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Wooby,mat tongkol and what not, you guys have burnt your bridges ,so best stay on your side off the fence and just enjoy your kimchee instead of condeming those still in mas.What good does it bring you cause you are never ever going to be taken back .Whatever rotten things going on in mas is of no cosequence to you.Remember you have abandoned mas and those remaining to stay back are happy that you found a very caring and rewarding airline to work for.Dont have to rub more salt into our wounds .But if you happen to be someone who just can help but badmouth ,target your own airline cos it might just improve your lot. Just Leave mas to mas insiders ,CAPITO ....
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Ok Camelbird,
I agree to disagree, fair option as we can all have our opinions.
sayacayasamalu,
Kimchee land I think not, you take too much for granted. How do you know I won't be doing your next base check.
Wooblah.
I agree to disagree, fair option as we can all have our opinions.
sayacayasamalu,
Kimchee land I think not, you take too much for granted. How do you know I won't be doing your next base check.
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To Wooblah,
Roger to that and happy landings.
To Sayacayasamamu,
You have a point in what you said but this is PPrune so if you don't like it you can just log off. I can say what I want and you the same. Like Capt Wooblah, I respect his opinion and he mine, no problem there. But just because some of us are in kimchi land or wherever, that does not disqualify us from giving our opinion on any airline we like.
What more the airline that we were in for more years then your total flying hours.
Roger to that and happy landings.
To Sayacayasamamu,
You have a point in what you said but this is PPrune so if you don't like it you can just log off. I can say what I want and you the same. Like Capt Wooblah, I respect his opinion and he mine, no problem there. But just because some of us are in kimchi land or wherever, that does not disqualify us from giving our opinion on any airline we like.
What more the airline that we were in for more years then your total flying hours.
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Hi kamarul, even though sayacayasamalu is real arsey it would be fair that he be allowed to air is views. However I wonder how he come to the assumption that posters on this thread are from kimchiland. As an expert phisherman as someone alluded to, maybe you can sniff out something!
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wooby
You just made a threat to fix someone in his base check just for having opposing views.You preach the moral high ground to debate issues and not carry extra baggage into the fltdeck.You have only manage to exposed your true colors and lump yourself into the same basket as some poor soul you have classified as a kondehless lowlife.
You just made a threat to fix someone in his base check just for having opposing views.You preach the moral high ground to debate issues and not carry extra baggage into the fltdeck.You have only manage to exposed your true colors and lump yourself into the same basket as some poor soul you have classified as a kondehless lowlife.
malu sama lu
Being an occasional PPRuNer, but nevertheless a seasoned observer, I must say that I agree more with Wooby's and Camelbird's different views, whereas this sayasamasayamalu guy is defensive and would stick his head in the sand rather than try to understand history and accept constructive criticism of the airline and the existing destructive culture which persists.
Quote "a purblind oligarchy that flatly refused to see that history was condemning it to the tong sampah". Sayasamasayamalumalu is a typical example.
Also, I believe Capt Wooby merely reminded you that your assumptions may not be correct and that he may still be in MAS, and not only that, he may also be your instructor/check/training or line. I do not see any threat being made by his statement. The only threats are in the insecure mind of yours.
Quote "How do you know I won't be doing your next base check."
Open up your mind and have the courage to accept criticism and effect a change.
Quote "a purblind oligarchy that flatly refused to see that history was condemning it to the tong sampah". Sayasamasayamalumalu is a typical example.
Also, I believe Capt Wooby merely reminded you that your assumptions may not be correct and that he may still be in MAS, and not only that, he may also be your instructor/check/training or line. I do not see any threat being made by his statement. The only threats are in the insecure mind of yours.
Quote "How do you know I won't be doing your next base check."
Open up your mind and have the courage to accept criticism and effect a change.
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oisteri too am a reluctant poster.I find your critism of sayaca.....a bit skewed.He onlly responded to a highhanded response from capt wooblah which is a very direct and clear statement .However you have chosen to twist and turn an paint CAPT W as a saint and sayaca..... as the mentally insecure agressor.I find sayaca... a breath of fresh air amid all the stale condemnation floating amongst the active participantsof this forum who are desperately trying to silence him.GO ON, SAYA BETUL 2 CAYA SAMA LOO....
