Jet Airways B777 recruitment?
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Air India to turn to expat pilots sacked by Jet Airways
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Jet Airways has terminated contracts of no less than 72 employees. Depending on their contracts the termination period is either 1 or 3 months. The number is comprised of those deemed temporarily medically unfit... those in initial training... those on unpaid leave... those on part time contracts. Then ATR and B-737 pilots.
The feeling among the remaining is more will be terminated after the monsoon season.
Air India Express has contracted with Rishworth Aviation to provide them with pilots. I don't think pilots will not be employed directly by AI EX... they will be merely leased to AI EX by Rishworth who will be paid a sum of dollars/ruppees/bazookums or whatever currency for each crew member supplied.
Rishworth will in turn pay their employee/pilot. That is why no per diem or crew transport or health benefits nor loss of license insurance... not to mention other perks.
Perhaps someone who has bitten the bait from Rishworth can share some information.
The feeling among the remaining is more will be terminated after the monsoon season.
Air India Express has contracted with Rishworth Aviation to provide them with pilots. I don't think pilots will not be employed directly by AI EX... they will be merely leased to AI EX by Rishworth who will be paid a sum of dollars/ruppees/bazookums or whatever currency for each crew member supplied.
Rishworth will in turn pay their employee/pilot. That is why no per diem or crew transport or health benefits nor loss of license insurance... not to mention other perks.
Perhaps someone who has bitten the bait from Rishworth can share some information.
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Might use them on some new routes... Their long term plan is or was to get rid of the 777 and replace with A330 (777 being too large)
They have some further A330 on order, so might be to sub in for them until they arrive.
Not flying the 777 myself, but I was told Jet have some of they heaviest 777's around due to their outfitting of the forward cabin.
They have some further A330 on order, so might be to sub in for them until they arrive.
Not flying the 777 myself, but I was told Jet have some of they heaviest 777's around due to their outfitting of the forward cabin.
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Too big to chew.... that was one impression we´ve got back in 2006/7. The developments showed it was true. Maybe it would be time to refit the cabin into more economical consideration and do not blame the wrong side. Aaahhh I forgot: Incredibble India, they do everything theire own way, just to stay one of the wonders of the world.
Now Pre-paid is a saying. I am certain that the security deposit will be taken seriously if they run to TLS and ask for some A330´s. Would have made sense in 2005 already and was also communicated that way but if a Caucasian say´s something in India he is considert either a liar or jealous about the "Indian" success. No just the other way around: Mistakes in Aviation are paid with blood toll. In the 70´ and 80´s the US and the EU made similar mistakes and paid for it. Now with that expirience in the back brain it is nothing else then a warning when some people see the same happen again somewhere else. To have that sight it takes a while for sure and prevention is not jealousy it is to prevent the pain.
The financial decission makers are not the ones who pay the price, the see the ships sinking earlier and leave with the rats first. Always the ordinary people are the drowning ones who suffer the loss of likelihood. If a company is run by a few morons it is difficult to have them in the same boat when the feet get wet as they are always a few levels higher and stay dry when they jump "The Ship". What happens to the people who stay in the mud? They battle against each other instead of taking the advantage of unite themselves, locals with expats and the "green" with the "grey" and achieve something instead of taking the energy to fight against each other.
Jet does not hire and the SWIP is smiling, shortly, the pain can come a long way and stay longer then a Aspirin may relief.
Fly safe and land happy
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Now Pre-paid is a saying. I am certain that the security deposit will be taken seriously if they run to TLS and ask for some A330´s. Would have made sense in 2005 already and was also communicated that way but if a Caucasian say´s something in India he is considert either a liar or jealous about the "Indian" success. No just the other way around: Mistakes in Aviation are paid with blood toll. In the 70´ and 80´s the US and the EU made similar mistakes and paid for it. Now with that expirience in the back brain it is nothing else then a warning when some people see the same happen again somewhere else. To have that sight it takes a while for sure and prevention is not jealousy it is to prevent the pain.
