Air Asia's 'smooth' landings
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Air Asia's 'smooth' landings
One of Air Asia’s A320 very recently ‘crash’ landed and the recorded severity was not less than 3.5g. It was a training flight and the instructor failed to react appropriately. The aircraft was subsequently stripped in the MAS’s hangar and the landing gears had to be replaced.
Some people here may not like to hear the truth about this timing bomb, so the message to them is – the truth shall set you free. There are a lot of sane people in Air Asia; therefore some of us will continue to inform the public on what is going on inside Dandy’s flying circus.
There is no need to make up stories because some of our guys and girls are ingenious when it comes to endangering public lives that surpasses my imagination.
[FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']I can go on and provide the flight numbers of the said incidents and the names of crew, but this is the rumour network after all and it would not be nice to expose individuals when the fault rests with the rotten system. So, dear Chrome you are welcomed to continue barking and provide amusement for the rest of Air Asia’s community. They know the truth.
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Some people here may not like to hear the truth about this timing bomb, so the message to them is – the truth shall set you free. There are a lot of sane people in Air Asia; therefore some of us will continue to inform the public on what is going on inside Dandy’s flying circus.
There is no need to make up stories because some of our guys and girls are ingenious when it comes to endangering public lives that surpasses my imagination.
[FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']I can go on and provide the flight numbers of the said incidents and the names of crew, but this is the rumour network after all and it would not be nice to expose individuals when the fault rests with the rotten system. So, dear Chrome you are welcomed to continue barking and provide amusement for the rest of Air Asia’s community. They know the truth.
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The aircraft was subsequently stripped in the MAS’s hangar and the landing gears had to be replaced.
BTW, I think the A320 was in the HANGAR....
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Thanks Lesen. Nice photo.
I heard that they had to strip all interior and examine the structure for cracks and bending.
Man, you’ve just spoiled all the fun. Couldn’t you wait for Chrome’s reply first and post the photo after? Ha Ha.
I heard that they had to strip all interior and examine the structure for cracks and bending.
Man, you’ve just spoiled all the fun. Couldn’t you wait for Chrome’s reply first and post the photo after? Ha Ha.
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Training for angkasawanship? The Soyuz way or the soya sauce way? 3.5gs, wow! The pax must really be planted onto the tarmac.
But do not be so, so , hard. I heard MAS 777 pilots seconded to Aseana years ago recorded something like 2.4gs in kimchiland years ago, so the airline with " icecream " man's uniform were happy to let go of the MAS jaguhs before they ploughed the runways too! Ouch...sakitnya!
But do not be so, so , hard. I heard MAS 777 pilots seconded to Aseana years ago recorded something like 2.4gs in kimchiland years ago, so the airline with " icecream " man's uniform were happy to let go of the MAS jaguhs before they ploughed the runways too! Ouch...sakitnya!
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Free Coaster Ride!
AIRASIA is named AIRLINE OF THE YEAR!
I hope AK isn't playing "can we bang this 320 harder than the 733"
What next? "Can we try a high speed 180 on a single reverse on a wet runway on the 320 coz we couldn't do it on the 733"? 
Nice to see AK trying to outdo their fellow red devil QZ's hard landings... are they expecting to win with the 320? 
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Raj,
Aseana did voice their displeasure at the MAS 777 guys who planted their brand new shining tins into the runways at more than 2gs, but those guys were not let go. They only had a slap on the wrist and were back as instructors! Amazing, isn't it? These were the young uns who became instructors when the seniors upped and left ( they were bypassed for the 744 ). They had only operated in the docile routes in MAS operating theatre; so when exposed to the harsh conditions in kimchiland, they exposed their inadequacies....BUT ah, life in MAS is so comfy, smooth sailing, so forgiving. So that's why the oldies whine and bitch incessantly, but they will not leave!