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me thinks oyster's got it right; the apologists for the miscreants in MAS are fighting back. Wooby's certainly a not a saint but has some posts enlightening the younger set about the malaise plaguing MAS and Malaysian aviation theatre. Remember there are a lot of low lifes who profitted greatly through the misdeeds of the patrons and are now coming out of hiding to defend the past/present patrons. Over the last 10 to 15 years I have seen and sense enough!
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Oyster has got it right,
It is the insecure twats here that have twisted my words. Yes it is true I am no saint and yes I have made many mistakes in my career. But I believe I have learned from all of them and that has made me a better pilot and person.
In all the years I have been in training I have yet to fail anybody. Infact I believe that a good trainer can teach a monkey to fly. Merely because he is patient and recognises the students weaknesses and concentrates on repeating such exercises until confidance is restored. And believe me I have turned a few monkeys into pilots in my career.
Wooblah.
It is the insecure twats here that have twisted my words. Yes it is true I am no saint and yes I have made many mistakes in my career. But I believe I have learned from all of them and that has made me a better pilot and person.
In all the years I have been in training I have yet to fail anybody. Infact I believe that a good trainer can teach a monkey to fly. Merely because he is patient and recognises the students weaknesses and concentrates on repeating such exercises until confidance is restored. And believe me I have turned a few monkeys into pilots in my career.
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Ex MAS posting from kimchiland?
I don't think any of those blokes in SEL are interested in posting here. They have moved on and I am sure they reckon most who remain are so attached to our mothership that we cannot be weaned off. Met one on transit in KUL; the feeling I get is that most are plainly oblivious to the going ons in MAS.
Kimchiland only?
Good luck in your phishing trip, hope you'll catch a few...
It is very sad to see the slow destruction of pay and conditions @MAS particularly, airlines all over in general, compounded by the meteoric rise of AA, but conversely opportunities are sprouting up elsewhere.
EK has been the talk of the town for many years and the are still growing. The recent announcement by EK is testimony to their commitment to be bigger, better, stronger if not the best. They certainly have the $$$$$ssss. With oil set to go above and beyond the USD$100 mark, reserves in UAE running out in 20-30yrs, they have no choice but to strike when the iron is hot.
LARGEST EVER CIVIL AIRCRAFT ORDER
EMIRATES MAKES AVIATION HISTORY – AGAIN
· Orders 120 A350s, 11 A380s, 12 Boeing 777-300ERs
· Total order value worth over US$34.9 billion
· Largest-ever aircraft order in civil aviation
· Will be world’s largest operator of the A380s and Boeing 777s
DUBAI, U.A.E., 11th November 2007 – Emirates Airline today announced another historic civil aviation aircraft order, when it signed contracts for a 120 Airbus A350s, 11 A380s, and 12 Boeing 777-300ERs, worth an estimated US$34.9 billion in list prices.
HH Sheikh Ahmed bin Saeed Al-Maktoum, Emirates’ Chairman and Chief Executive, announced the massive order at the 10th Dubai Airshow; and signed the contracts with Tom Enders, Airbus President and CEO, and Lee Monson, Vice President Middle East and Africa Sales, Boeing Commercial Airplanes.
The agreement with Airbus comprises firm orders for 50 A350-900s and 20 A350-1000s, plus 50 options for the A350-900s. The first A350 will be delivered to Emirates in 2014.
Emirates also firmed up orders on the eight A380s for which it had signed letters of intent earlier this year, and placed firm orders for an additional three of the double-decker aircraft, bringing its total firm order for the A380s to 58.
The contract with Boeing is for 12 firm orders of the 777-300ERs, valued at US$3.2 billion. With this new order, Emirates now has 57 Boeing 777s pending delivery and is set to become the world’s largest 777 operator in the next few years.
Sheikh Ahmed also inked agreements today with Sir John Rose, Chief Executive of Rolls Royce for the Trent XWB engines to power Emirates’ new A350s; with Bruce Hughes, President of the Engine Alliance for the GP7200 to power its additional A380s; and with Scott Donnelly, President and CEO of GE Aviation for GE90 engines to power Emirates’ 777-300ERs.
In total, Emirates’ firm aircraft and engine orders announced today are worth US$23.4 billion – a value that increases to US$34.9 billion if the 50 options are included. This is the largest-ever aircraft commitment in civil aviation made by any airline in a single order.
Sheikh Ahmed said: “Emirates is committing close to US$35 billion today for new aircraft. Our total order includes 93 aircraft on firm order and 50 on option. Once again, Emirates is making aviation history.”
