Vietnam Airlines (info please)

[Flyboy_SG]

And how long to widebody after left seat 321?

[Bus Junkie]

$60,000 USD

[ni si ni no]

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And how long to widebody after left seat 321?

Some of the guys been there more than 15 years and it didn't happen. Expect to retire in the aircraft you join.
The brokers will tell you otherwise of course

[ia1166]

Originally Posted by ni si ni no

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And how long to widebody after left seat 321?

Some of the guys been there more than 15 years and it didn't happen. Expect to retire in the aircraft you join.
The brokers will tell you otherwise of course

Not true. Some of the long timers are not prepared to part with their cash! Its the principle.

[ia1166]

Originally Posted by ia1166

Not true. Some of the long timers are not prepared to part with their cash! Its the principle.

Actually you are incorrect on both points.

All the pilots who have been here 15 years are on the 330 or triple. With the possible exception of 1 a320

All have fleet changed in one way or another.

All the long term 321 skippers have been offered a fleet change if they want.

[ni si ni no]

Ok I´ll change my words then, all of the Capt that have been here for more than 9 years still are in the same type!

We indeed have been offered a fleet change, sure! But did it happen?

[ia1166]

Maybe you need a bit of patience. The 350/787 hasnt been here long. The locals have had all the first slots. There has also been a lot of negotiating with the contract companies about the fees.

If its like the 330 then you will be interviwed. You will not automaticaaly get a fleet change amd it wont happen tomorrow.

To be honest if you are that angry you may be dissapointed. There are plenty of 321 guys who passed and pid for the 330. I expect it will happen to those who pass and pay for the 350. But if you have a questionable reputation it wont help you at all.

[ia1166]

So just to confirm. Your comment of 15 years and still on type, has now become 9 years and been offered but no date yet.

Quite a large disparity between those 2 statements.

Maybe check the attitude a bit. It will be noticed at work.

[ni si ni no]

nah! don´t worry bout me! Attitude´s fine

[ia1166]

I am sure it is. Something to consider is that until they have replacement skippers on the 321, they wont be fleet changing anybody any time soon. More captains joining the 321 fleet, more fleet crossovers. Simple math. Its not an upgrade by the way, its a fleet change.

So making disparaging remarks and putting new skippers off from joining wont be helping your aspirations at all.

Its shooting yourself in the foot so to speak.

You should maybe think about the bigger picture.

Or if you dont like it here....

[EagleA25]

Pay your way up?

Hey everyone,
So just to get this right, in VNA you might get a shot at 350/787 BUT you'll pay your upgrade, correct? Or is a bond the only thing you'll have to comply with?

[ia1166]

Its constantly changing but the principle is you have a bond held for 3 years, you pay for training and you are not paid until you start line training.

It can add up. There are usually enough volunteers so its up to you if you are offered. The deal is offered. Take it or leave it. The next guy down on the seniority will take your spot.

It is what it is. Its the contract world. If you want free type ratings you need to stay away from contract work.

[talk2jamesbond]

Hello Everyone, I just got offered B787 NTR FO Position, I would like to get info about Assessment, If someone know about details about Assessment (Interview ? SIM ?)
Please kindly send me PM,
I really appreciated, Thank you very much for your help friends

[PILOTHEAD]

Talk2

Are they still requiring a 30,000usd cash bond out your pocket if hired?

[talk2jamesbond]

Just in case I would like to try after contract they said refund... PILOTHEAD would you have any info about assessment ?? If you know, Pls send me PM Thank you very much.

[Flyboy_SG]

Yes pilot head

[PILOTHEAD]

I have no idea about the assessment, and have talked to one of the brokers who told me 30 grand. That's coming in as a current NG captain with over 5000 pic with only ntr first officer positions available in the 78. I can come back later when they come up with something worth my time.

[safelife]

Vietnam contracts offer mostly 6 weeks on, 2 off, and pay less than 3 on, 3 off in China.
Hanoi air pollution levels are on par with many Chinese cities.
Leaving the shorter training phase as the maybe only reason to choose Vietnam over China.

[kimono1950]

It is official, VNA does not upgrade expats W-B F/Os for a PIC position on the A-321 anymore. They prefer upgrading,low time vietnameses,who are able to keep the gear down for 1H, after taking off .

My advice for the people who is looking for VNA, stay clear of this so called national carrier .

[safelife]

Leaving the gear down for an hour? Why would one do that. Limits the cruise altitude as well