Aseana did voice their displeasure at the MAS 777 guys who planted their brand new shining tins into the runways at more than 2gs, but those guys were not let go. They only had a slap on the wrist and were back as instructors! Amazing, isn't it? These were the young uns who became instructors when the seniors upped and left ( they were bypassed for the 744 ). They had only operated in the docile routes in MAS operating theatre; so when exposed to the harsh conditions in kimchiland, they exposed their inadequacies....BUT ah, life in MAS is so comfy, smooth sailing, so forgiving. So that's why the oldies whine and bitch incessantly, but they will not leave!
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Nice photo Lesen,
And here they were saying no 73's except flying gas tanks !@@#$%^&
So much for the all 320's KLIA line.
Wooblah.
P.S. Does flying gas tank refer to ariel refuelling.
And here they were saying no 73's except flying gas tanks !@@#$%^&
So much for the all 320's KLIA line.Wooblah.
P.S. Does flying gas tank refer to ariel refuelling.
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But I really think we cant blame the AK pilots for sub standard operation and incidents of the years.
firstly.
-they are paid like BUS DRIVERS
-treated like BUS DRIVERS
-they are trained like BUS DRIVERS
so the end product is a BUSDRIVER!
the only award i can think of for TONY N CO is....
MALAYSIAS' BUS COMPANY OF THE YEAR 2007
firstly.
-they are paid like BUS DRIVERS
-treated like BUS DRIVERS
-they are trained like BUS DRIVERS
so the end product is a BUSDRIVER!
the only award i can think of for TONY N CO is....
MALAYSIAS' BUS COMPANY OF THE YEAR 2007
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Yeah, I was wondering the same until I saw the time the two pictures were taken .. 30 minutes apart from take-off to landing at the same airport thus suggesting it turned back?
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MH 777 aces thrashed OZ planes?
Hi Raj & Chintan,
Heard this some years ago; at that time I thought it was just a tembak rumour by some envious blokes who did not get their fingers in the pie. Looks like there was really more to it! Anybody else have any more info on this? We probably can learn something here before deciding to venture into kimchiland.
Heard this some years ago; at that time I thought it was just a tembak rumour by some envious blokes who did not get their fingers in the pie. Looks like there was really more to it! Anybody else have any more info on this? We probably can learn something here before deciding to venture into kimchiland.
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aaaaah so this is the picture that has got malaysian pilots talking eh?
so lesen terbang... you mean you just so happen to be there...at that time...and it just so happened that you had an excellent "aircraft spotter" camera (nice photo quality by the way) and u just so happened to take them excellent pictures at that time?? i gotta hire u as a psychic.
does this make any sense to anyone else? and you just so happened to get the exact timings? typical of you guys to just believe any picture you see. for all you know it could have just been a normal routine flight that took off and landed as per schedule.
like i said...no 737's operating out of KUL. that could have been a flight from KK to KL and it could have done a turn around and just took off and u just switch positions. come on lah. u just type out the timings and expect us to buy it? if the timings are printed on the photo then we have a case. so at the moment you got nada...
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so lesen terbang... you mean you just so happen to be there...at that time...and it just so happened that you had an excellent "aircraft spotter" camera (nice photo quality by the way) and u just so happened to take them excellent pictures at that time??
i gotta hire u as a psychic.does this make any sense to anyone else? and you just so happened to get the exact timings? typical of you guys to just believe any picture you see. for all you know it could have just been a normal routine flight that took off and landed as per schedule.
like i said...no 737's operating out of KUL. that could have been a flight from KK to KL and it could have done a turn around and just took off and u just switch positions. come on lah. u just type out the timings and expect us to buy it? if the timings are printed on the photo then we have a case.
so at the moment you got nada...420
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My oh my, I've gone for a few days rest and look at all the misleading posts that has surfaced.
Newbie, it's amazing how many times you've typed my name in one single thread. I feel so honored you think of me so highly. Somehow you would like to direct these incidents for me to answer and impress your internet daddy but you should probably try to firstly understand that incidents happen in all airlines everywhere so I don't have go to any specifics. A look at the other threads in these forums would prove that incidents/accidents happen to both low cost and also full service airlines. But surely everyone sets out flying everyday working towards making it a safe one. We all have families that love us.