Emirates’ total order book now stands at 246 aircraft, all wide body, and worth over $60 billion US dollars. This is a massive investment which reflects our confidence in the future of air transport, and our confidence in Dubai.”
He added: “In 2003, our plan was for Emirates to have 100 aircraft by 2010. We have already surpassed that target. Growth and demand has exceeded the most optimistic projections. Dubai is investing billions to secure its future as a leading centre for business, tourism, and air transport on the global stage. Likewise, Emirates is investing in a fleet for the future, in order to support Dubai’s development, as well as the growth of air travel demand around the world.”
The new aircraft we have ordered today are all of the latest technology – they are greener and more efficient to operate. At the same time, they will allow Emirates to continue setting the gold standard in service. We intend to invest millions of dollars more to develop cutting-edge in-flight products to match our cutting-edge aircraft fleet.
Cathay Pacific places order for 17 more new aircraft
8 November 2007
Cathay Pacific Airways today announced its biggest-ever direct-purchase commitment for new aircraft, placing firm orders for 10 Boeing 747-8 Freighters and a further seven Boeing 777-300ER passenger aircraft directly from the Boeing Company. The airline has also taken up purchase rights for another 14 of the new freighter type
http://www.cathaypacific.com/cpa/en_...0010d21c39____
Cathay can get ALL 30 x 777-300er delivered by 2012...
OPPORTUNITIES ABOUND
What started in MAS when TR ( Sell Com ) took over was very unfortunate and it has exposed the knowledge gap and weaknesses within MAPA and MAS pilots group as a whole. The smart ones are very smart indeed but also very selfish. In general, people are kiasu and will always look after themselves and their families first. No martyrs here and one is not likely to come along. In this case, Nikki, Pygmy and gang have done what comes naturally. I am not saying that it is right, but it is what they have done. Others that will eventually take along will probably do the same. It's the culture. No Captain Walker to take you to Tomorrow morrow land..You have to venture out and make your own luck and jump on the opportunities that are available.
Camel arrogantly said in one his memos, ".if you are not happy, there is one down south and a few up north". Since then many XMAS have done the country proud by proving their worth on the world stage. Not just "jagoo campung" but "All England" too.
Some misinformed, ignorant malaise see this as not playing the Patriot Game but this way of thinking is backwards, obtuse and and sheltered.
So where have all these people gone to ? I know there are more than a few in Kichi kichi mamma land, the not so fragrant harbour, the sterile duty free shop, up and down under, Bollywood,the Dunes and possibly at the circus where the birds feed.
So my point is, the flip side of what's happening is not that bad. It's not the best scenario one would hope for our proud national airline but when you think about the bigger picture, it ain't that bad dudes. Congratulations to our boys and girls for being World’s Best Cabin Staff in the World Airline Survey conducted by airline auditor Skytrax and Leading JC in Asia!!!
One has to be bold and courageous to take on small mental challenges being away from the beloved homeland. Human kind from every race have done it the past quite successfully and it is not a new thing.
We see it all the time in the places we visit and stay. Just look at your own back yard and see what you see. I think it is quite amazing how the oran puti have successfully left their small, tiny, mighty island to conquer the world. They are still "brothers", have special diplomatic and military relationship that goes beyond "No Action Talk Only" group, and help each other out some 300 years out. Some have built the own towns marked by gates with pretty little lions and dragons that have become a tourist attraction of their own. You can find hole in the wall take aways even in the remotest part of South America, Europe, Africa and Austrasia..amazing!! Curries and chutnies have become the number dish at the round table. Fish and Chips is great but Chicken Curry and Chips....yummm.
However, the are too few Austronesian Malaysian that can be seen around the world/ in airlines around the world. As said by Ngapsayot, can't be weaned off mummy maybe, don't know and not sure why. Anyone? anyone? Bueller? I have a theory but I'll wait.
What is patriotism anyway? Some say that these smart and obviously capable XMEN are unpatriotic and traitors to their fellow countrymen. I say that's B.S. and only small minds think that way. Example of another one is Mr Jackal himself. He is so emotionally constrained growing up that he changed the context of the argument to suit his Mr Hyde. In his own words...
I wonder who really is projecting themselves as skewed, twisted and aggressive here? Again, Bueller?? and I'm painting Capt W as a saint? Really? Any comments anyone? Capt W? or Buller?? In you minds eyes maybe, because you are the projection of your words.
