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Old 4th Dec 2012, 06:54
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MH653 Hijacking

35 Years!! Still feels like yesterday.............

Still miss you Dad........ xx
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MH653 hijack on MT2day

This thread made it to MT2day. Hopefully RPK with his inside sources in Bukit Aman and Special Branch will be able to shed more light

As for treacletopping, belated condolences. Best wishes and Godspeed in your endeavours to uncover the truth.
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Belated wishes and respect to all bereaved families on this 35th anniversary. Hoping that someday soon, some revelations will surface to bring closure foryou.
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A sad 35 years had passed without closure. It is heartening to see there are people who still hold a candle to the memories of the victims of this tragedy.

A generation has passed; hopefully those in the know will soon see it fit to come forward with the truth.
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Babu's daughter featured on New Zealand Herald

A filial daughter's lament about MAS and its misadventures :

Phil Taylor Phil Taylor is a Weekend Herald and New Zealand Herald senior staff writer.


Hijacked airman's family still suffering 37 years after crash

4:15 AM Tuesday Apr 15, 2014

The daughter of the pilot killed in what, until Flight 370, was Malaysia's deadliest aviation crash talks to Phil Taylor about living with the disaster.


Devika Ganjoor Erickson says she will never get over not knowing why her father was shot, leading to his plane crashing. Photo / Brett Phibbs
Devika Ganjoor Erickson holds the small framed photograph of a handsome man with a crafted beard. Her father, she says, was known for his beard. It is the only picture she has of him in her Beachlands house. Before the birth of her son, Marc, nine months ago, she didn't even have this one.

The constant reminder of what happened to him, and what happened to her, her brother, Vivek, and mother, Sunita, afterwards was too painful. But with the arrival of a new generation, her mother insisted she have it.


One of the engines from the Malaysia Airlines Flight 653 shown in Malaysia in 1977. Photo / AP

The families of those on board missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 have been waiting for answers for 37 days. The loved ones of those who perished on Malaysia Airlines flight 653 have been waiting 37 years.


Erickson, who emigrated to Auckland 12 years ago, her mother Sunita and brother Vivek, who live in India, are among the latter.

Flight 653 was hijacked in 1977 on its way from the northern Malaysian city of Penang to the country's capital, Kuala Lumpur. The Boeing 737-200 crashed into a mangrove swamp killing all 100 on board. It was the deadliest incident in Malaysian aviation history until Flight 370 vanished on March 8 en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing with 239 people on board.

Questions remain despite the cockpit voice recordings capturing everything from the breach of the flight deck to the sound of the gunshots that killed the co-pilot and the pilot, Erickson's father Captain G. K. Ganjoor.

"I really feel for them," Erickson said of the families desperate that the search in the southern Indian Ocean will provide answers to the fate of Flight 370. The families of the victims of Flight 653 have had to learn to live without answers. "Thirty-seven years on we still don't really know the truth. It is still known as 'the mystery crash'."

Recovery of the black box enabled investigators to confirm both pilots were shot while flying the plane.

"But the mystery remains as to what exactly happened and why," Erickson said. "The headlines at the time just said 'foreign terrorists'. No one knows who, or why."

Some details of the cockpit recorder were made public. "Either my father or the co-pilot was pleading, 'please don't shoot', and then shots rang out."

The hijacker or hijackers of MH653 have never been identified. The aircraft was hijacked as it approached Kuala Lumpur on the evening of December 4, 1977, according to the Malaysian Civil Aviation Department's report.

Soon after the plane began its descent, Captain Ganjoor radioed the control tower: "We have an emergency on board". Asked to clarify, he said, "We have a hijacker on board."

Amid confusion over whether it was to land there, it proceeded towards neighbouring Singapore. As it descended, the crew was shot and the aircraft "carried out some unusual pitch up and pitch down terminal manoeuvres before finally impacting into swampy ground at some 450 knots". Such was the velocity, no identifiable bodies were found.

The report concluded that the crash was caused by the crew being fatally incapacitated, leaving the aircraft "professionally uncontrolled".

Erickson: "He was murdered while on duty and we just don't know why."

The families with loved ones on board Flight 370 were unlikely to get the answers they want.

"People keep talking about closure but in a case like this, even if by some miracle, God-willing, they find the wreckage or whatever has happened to that flight, there will never be closure because you always have that sense of loss, that grief, that missing person from your life.

"And every year that anniversary, that 8th of March, that 4th of December, will be a constant reminder as long as you live. So, where's the closure? There is no closure."

Her father's death left her mother a widow at 30 with children aged 5 and 18 months and a dramatically changed life. It occurred the day after their wedding anniversary and the day after Ganjoor completed 21 years of flying.

Erickson, who was 5, has memory "flashes": with her dad at a Disney On Ice show, a fatherly cuddle, her mother at home inconsolable while surrounded by people. She's been told that she repeatedly asked where her father was.

He was a voracious reader, a keen cook, who loved squash, tennis and horseriding, an amateur actor and poet and a university boxer.

"We lost out on those rich experiences, as well as missing a father figure.

"It was incredibly hard for my mother."

