the clown of the day is on a good mood, you're OK, otherwise, you're out!

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Old 24th Feb 2008, 16:56
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KAL Interview

Hello everyone,

I have interview coming in March with KAL, Captain A330
I have no clue as to what will happen in the interview.
Any help will be very much appreciated .

Thank you all.
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Old 24th Feb 2008, 20:11
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Treat your sim check like a lottery...if you get through, well and good. If they flunk you, they save you from some agonising decisions later.
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