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I do not find "H2SO4" a breath of fresh air...yuck...sick!!
If you do, then good luck to you. Hang on a minute, I just did one.Ahh... that's better. I'm sorry you're not here to take a deep breath because boy, you missed out BIG time!! on the "fresh air" I just produced from eggs I had for brekky. Now where's that lavender spray??
Sorry, say what? We are desperately doing that? Whoaa, this a forum, no one can do that except for Sotong. Pull yer head in young man, woman. How do you know I won't be doing your next base check
or how do you know I won't appear in your scariest dreams...how do you know....Oh just shut up!! 
Ohioooo Krazy Glue, Gila Monster.
Anyway season greetings to all. Slamat Eid-Ul- Fitri, Thaipusam and Dewali just passed and XMAS, HEXMAS and happy New Year to everyone. Another day, another year had passed. Where has the time gone?? Kids grow up all too quickly....Oh, just shut up!!!!
How do we solve a problem like MAS ria?? Don't know. How can we solve our own,,, now maybe there's a clue.
OK, let me put on my flak jacket and shuck that Oyster.
Malaysia Zero Zero Wun, over to Rostov Kontrol..Goot Luck!!
.It is very sad to see the slow destruction of pay and conditions @MAS particularly, airlines all over in general, compounded by the meteoric rise of AA, but conversely opportunities are sprouting up elsewhere.
EK has been the talk of the town for many years and the are still growing. The recent announcement by EK is testimony to their commitment to be bigger, better, stronger if not the best. They certainly have the $$$$$ssss. With oil set to go above and beyond the USD$100 mark, reserves in UAE running out in 20-30yrs, they have no choice but to strike when the iron is hot.
LARGEST EVER CIVIL AIRCRAFT ORDER
EMIRATES MAKES AVIATION HISTORY – AGAIN
· Orders 120 A350s, 11 A380s, 12 Boeing 777-300ERs
· Total order value worth over US$34.9 billion
· Largest-ever aircraft order in civil aviation
· Will be world’s largest operator of the A380s and Boeing 777s
DUBAI, U.A.E., 11th November 2007 – Emirates Airline today announced another historic civil aviation aircraft order, when it signed contracts for a 120 Airbus A350s, 11 A380s, and 12 Boeing 777-300ERs, worth an estimated US$34.9 billion in list prices.
HH Sheikh Ahmed bin Saeed Al-Maktoum, Emirates’ Chairman and Chief Executive, announced the massive order at the 10th Dubai Airshow; and signed the contracts with Tom Enders, Airbus President and CEO, and Lee Monson, Vice President Middle East and Africa Sales, Boeing Commercial Airplanes.
The agreement with Airbus comprises firm orders for 50 A350-900s and 20 A350-1000s, plus 50 options for the A350-900s. The first A350 will be delivered to Emirates in 2014.
Emirates also firmed up orders on the eight A380s for which it had signed letters of intent earlier this year, and placed firm orders for an additional three of the double-decker aircraft, bringing its total firm order for the A380s to 58.
The contract with Boeing is for 12 firm orders of the 777-300ERs, valued at US$3.2 billion. With this new order, Emirates now has 57 Boeing 777s pending delivery and is set to become the world’s largest 777 operator in the next few years.
Sheikh Ahmed also inked agreements today with Sir John Rose, Chief Executive of Rolls Royce for the Trent XWB engines to power Emirates’ new A350s; with Bruce Hughes, President of the Engine Alliance for the GP7200 to power its additional A380s; and with Scott Donnelly, President and CEO of GE Aviation for GE90 engines to power Emirates’ 777-300ERs.
In total, Emirates’ firm aircraft and engine orders announced today are worth US$23.4 billion – a value that increases to US$34.9 billion if the 50 options are included. This is the largest-ever aircraft commitment in civil aviation made by any airline in a single order.
Sheikh Ahmed said: “Emirates is committing close to US$35 billion today for new aircraft. Our total order includes 93 aircraft on firm order and 50 on option. Once again, Emirates is making aviation history.”
Emirates’ total order book now stands at 246 aircraft, all wide body, and worth over $60 billion US dollars. This is a massive investment which reflects our confidence in the future of air transport, and our confidence in Dubai.”
