Air Miss in Kota Kinabalu
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Latest I heard the MasWings took off the wrong rwy. Suppose rwy 20 but they t/o rwy 02. Nearly collide with AK on approach rwy 20. No outcome from DCA. All cleared like nothing happened.
Still can't believe the tower guys let them takeoff on rwy 02.
Although I guess if the towers controller thought they were backtracking down the rwy for departure on 20 but suddenly they looked up and the aircraft was getting airborne on 02 it could have slipped through.
I can now see how it may happen in BKI.
BKI Tower controllers better be careful watching the aircraft to make sure it's backtracking and not taking off in future
Just lucky it didn't end in tears this time.
Although I guess if the towers controller thought they were backtracking down the rwy for departure on 20 but suddenly they looked up and the aircraft was getting airborne on 02 it could have slipped through.
I can now see how it may happen in BKI.
BKI Tower controllers better be careful watching the aircraft to make sure it's backtracking and not taking off in future
Just lucky it didn't end in tears this time.
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DCA ATS Division conducted an investigation immediately. Controller was relieved from operational position and re-rostered to non-operational position. This is a non-punitive action to protect both the controller and the organisation. Investigation was completed on 10 Oct and showed that ATC did not contribute to the aircraft mistakenly taking off from Rwy 02. Controller was re-instated for operational duty on 10th. Controller reminded the flight crew to "expedite line up Rwy 20" when the aircraft was abeam Twy F. When the aircraft was seen rotating, controller took corrective action and the landing aircraft was recleared to the west of the field.
I understand the airline also ran a parallel investigation.
Your allegation that DCA said nothing happened, unwilling to accept any wrongdoing and not willing to conduct an investigation because of Raya is totally way off target. Still "simply tembak".
Selamat Hari Raya
I understand the airline also ran a parallel investigation.
Your allegation that DCA said nothing happened, unwilling to accept any wrongdoing and not willing to conduct an investigation because of Raya is totally way off target. Still "simply tembak".
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Mas Guy, I think you are way of base here and you should accept the fact that you are just shooting in all directions.
llchew, can you confirm that it was an air asia flight and a fax flight involved. I believe it was the last day of operation of tony fernandes's FAILED fax airline.
llchew, can you confirm that it was an air asia flight and a fax flight involved. I believe it was the last day of operation of tony fernandes's FAILED fax airline.
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Hey I got lots of friend. It happened on 2nd Oct, MasWings and AK ler. That is correct. You dont just tembak. Maswings started on 1st Oct.
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MasGuy,
From your posts I think you are a airasia guy!! I don't think you have many friends just acquaintances. MAS is a far more professional outfit than aa. And your attempts at discrediting MAS pilots based on innuendo and heresay is baseless. So far the only voice blaming MAS for this alleged incident is yours and that voice sounds to me like an empty vessel. As in a previous post when you crassly attempted to make a joke of the late Alvins death you were told on the forum to improve your english and get lost. I rest my case.
Wooblah.
From your posts I think you are a airasia guy!! I don't think you have many friends just acquaintances. MAS is a far more professional outfit than aa. And your attempts at discrediting MAS pilots based on innuendo and heresay is baseless. So far the only voice blaming MAS for this alleged incident is yours and that voice sounds to me like an empty vessel. As in a previous post when you crassly attempted to make a joke of the late Alvins death you were told on the forum to improve your english and get lost. I rest my case.
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Now guys, please cool off. llchew has given the facts of the initial investigation; let's wait for more. MAS Guy is probably a young un and fairly loose with his " tembak, tembak ". Possibly a bit uncouth and crass in his ways. However thanks to him, this has come out in the open and hopefully some of us can learn from the incident. This is far better than letting it be swept under the carpet and everyone non the wiser. Merry Raya. Eid Mubarak!
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Hah, I see why they changed the runway numbers here in Perth (from 20-02 to 21-03)! Never knew pilots would actually get confused.. 
Note: Not saying that's what happened, but you never know!
Note: Not saying that's what happened, but you never know!
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Hah, I see why they changed the runway numbers here in Perth (from 20-02 to 21-03)! Never knew pilots would actually get confused..
The runway number number change is to do with the change in magnetic variation not coz pilots get confused (Plonker)
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Well, Pudong airport has two parallel runways, magnetic headings of 167 deg and 347 deg. One is 16-34, the other is 17-35. Maybe in this case, they are named differently to avoid confusion.
Not too sure about Perth though. Magnetic headings change constantly.
Haven't heard of this confusion at Changi (02-20)...
Not too sure about Perth though. Magnetic headings change constantly.
Haven't heard of this confusion at Changi (02-20)...
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In Perth, Runway 03(21) has magnetic bearing of 016 (confirmed when you line up), therefore should have been named Runway 02. I heard it was renamed to avoid confusion. I believe it's called being dyslexic. 
ps. I have passed all my ATPL's, thankyou very much.
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