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Hijacked MAS flight MH 653 on 4th December 1977

Old 10th Aug 2007, 19:28
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MAS Oldtimers, most of us only heard of it fleetingly. In the SEP classes nowadays, there isn't much on this incident. Looks like there will be some very uncomfortable questions arising due to this thread. Like Brian, I did have some experience of the one you referred to as a kondeyless snake...he really badmouthed the cina to the melayus and vice versa. Wonder what he condemned about Geragaus! Why do you old timers still hang around such specimen?
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Old 10th Aug 2007, 20:07
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Great for you newbies and middlebies. This tragedy brought out the best in most people and the worst in some people. Like taufoo mentioned, religious differences were cast aside and all the right people were in place to minister to the departed. A shining gesture by the government in a nation in grieve. The sad part was that it was an isolated spark in a sea of gloom. About that nasty shameless one, well I ask myself the same thing; why do sane, rightminded peiple want to associate with such a pariah? Pack and herd mentality? Maybe, correction, probably!
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Old 14th Aug 2007, 22:35
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I wonder if the company has any plans to commemorate this tragic event. In conjunction with Malaysia's 50th birthday, it would be great to remember our fallen colleagues in a nice way.
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Taufu, I don't think anything big is on the cards. Probably a small commemoration and a little bit of a curved ball rehash of the incident in the papers. It would be great if MAPA can take out an ad in the local papers for in memoriam notice for the fallen crew. Maybe we all can chip in a little dough for it.
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Old 15th Aug 2007, 01:19
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I had a glimpse of a post by a certain Rock that some special anti hijack procedures came about after this sad tragedy. Somehow that post disappeared. Was there such sensitive info that caused that post to be removed? Much can be learnt from this acident even though it was 30 years ago.
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Old 24th Aug 2007, 21:49
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During my time in MH, there were certain procedures taught during SEP classes on dealing with hijack situations. These all came about after the Tanjong Kupang tragedy. I am not sure if they are airline specific.....I don't see other carriers using them; at least the last 2 that I have flown with.

The impact forces of this tragedy must have been similar to the Silk Air one some years ago...
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Old 26th Aug 2007, 04:49
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MAS Never Learns From Mistakes

MAS is giant snowball rolling downhill towards the drain. Nothing will stop this roller. The momentum is just too great. Guyz get ready to swim as AA will makan this MAS in a few years.
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Old 27th Aug 2007, 19:14
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Great suggestion Paishinel. MAPA should take out an ad notice in memoriam for the fallen ones. I am happy to chip in. Better still, someone get zurai to get his handlers to foot the bill! Mapa had wasted my past contribution taking out congratulatory messages for the pariah kondehless creep when he licked arse for latukship...SO JUST DON'T SQUANDER this golden chance to get it right! Cheers.
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Old 27th Aug 2007, 20:38
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Ali...during your stint in MAS the SEP dept was mainly staffed by contemporaries of the crew on the tragic flight. As such much passion and work was involved in promulgating those said procedures. Now most have either retired or left for greener pastures. It's been 30 years and after the camel's putsh, most things aren't the same anymore. As far as I know only the M'sian DCA and the local SB/UTK were conversant with the procedures; so applicable only in Malaysian jurisdiction. Outside of Malaysia, nobody knows or cares about those procedures.
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Old 27th Aug 2007, 21:29
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Thumbs up

Paishinel & chintan, count me in if you guys are going ahead with any in memoriam notices.
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Old 28th Aug 2007, 15:53
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Danger

If you guys are really interested in the aforementioned procedures I am pretty sure you can find it in the F-27 SEP orange manual. Not sure if it was in the 732 SEP manual.

Tango on,

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Old 29th Aug 2007, 23:03
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Wooblah, I don't think the newbies and middlebies ( as someone called them ) have seen or even been aware of those manuals. The SEP dept. might still retain some of those manuals but I am not too hopeful that they are still available for research.
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Old 2nd Sep 2007, 12:32
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Malaysia's 50th birthday bash has come and gone but nothing from the company about commemorating this tragic flight. Well out of sight out of mind; those with fond memories might want to do so your own way.
 
Old 3rd Sep 2007, 08:59
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Sigh, probably trek over to Kebun Teh myself to pay my respects my friends on 04Dec; no point waiting for any of the present mob running the show to initiate anything. Anybody care to join in?
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Old 4th Sep 2007, 19:16
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Sireh, it's an old story. Just do your honourable part quietly and be happy.
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Old 8th Sep 2007, 09:23
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Well we have 3 months to go, so there is still time for the management and gomen to do something. I am sure NST and the Star will have some feature article rehashing the very tired official line. So sit, wait and see.
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Old 9th Sep 2007, 04:44
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Bunga...that's pretty callous and typical of talibanised melayus. So pergi " main jauh jauh " and be happy in your sorry little world. MAS and the fallen crew definitely deserve better.
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Old 10th Sep 2007, 00:17
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Awakened & enlightened Malaysians

Sireh, Wira and like minded Malays, Syabas...welcome to the world of enlightened true Malysians. I salute you guys. As for bunga, Wira couldn't have said better. " Pergi main jauh, jauh " indeed.
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Old 12th Sep 2007, 12:13
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Wira & bakut...well said! There is certainly a glimmer of hope yet.
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Old 12th Sep 2007, 13:38
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Bunga didn't sound that harsh, did he?
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