The financial decission makers are not the ones who pay the price, the see the ships sinking earlier and leave with the rats first. Always the ordinary people are the drowning ones who suffer the loss of likelihood. If a company is run by a few morons it is difficult to have them in the same boat when the feet get wet as they are always a few levels higher and stay dry when they jump "The Ship". What happens to the people who stay in the mud? They battle against each other instead of taking the advantage of unite themselves, locals with expats and the "green" with the "grey" and achieve something instead of taking the energy to fight against each other.
Jet does not hire and the SWIP is smiling, shortly, the pain can come a long way and stay longer then a Aspirin may relief.
Fly safe and land happy
NG
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Fullfwd and PT6A,
Ex IAF DECs are hired on the ATR, perm, but will join at current position on the seniority list, junior to the junior most F/O at the time of joining.
B737 NG
HUH?????????
Ex IAF DECs are hired on the ATR, perm, but will join at current position on the seniority list, junior to the junior most F/O at the time of joining.
B737 NG
HUH?????????
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B737NG...washed out of B777, back to the 737s then given a second chance on the triple, barely made it and then gone turkey then now DEC ti Jet. Wow, nice going if the cap fits.
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Maybe
...as far as pretty wealthy grannies, already living confortably on substantial pensions, accepted to go back on much worse contracts than before, there's no room for complaints. Just enjoy and shut up.
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Well boys in my view if you don’t stand up you may as well move on.
The new guys have no respect for you and everyone is out for them self.
The new guys have no respect for you and everyone is out for them self.
Can you elaborate? By the way... all expats may be off the property by March 2013. Directly from the COO's mouth.
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Captjns,
Don't try and figure it out, there are some really weird people on this forum. They live in the black helicopters and conspiracy world reading way too much into things. They think the world revolves around how they think things should be and don't realize people have different reasons for doing things and have different priorities in life. what's good for one person may be bad for another, is something someone who only thinks about themselves won't understand.
Don't try and figure it out, there are some really weird people on this forum. They live in the black helicopters and conspiracy world reading way too much into things. They think the world revolves around how they think things should be and don't realize people have different reasons for doing things and have different priorities in life. what's good for one person may be bad for another, is something someone who only thinks about themselves won't understand.
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Notes from a chap who attended the meeting at MAA on the 10th
Don't know how it effect the triple expats. The 737 fleet was at about 60 before down to 53. That said the reduction is 7 thus far with a further reduction to about 43.
- A330 will be 8-9 aircraft. Expats all gone by end July I think he said
- 737 fleet from 53? down to about 47. Expats gone by March 2013, but aiming for Dec 2012
- ATR fleet resonably stable.. 18-19 aircraft (maybe down 2). Remaining expats good until Dec 2013. Still expecting to get some ATR -600 models end of year.
- Undergoing fleet/route usage review. Same stuff that we know. Problems with fare wars. Fuel prices. Break even model based on $110 / barrel.
- Salary amounts to only about 18% of total expense. Fuel 40% of expense.
- 737 fleet from 53? down to about 47. Expats gone by March 2013, but aiming for Dec 2012
- ATR fleet resonably stable.. 18-19 aircraft (maybe down 2). Remaining expats good until Dec 2013. Still expecting to get some ATR -600 models end of year.
- Undergoing fleet/route usage review. Same stuff that we know. Problems with fare wars. Fuel prices. Break even model based on $110 / barrel.
- Salary amounts to only about 18% of total expense. Fuel 40% of expense.
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Did all of the B737 pilots get 90 notices.....
So far... those in TRV have not received their termination notices
. All but a few expats in BOM and MAA have been sacked
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Apparently all expats on 330's were given notice, should be gone by early Oct.
Very mixed news though as hear two 332's will go but two 333's coming late Fall.
I don't know how they will man all these flights with current upgraded locals many of which are newbies off the 73's and never experienced Euro/N.American winters.
I wish them good luck but think they have moved a little quickly in the name of cost savings etc.
Very mixed news though as hear two 332's will go but two 333's coming late Fall.
I don't know how they will man all these flights with current upgraded locals many of which are newbies off the 73's and never experienced Euro/N.American winters.
I wish them good luck but think they have moved a little quickly in the name of cost savings etc.