He added: “In 2003, our plan was for Emirates to have 100 aircraft by 2010. We have already surpassed that target. Growth and demand has exceeded the most optimistic projections. Dubai is investing billions to secure its future as a leading centre for business, tourism, and air transport on the global stage. Likewise, Emirates is investing in a fleet for the future, in order to support Dubai’s development, as well as the growth of air travel demand around the world.”
The new aircraft we have ordered today are all of the latest technology – they are greener and more efficient to operate. At the same time, they will allow Emirates to continue setting the gold standard in service. We intend to invest millions of dollars more to develop cutting-edge in-flight products to match our cutting-edge aircraft fleet.
Cathay Pacific places order for 17 more new aircraft
8 November 2007
Cathay Pacific Airways today announced its biggest-ever direct-purchase commitment for new aircraft, placing firm orders for 10 Boeing 747-8 Freighters and a further seven Boeing 777-300ER passenger aircraft directly from the Boeing Company. The airline has also taken up purchase rights for another 14 of the new freighter type
http://www.cathaypacific.com/cpa/en_...0010d21c39____
Cathay can get ALL 30 x 777-300er delivered by 2012...
OPPORTUNITIES ABOUND
What started in MAS when TR ( Sell Com ) took over was very unfortunate and it has exposed the knowledge gap and weaknesses within MAPA and MAS pilots group as a whole. The smart ones are very smart indeed but also very selfish. In general, people are kiasu and will always look after themselves and their families first. No martyrs here and one is not likely to come along. In this case, Nikki, Pygmy and gang have done what comes naturally. I am not saying that it is right, but it is what they have done. Others that will eventually take along will probably do the same. It's the culture. No Captain Walker to take you to Tomorrow morrow land..You have to venture out and make your own luck and jump on the opportunities that are available.
Camel arrogantly said in one his memos, ".if you are not happy, there is one down south and a few up north". Since then many XMAS have done the country proud by proving their worth on the world stage. Not just "jagoo campung" but "All England" too.
Some misinformed, ignorant malaise see this as not playing the Patriot Game but this way of thinking is backwards, obtuse and and sheltered.So where have all these people gone to ? I know there are more than a few in Kichi kichi mamma land, the not so fragrant harbour, the sterile duty free shop, up and down under, Bollywood,the Dunes and possibly at the circus where the birds feed.
So my point is, the flip side of what's happening is not that bad. It's not the best scenario one would hope for our proud national airline but when you think about the bigger picture, it ain't that bad dudes. Congratulations to our boys and girls for being World’s Best Cabin Staff in the World Airline Survey conducted by airline auditor Skytrax and Leading JC in Asia!!!
One has to be bold and courageous to take on small mental challenges being away from the beloved homeland. Human kind from every race have done it the past quite successfully and it is not a new thing.
We see it all the time in the places we visit and stay. Just look at your own back yard and see what you see. I think it is quite amazing how the oran puti have successfully left their small, tiny, mighty island to conquer the world. They are still "brothers", have special diplomatic and military relationship that goes beyond "No Action Talk Only" group, and help each other out some 300 years out. Some have built the own towns marked by gates with pretty little lions and dragons that have become a tourist attraction of their own. You can find hole in the wall take aways even in the remotest part of South America, Europe, Africa and Austrasia..amazing!! Curries and chutnies have become the number dish at the round table. Fish and Chips is great but Chicken Curry and Chips....yummm.
However, the are too few Austronesian Malaysian that can be seen around the world/ in airlines around the world. As said by Ngapsayot, can't be weaned off mummy maybe, don't know and not sure why. Anyone? anyone? Bueller? I have a theory but I'll wait.
What is patriotism anyway? Some say that these smart and obviously capable XMEN are unpatriotic and traitors to their fellow countrymen. I say that's B.S. and only small minds think that way. Example of another one is Mr Jackal himself. He is so emotionally constrained growing up that he changed the context of the argument to suit his Mr Hyde. In his own words...
...sayaca.....a bit skewed. However you have chosen to twist and turn an paint CAPT W as a saint and sayaca..... as the mentally insecure agressor
I find sayaca... a breath of fresh air
I do not find "H2SO4" a breath of fresh air...yuck...sick!! If you do, then good luck to you. Hang on a minute, I just did one.Ahh... that's better. I'm sorry you're not here to take a deep breath because boy, you missed out BIG time!! on the "fresh air" I just produced from eggs I had for brekky. Now where's that lavender spray??
desperately trying to silence him
or how do you know I won't appear in your scariest dreams...how do you know....Oh just shut up!! Ohioooo Krazy Glue, Gila Monster.Anyway season greetings to all. Slamat Eid-Ul- Fitri, Thaipusam and Dewali just passed and XMAS, HEXMAS and happy New Year to everyone. Another day, another year had passed. Where has the time gone?? Kids grow up all too quickly....Oh, just shut up!!!!