Ganjoor previously flew for Indian Airlines and the family had moved from Lucknow, in India's northeast, to Kuala Lumpur four years earlier for her father's job and were isolated from family.

Erickson feels the airline should have done more to help her mother. She said that two days after the crash, while in shock and without legal advice or family support, her mother signed a document at the request of the airline that waived her legal rights. "She was shell-shocked. She would have signed anything."

The airline gave about a year's salary as full and final compensation from which a fifth was deducted in death duties. The remainder was divided with Ganjoor's wife and two children from a previous marriage.

The family's privileged lifestyle - they had two maids - changed overnight.

"Mum was a housewife, a very spoilt housewife, and suddenly to go from that to literally wondering how she would feed her kids, was very hard. It was a hand-to-mouth existence."

After pleading with the airline for a job, her mother was given a low-paid clerical role and told she could never be promoted to a higher-paying job because she was not a Malaysian citizen. Her mother did that job until retiring at 55 and returning to India where she lives in a small apartment.

Her mother's requests to the airline for help to pay for costly English language schooling in Malaysia were declined, said Erickson, because her father was an expatriate. Consequently she and her brother were sent to India for schooling.

Her mother lost the free travel benefit that came as a pilot's spouse and though her job made her eligible for flight concessions there was never money for family holidays. A trip to McDonald's was a treat, Erickson said. "I felt we were being punished for something that wasn't our fault."

"The airline just didn't have any heart to deal with it properly. It has not been done right by my Mum. She should not have gone through what she's gone through; for a young widow to be struggling so much."

Erickson last year flew to India on Malaysia Airlines to visit her mother.

"I found it a bit strange to pay full fare on an airline that my father died for while on duty."

A recent request for the airline to help her with flights was declined, she said.

The airline did not respond in time for this article to the Herald's request for comment.

"I feel very strongly about it," Erickson said. "It's not too late to right what was done wrong."

Hijacking mystery

• Flight 653 was hijacked in 1977 on its way from the northern Malaysian city of Penang to the country's capital, Kuala Lumpur.

• The Boeing 737-200 crashed into a mangrove swamp killing all 100 on board. It was the deadliest incident in Malaysian aviation history until Flight 370 vanished.

• Recovery of the black box enabled investigators to confirm both pilots were shot while flying the plane.

• The aircraft was hijacked as it approached Kuala Lumpur on the evening of December 4, 1977.

• As it descended, the crew was shot and the aircraft crashed into swampy ground at 450 knots. Such was the velocity, no identifiable bodies were found.

• The hijacker or hijackers of MH653 have never been identified.

- NZ Herald
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Devil

Thanks Sireh...great to know Babu's family is doing fine.

Pariah bhai is paying for sins with robbery episode in downtown KL, heart problems etc. More unsavoury visitors to his rotten soul in the offing. Karma can be a biatch!
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Wasn't guchi bhai wanting to help sunita? Funny how friends disappeared when the going got tough. I am sure Babu had many " friends" since he was always the live of the party.

Anyway great that everything turned out well for the family. Blessings always.
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I can personally vouch for it that they have really done well for themselves and the daughter has turned out to be phenomenal person and an absolutely charming and loveable person.

I do hope MAS realize their value when they need to talk to the families once this ordeal comes to its natural conclusion.....
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Picture of Babu's daughter...


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A very filial and loving daughter! Babu is certainly proud.
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Originally Posted by Hassan Bok
Hi guys,

Now that the Jet Airways Recruitment in Malaysia has been closed, I would like to start this one to commemorate the tragic events leading to this incident and the equally sad events that followed.
Wooblah, Sireh, MAStake, MASsenger and others who do remember the incident kindy contribute ...this is the 30th anniversary. The posts in the Jet Airways Recruitment in Malaysia thread did bring out info concerning this event which was hushed up. That post WAS NOT HIJACKED; CommanderRiker did get some good contacts which should be useful to him and I hope he keeps us posted on his exploratory trip to India. MORE IMPORTANTLY he was PRE-WARNED about the hazards of dealing with the shady, sly but highly questionable bloke who tried to dupe Jet Airways wannabees with his promise of personal contacts and fast tracking.

So guys, keep it coming.
Today's the 38th anniversary of this tragic flight.

Best wishes and warmest regards to Babu's families! We remember him well and cherish the great memories!

Goodwill too, to that piece of work called latuk guru...hope he find his just deserts! Hey scallywag, kebara baje!

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My Heart Hurts whenever I speak to Mun. Her post today reminded me once again

"Remembering you today papa...where have 37 years gone? Still wish we had a few more years with you in our younger lives to experience together your passion for reading, acting in plays, cooking up a storm for family and friends (and the infamous large parties!), playing squash, tennis, swimming, horse-riding, and from what what I keep hearing - an all-in-all a warm, genuine and very generous human being. This year I have outlived your life on earth - you truly were taken away way much before you time. Love you and I'm sure your invisible angel wings are always wrapped around us, while we live out our days on this earth."

Compounded this week as another friend disclosed the loss of her brother in a mishap that has shattered a family.