For the case in point I would like to thank Raj Merlion for revealing that hard landings did occur with MH pilots in control some time back. But unlike the newbie I do not seek to generalize. We do not know the prevailing conditions when an incident occurs to a fellow professional pilot. We just learn from them as much as we can if it did occur so we can avoid it ourselves.
Now for those Aseana landings those were senior TRIs mind you (if it was true). What do you expect from a junior S/O in line training after being rushed through basic training when MAS cadets get the priority to graduate? It was an isolated case and a tricky one especially if newbie, you understand the workings of a FBW aircraft. Maybe in (I hope) a decade when you're in control of a FBW aircraft you'll understand about FBW and how dodgy it is to take over at the very last minute.
I reiterate again AK KUL operations are all A320s currently. The B737s still come in daily from KCH, JHB, BKI, CGK and BKK hubs. Being so long in the industry you should be able grasp a thing or two about logistics shouldn't you Woobly? Why would I lie about something that is open for everyone to see? If you have so much trouble believing me maybe you should look in the mirror and tell yourself 100 times "I have a hard time believing Chrome because I bull**** other people all the time". That would be a good start to improve your indifference attitude.
I don't need to comment further about those pictures as we all know AK B737s do land in KUL daily but they came from the hubs. Whatever.
Newbie, it's amazing how many times you've typed my name in one single thread. I feel so honored you think of me so highly. Somehow you would like to direct these incidents for me to answer and impress your internet daddy but you should probably try to firstly understand that incidents happen in all airlines everywhere so I don't have go to any specifics. A look at the other threads in these forums would prove that incidents/accidents happen to both low cost and also full service airlines. But surely everyone sets out flying everyday working towards making it a safe one. We all have families that love us.
For the case in point I would like to thank Raj Merlion for revealing that hard landings did occur with MH pilots in control some time back. But unlike the newbie I do not seek to generalize. We do not know the prevailing conditions when an incident occurs to a fellow professional pilot. We just learn from them as much as we can if it did occur so we can avoid it ourselves.
Now for those Aseana landings those were senior TRIs mind you (if it was true). What do you expect from a junior S/O in line training after being rushed through basic training when MAS cadets get the priority to graduate? It was an isolated case and a tricky one especially if newbie, you understand the workings of a FBW aircraft. Maybe in (I hope) a decade when you're in control of a FBW aircraft you'll understand about FBW and how dodgy it is to take over at the very last minute.
So much for the all 320's KLIA line
I don't need to comment further about those pictures as we all know AK B737s do land in KUL daily but they came from the hubs. Whatever.
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latest info. 9m-AAY..(you know the one u "took" a picture off with your powerful SLR camera) is an aircraft based in kuching.
anyway... like chrome says...accidents can happen anywhere at anytime given the conditions and of course perhaps lady luck. so why discriminate so terribly when ak does it? as you can see,the great MAS also have their errs,but hey,we learn and move on. thats where the term "experience" comes into play. so even if this decomp did happen,which im totally unaware off,the fact of the matter is we landed safely and passengers and crew were saved. end of story. pointing fingers doesnt get you anywhere.
neither does random pictures with artificial timing
anyway... like chrome says...accidents can happen anywhere at anytime given the conditions and of course perhaps lady luck. so why discriminate so terribly when ak does it? as you can see,the great MAS also have their errs,but hey,we learn and move on. thats where the term "experience" comes into play. so even if this decomp did happen,which im totally unaware off,the fact of the matter is we landed safely and passengers and crew were saved. end of story. pointing fingers doesnt get you anywhere.
neither does random pictures with artificial timing
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Raj has opened up a real can of worms...we gotta be fair to the AK boys; the MAS 777 " aces " did plough OZ brand new tins onto the tarmac. Ramlah Ram being one of those heroes I believe....ram on, sigh...not too good for MH reputation then but Richard did good to smoothen things then.