How do we solve a problem like MAS ria?? Don't know. How can we solve our own,,, now maybe there's a clue.
OK, let me put on my flak jacket and shuck that Oyster.
Malaysia Zero Zero Wun, over to Rostov Kontrol..Goot Luck!!
More Opportunities people!!
Fresh from my inbox, more good news for all qualified personnel!!!!
Come on you guys. Stop the grumbling and vote with your feet. By leaving for greener pastures,browner sands or whatever, you'll give your families better education etc, albeit different life and probably a pay rise for others who prefer to stay. It'll be a win/win situation for everyone. What are you waiting for?? Up the quals, tidy up your logbooks and get ready. Luck is when preps meet opportunity. Make your own.
Qantas to buy up to 188 aircraft
Qantas has handed down its biggest ever aircraft order, buying up to 188 narrow body aircraft for short haul flights in a move that will almost double its fleet.
The airline said the funding of the purchases won't affect its investment grade credit rating.
The new aircraft will be used to defend Qantas' minimum 65 per cent share of the Australian domestic market and to expand low cost services to South East Asia.
The plan also involves Jetstar opening new regional aviation bases in both Darwin and Perth over the next two years to serve fast growing Asian markets.
Most of the new aircraft will be Boeing 737-800s, and Airbus A320s.
The order also includes larger A321 aircraft, which will have up to 213 seats, compared with 177 on an A320 in a Jetstar single-class configuration.
The first aircraft to arrive in February will be an A321.
"We expect to take at least 17 of those aircraft to expand Jetstar's opportunities in its fastest growing markets," chief executive Geoff Dixon said.
Qantas will acquire 68 A320/A321 aircraft and has 40 options and purchase rights.
It will also buy 31 B737-800 aircraft, and has 49 options and purchase rights.
"The firm aircraft will be delivered over a six year period, while options secured additional delivery slots through to 2017," Qantas said.
Mr Dixon said: "This decision, together with existing A380 and B787 fleet commitments, secures an order stream for next generation aircraft that will allow the group to meet long term demand growth and replace older aircraft over the next decade.
"The plan provides maximum flexibility to respond to changes in the market and competitive situation.
"In an environment where our customers have more options than ever before, this investment will ensure that Qantas and Jetstar continue to provide customers with superior network reach, choice and product."
He said some of the Airbus aircraft would also be used to supply capacity to the group's Asian associates.
Qantas is preparing to receive its first superjumbo A380 aircraft in August 2008.
Jetstar will later launch the B787 Dreamliner to underpin the expansion of its low cost international services.
"We are confident that the orders we have placed provide the right aircraft, with the right product and right economics to ensure the continued success of Qantas and Jetstar both domestically and internationally," Mr Dixon said.
AAP
Qatar Airways Fleet
Qatar Airways flies one of the youngest fleets in the skies. Our fleet expansion is ongoing with a signed deal of $1.2 billion for two Airbus A380 "super jumbos" that will be delivered in 2009. We plan to more than double our fleet size to 110 aircraft by 2015. As part of our commitment to innovation and providing you with the very best, we have built a reputation of introducing new aircraft into our fleet and offer you the latest in-flight services.
In September 2006 Qatar Airways became the launch customer of the Airbus A340-600 High Gross Weight aircraft. Innovative onboard features such as dedicated First and Business Class lounges for passengers travelling in the premium cabins are specially designed for you to unwind and relax.
Qatar Airways will add 22 Boeing 777s to it's growing fleet starting November 2007 with deliveries extending out to mid-2010.
We have also become the first international airline in the world to introduce live digital satellite TV beamed direct to every passenger on their individual seatback TV systems at 35,000 feet
Etihad plans order of 'at least' 20-25 aircraft
Etihad Airways will issue an RFP next year for an aircraft order "of a good size," CEO James Hogan revealed to ATWOnline at the Arab Air Carriers Organization AGM in Damascus. The order will be for both short- and long-haul types and will be for "at least 20-25 aircraft," he said without revealing further details. "The order will cover in part the recycle needs of our current fleet and in part incremental requirements," he noted.