Indian American Marine Maj. Taj Sareen dies in plane crash in England - The American Bazaar

May they fly in peace!
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God Bless you Babu,

A truly genuine human being. I remember the black label parties. The curries and the beetle nut you used to chew. That huge smile and happy laugh. I remember you freaking out Dr Kee as you slowed your heartbeat during medicals. WTF I never knew where or how you learned to do that.

I do know that on that day you would have done everything possible to save your passengers and crew. A true Captain and great pilot you were and a super mentor to boot.

Rest in peace my friend and my heartfelt condolences to Mun and Mum.

Wooblah.
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Dear Sunita and Dev,

My deepest condolences and I do hope that one day we will all find out what really happened and who murdered your father and his crew and passengers. From the long silence over the years it seems the Malaysian Government is covering up for someone or something that is a huge embarrassment for them.

Strangely I knew your father quite well as he was a great friend of my uncle Tom Pincock of whom I am sure your mother will remember. At that time I was living in Australia and on a visit to Malaysia in 1976 I was staying at my uncles house in PJ. Many a party was held there and i remember your father as the life of the party joking and doing card tricks. He took me to MAS hangar 1 and let me sit in the left seat of the B732 cockpit. Everybody knew and respected him in that hangar. It was a fantastic experience for a 14 year old boy that wanted to be a pilot and Babu made a larger than life impression on me.

May he rest in peace and continue to be your angel watching over the ones he loved so much.

Warmest regards,

Pete Talalla.
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Dear Sunita and Dev,

My deepest condolences and I do hope that one day we will all find out what really happened and who murdered your father and his crew and passengers. From the long silence over the years it seems the Malaysian Government is covering up for someone or something that is a huge embarrassment for them.

Strangely I knew your father quite well as he was a great friend of my uncle Tom Pincock of whom I am sure your mother will remember. At that time I was living in Australia and on a visit to Malaysia in 1976 I was staying at my uncles house in PJ. Many a party was held there and i remember your father as the life of the party joking and doing card tricks. He took me to MAS hangar 1 and let me sit in the left seat of the B732 cockpit. Everybody knew and respected him in that hangar. It was a fantastic experience for a 14 year old boy that wanted to be a pilot and Babu made a larger than life impression on me.

May he rest in peace and continue to be your angel watching over the ones he loved so much.

Warmest regards,

Pete Talalla.
Good on you, Mr Talalla. You must be of that prominent Talalla family who featured amongst those in the corridors of power during Tunku's time.

No, not forgetting that one famous Talalla who saw action during WW2 and Normandy at that!

Kudos, and all the very best!

Yes, for pariah bhai, just deserts awaiting!
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Today's the 38th anniversary of this tragic flight.

Best wishes and warmest regards to Babu's families! We remember him well and cherish the great memories!

Goodwill too, to that piece of work called latuk guru...hope he find his just deserts! Hey scallywag, kebara baje!

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You mean that piece of work known as g. singh or gstring during his short time in KAL.




Someone else almost got blamed when he did not report an engine prang durin his landing at NRT.


Heard he went to fly for Air Asia, the cesspit of rejects?
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Today's the 38th anniversary of this tragic flight.

Best wishes and warmest regards to Babu's families! We remember him well and cherish the great memories!

Goodwill too, to that piece of work called latuk guru...hope he find his just deserts! Hey scallywag, kebara baje!

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You mean that piece of work known as g. singh or gstring during his short time in KAL.




Someone else almost got blamed when he did not report an engine prang durin his landing at NRT.


Heard he went to fly for Air Asia, the cesspit of rejects?
Glen, that's the one, a real piece of work.

Heard he was dumped by KAL and he went to AAX but is no longer there!
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Unhappy SAD MEMORIES INDEED

I just saw this thread and it brings sad memories for me.

I was one of the last controllers to speak with the aircraft on that fateful night after departure from Penang. As the Butterworth Approach controller I took the transfer from Penang tower and then handed it to Lumpur Control abeam Ipoh. As it was the last aircraft for the night I closed watch and headed home.

With distress next day I read the morning papers with the terrible news.

Sad memories indeed and I join with others in offering condolences to the families. I am now able to put a name and some background to a familiar voice from my first working period in Malaysia.

MJG
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Unhappy SAD MEMORIES INDEED
I just saw this thread and it brings sad memories for me.

I was one of the last controllers to speak with the aircraft on that fateful night after departure from Penang. As the Butterworth Approach controller I took the transfer from Penang tower and then handed it to Lumpur Control abeam Ipoh. As it was the last aircraft for the night I closed watch and headed home.

With distress next day I read the morning papers with the terrible news.

Sad memories indeed and I join with others in offering condolences to the families. I am now able to put a name and some background to a familiar voice from my first working period in Malaysia.

MJG/QUOTE]


Welcome to this thread. Thank you very much for your contribution here.

It is already 38 years. I am glad that every now and then, we have veterans who have connections to this tragic flight come out and enlighten us about their roles somewhere in that tragic flight.

If only the investigators involved as well as those really in the know would be more forth coming. Most of them should be on the final legs of their earthly journey; they should make peace with themselves and come out with the real truth and give everyone closure.
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39 years ago. RIP to those who left this world in that flight.
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