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Hijacked MAS flight MH 653 on 4th December 1977

Old 12th Sep 2007, 16:08
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I agree. When we take "extreme" stances and give people "extreme" labels, we are none the better.
Point to ponder for all of us, myself included.

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Old 13th Sep 2007, 00:18
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Aha...political correctness at play, gentlemen? Bunga's previous posts elsewhere and the " tone "...sarcastic at best. The wise ones can see through that!
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Old 13th Sep 2007, 10:39
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I've read the DCA official report regarding this accident a few years ago. It contains the scary CVR transcript. The pilots were shot at point blank and bleed to death while still pleading....

Anyway the report is still available at the NUS central library.
Title: Aircraft accident report 1/78 : Boeing 737 9M-MBD report 1/78, accident near Gelang Patah, Negeri Johor on 4th Dec, 1977 / Chief Inspector of Accidents, Civil Aviation Department, Malaysia.
Imprint Kuala Lumpur : Government Printing Dept., 1978.
Call #: TL553.5 Aic

http://linc.nus.edu.sg:2084/search/c...5+aic&1%2C1%2C
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Old 18th Sep 2007, 01:09
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As for the Tanjung Kupang tragedy, I am sure MAPA members can get the EXCO to do something meaningful. It is inconceivable that they can waste money lauding a ****ty latukship for pariah gstringh but no contribution for a commemoration. Do the right things, guys!
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Old 24th Sep 2007, 01:36
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Do the right thing?

Hi, do you sincerely expect the bunch of self centred, miserly and overrated clowns running MAS and MAPA to do the right thing? They will conspire and connive to screw you blokes whenever they can to bring you guys back to " coolie " working conditions; but to do the right thing? Get real!
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Old 25th Sep 2007, 12:24
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Looks like most MAS pilots like to consign this as " nasib lah "...won't happen to me kind of apathetic attitude. Pretty sad, and they wonder why things are so screwed up!
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Old 25th Sep 2007, 14:06
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MAPA is actually Malaysia Plantation Acc.

That is why the act like farmers. EH! actually worse than farmers. Mapa is almost like Nato = No Action, Talk Only.

No one have balls to actually talk to the management. Only Kipas2
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Old 26th Sep 2007, 00:08
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Farmers waiting for handouts from the " gomen " ? Ya, a bit like that...ex gratias may just be it!!
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Old 3rd Oct 2007, 23:58
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I was with MAS in the 90's and I do remember the SEP procedures in hijack situations. As I understand it they applied only to Malaysian registered aircrafts. It would really be nice if the M'sian government and MAS come up with some meaningful commemoration for this tragic event.
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Old 9th Oct 2007, 00:41
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I had a glimpse of a post indicating that such procedures no longer apply after 911 by someone from SEL...I wonder why that post was removed. It mentioned of similar procedures promulgated in Korean Air. The post looked innocent enough, I don't see why the poster would retract it or the moderators saw it fit to bin it. Strange!
 
Old 14th Oct 2007, 10:24
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Might have been deemed unwise to post safety & security procedures in an open forum.
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Old 23rd Oct 2007, 15:46
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Jandakotcruiser, welcome back to SEA. Yea, the SEP classes in the 80's & 90's were interesting. I hope most of the old manuals and handouts remain in the archives; will venture to the training school to dig it out from the " keepers " there.
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Old 28th Oct 2007, 01:07
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Any commemoration for this tragedy?

Any MAS insiders have any clue if there is any meaningful commemoration of this tragedy to remember out previous fallen colleagues?
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Old 29th Oct 2007, 14:49
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There should be a commemoration for this tragedy

I was in Corporate Aviation in this region when the tragedy happened. A bad time for Malaysian Aviation & the Malaysian Country.

It is hoped that the Relevant Authorities pay tribute to the people who lost their lives in this tragedy on the appropriate date.
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Old 4th Nov 2007, 21:02
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One month to anniversary...any more useful and nice to know info from contemporaries of the crew of the tragic flight?
Anyone initiating a collection to take out an " in memoriam " in the papers?
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Old 13th Nov 2007, 06:01
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Wait and see. Heard from someone that nstp will run a commemoration page or two.
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Old 19th Nov 2007, 19:52
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Wira is right on the money; it's the " nasib lah '' attitude leading to apathy and malaise. There were many good SEP procedures which came about after this tragedy; however they need to be revised and tailored to meet current needs in the wake of 911. As someone mentioned earlier, most of the contemporaries of the crew of the tragic flight have left MAS or retired and so there aren't many around to keep the lessons learnt current.
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Old 1st Dec 2007, 08:19
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My take on this; well there will be some passing mention in the major papers. Any meaningful commemoration? Maybe a respectful visit to Kebun Teh by the Transport Minister, MAS officials and colleagues of the fallen crew.
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Old 5th Dec 2007, 00:41
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Trolling thru the web pages of tanahair papers but no sign of any meaningful mention, let alone commemoration of this tragic flight. Out of sight, out of mind?
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Old 9th Dec 2007, 22:32
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Saw some post in another forum about something organised to commemorate this incident; anybody with info or news on this?
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