Hogan added that it is premature to conclude if Etihad will move toward an all-Airbus fleet. Its widebody fleet currently comprises 12 A330-200s, six A340s, five 777-300ERs and one 767-300. It just added its first three wet-leased A320s as part of a strategy to create regional connectivity through its Abu Dhabi hub feeding into its long-haul network. Three more A320s are expected by the end of the 2008 first quarter. In June it placed an order for four A340-600s, five A330 passenger aircraft and three A330 freighters.
Separately, Etihad announced it carried more than 3.3 million passengers during the first nine months of 2007 compared to 1.95 million for the same period in 2006, an increase of 70%. Load factor averaged 75% across its network of 44 destinations. It has launched eight new routes in 2007: Sydney, Brisbane, Kuala Lumpur, Singapore, Kochi, Thiruvananthapuram, Milan and Dublin. It will add its 45th destination on Oct. 28 with the launch of flights to Kathmand
See what I mean!!!!.
Everyday legacy airlines and LCCs expand rapidly. The real reason why airplanes fly is not the high/low pressure over the wing stuff or Newton's law of motion. It's $$$ and sense! Airline economics have changed and CEOs CFOs MDs GMs are getting greedier and smarter, whilst the travelling public, including yours and my families like cheap fares. Cheaper than ID90 and firms seats!! Back packers rule!!!! As they expand, the number of flight deck seats expand too. Shorter time pub crawling to "four bars".
Ryan Air and South West airlines have paved way for others to emulate. I understand their pilots are among the highest paid. So, life ain't too bad. Having said that, I'm sure some legacy carriers will still fly increased pool of premium business pax including others with high disposable income.
So, hello MAS, how is it? It's not all doom and gloom, quite sunny actually, jez have to go play outside.
Come on you guys. Stop the grumbling and vote with your feet. By leaving for greener pastures,browner sands or whatever, you'll give your families better education etc, albeit different life and probably a pay rise for others who prefer to stay. It'll be a win/win situation for everyone. What are you waiting for?? Up the quals, tidy up your logbooks and get ready. Luck is when preps meet opportunity. Make your own.
Qantas to buy up to 188 aircraft
Qantas has handed down its biggest ever aircraft order, buying up to 188 narrow body aircraft for short haul flights in a move that will almost double its fleet.
The airline said the funding of the purchases won't affect its investment grade credit rating.
The new aircraft will be used to defend Qantas' minimum 65 per cent share of the Australian domestic market and to expand low cost services to South East Asia.
The plan also involves Jetstar opening new regional aviation bases in both Darwin and Perth over the next two years to serve fast growing Asian markets.
Most of the new aircraft will be Boeing 737-800s, and Airbus A320s.
The order also includes larger A321 aircraft, which will have up to 213 seats, compared with 177 on an A320 in a Jetstar single-class configuration.
The first aircraft to arrive in February will be an A321.
"We expect to take at least 17 of those aircraft to expand Jetstar's opportunities in its fastest growing markets," chief executive Geoff Dixon said.
Qantas will acquire 68 A320/A321 aircraft and has 40 options and purchase rights.
It will also buy 31 B737-800 aircraft, and has 49 options and purchase rights.
"The firm aircraft will be delivered over a six year period, while options secured additional delivery slots through to 2017," Qantas said.
Mr Dixon said: "This decision, together with existing A380 and B787 fleet commitments, secures an order stream for next generation aircraft that will allow the group to meet long term demand growth and replace older aircraft over the next decade.
"The plan provides maximum flexibility to respond to changes in the market and competitive situation.
"In an environment where our customers have more options than ever before, this investment will ensure that Qantas and Jetstar continue to provide customers with superior network reach, choice and product."
He said some of the Airbus aircraft would also be used to supply capacity to the group's Asian associates.
Qantas is preparing to receive its first superjumbo A380 aircraft in August 2008.
Jetstar will later launch the B787 Dreamliner to underpin the expansion of its low cost international services.
"We are confident that the orders we have placed provide the right aircraft, with the right product and right economics to ensure the continued success of Qantas and Jetstar both domestically and internationally," Mr Dixon said.
AAP
Qatar Airways Fleet
Qatar Airways flies one of the youngest fleets in the skies. Our fleet expansion is ongoing with a signed deal of $1.2 billion for two Airbus A380 "super jumbos" that will be delivered in 2009. We plan to more than double our fleet size to 110 aircraft by 2015. As part of our commitment to innovation and providing you with the very best, we have built a reputation of introducing new aircraft into our fleet and offer you the latest in-flight services.
In September 2006 Qatar Airways became the launch customer of the Airbus A340-600 High Gross Weight aircraft. Innovative onboard features such as dedicated First and Business Class lounges for passengers travelling in the premium cabins are specially designed for you to unwind and relax.
Qatar Airways will add 22 Boeing 777s to it's growing fleet starting November 2007 with deliveries extending out to mid-2010.
We have also become the first international airline in the world to introduce live digital satellite TV beamed direct to every passenger on their individual seatback TV systems at 35,000 feet
Etihad plans order of 'at least' 20-25 aircraft
Etihad Airways will issue an RFP next year for an aircraft order "of a good size," CEO James Hogan revealed to ATWOnline at the Arab Air Carriers Organization AGM in Damascus. The order will be for both short- and long-haul types and will be for "at least 20-25 aircraft," he said without revealing further details. "The order will cover in part the recycle needs of our current fleet and in part incremental requirements," he noted.
Hogan added that it is premature to conclude if Etihad will move toward an all-Airbus fleet. Its widebody fleet currently comprises 12 A330-200s, six A340s, five 777-300ERs and one 767-300. It just added its first three wet-leased A320s as part of a strategy to create regional connectivity through its Abu Dhabi hub feeding into its long-haul network. Three more A320s are expected by the end of the 2008 first quarter. In June it placed an order for four A340-600s, five A330 passenger aircraft and three A330 freighters.
Separately, Etihad announced it carried more than 3.3 million passengers during the first nine months of 2007 compared to 1.95 million for the same period in 2006, an increase of 70%. Load factor averaged 75% across its network of 44 destinations. It has launched eight new routes in 2007: Sydney, Brisbane, Kuala Lumpur, Singapore, Kochi, Thiruvananthapuram, Milan and Dublin. It will add its 45th destination on Oct. 28 with the launch of flights to Kathmand
See what I mean!!!!.
Everyday legacy airlines and LCCs expand rapidly. The real reason why airplanes fly is not the high/low pressure over the wing stuff or Newton's law of motion. It's $$$ and sense! Airline economics have changed and CEOs CFOs MDs GMs are getting greedier and smarter, whilst the travelling public, including yours and my families like cheap fares. Cheaper than ID90 and firms seats!! Back packers rule!!!!
As they expand, the number of flight deck seats expand too. Shorter time pub crawling to "four bars".Ryan Air and South West airlines have paved way for others to emulate. I understand their pilots are among the highest paid. So, life ain't too bad. Having said that, I'm sure some legacy carriers will still fly increased pool of premium business pax including others with high disposable income.
So, hello MAS, how is it? It's not all doom and gloom, quite sunny actually, jez have to go play outside.
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OYSTER DEERIE ,You are barking up the wrong tree.If you think senior mas pilots will leave due to all kinds of injustices or bags of money hanging on trees overseas ,you are dead wrong.They find the mudslinging and bitching just too spicy and are addicted to it .They are happy to wallow in the swamp cos money just cant buy all this sheeet.If you preach to the low time juniores or those running from the allongs you stand a much better chance of getting them to migrate to such places.This oldies will just growl and do headstands but end of the day back to the safe hands of mommy dearest.In short they rather shack up with the devil they know than the angel that is a stranger...
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With all the major airlines deciding their future by placing orders for their airplanes, I have yet to hear MAS making any kind of decision on the A380, or B787 or even the replacement of the B737-400. Only ATR being named. With this kind of slow response in a fast moving AC buy/sell world, by the time they are ready to place the order, MAS will be so far behind the queue that they will miss the opportunity to make an impact on the market.....
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Quite true sireh, quite true. Life is MAS is easy, comfy and if you are OK with the top brass you can get away with lots of incidents. Remember, fellas who lopped off wing tips not only escape with nary a slap on the wrists but bypassed their seniors for the 744. How nice can that get to be? So to leave MAS would be silly!!! Except for property in exclusive areas and expensive non Proton cars, cost of living is relatively low and the salary in MAS goes a long way in spending power.