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Old 13th Jul 2008, 11:34
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It Appears the WWF Cancelled

It appears that the WWF in Clark has been cancelled

The "Turban Beckett" could not get a Visa as he could not fight on a tourist Visa

Hulk Hogan appears to have his Visa in order

However if the event pushes through the official hotel will be the Clarkton Hotel in Fields Avenue

Lets all hope this prestigious event goes ahead and the Turban can at least get a work visa for the Philippines
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Old 13th Jul 2008, 19:01
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?

hey everyone.
could you guys do me,and i guess a few others, a favour please.
please explain who is this beckett person... please give as much info as possible, cause frankly ive never heard of him, nor what hes suppose to do here at CA...
please help me and many of us understand ..
thanks again all
and
Happy Flying
to all
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Old 14th Jul 2008, 01:50
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hmmmmm

I think this is the dude

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Old 14th Jul 2008, 15:56
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If you wish to reach your new leader please contact him at

[email protected]
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Old 14th Jul 2008, 23:48
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maybe like this?



Guess that will be the future!

And the new school uniform:


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Old 15th Jul 2008, 10:52
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I am a little confused about this thread of late. Presumably a Seikh or a Cattery owner are joining the Clark Staff? Is their something wrong with either?
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Old 15th Jul 2008, 14:57
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seat belt signs - on

fasten your seatbelts guys - youre all being taken for a ride........



take your money out of there while you can and just buy your own cessna 152 . itll only cost 1-1.5 m php .when your done, just sell it. by that time youll have your cpl and will meet REGULAR f/o requirements
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Old 15th Jul 2008, 15:14
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just make sure the person selling you the airplane will not be taking you for a ride as well...

if it floats, f*cks or flies, do not buy.. just RENT!
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Old 17th Jul 2008, 11:33
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Taken For A Ride

we are all being taken for ride since MP got all the money......

the govt doesn't care either to start an investigation. to all of you out there who read these forums from abroad you can see that no 1 really cares about the filipino's who waste there money and get nothing thats promised>>>>>
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Old 17th Jul 2008, 11:50
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I hope this is not the case with all Filipino FTOs?
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Old 17th Jul 2008, 22:55
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Cherian Thomas CEO Clark Aviation

Ask Cherian Thomas who is involved in the Asian Institute of Management in Makati and the new CEO of Clark Aviation

He must be 100% genuine, he does not wear a Turban

"Alpha Aviation set up earlier in 2006 by UK venture capital firm C&C Alpha Group Limited, Alpha has established its first pilot training operations in Clark, nr Manila in the Philippines and plans to establish 10 pilot training schools across Europe, the Middle East and Asia.

Alpha is currently awaiting delivery of a new level D A320 full-flight simulator at the newly established school at Clark and a new level D 737 next generation full-flight simulator is scheduled for imminent delivery at Bond"

Growth Capital Sales in Bond - News Room - Aberdeen Asset Managers Private Equity
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Old 19th Jul 2008, 11:58
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Seeing Is Believing

Until Then Lets Just Wait And See. They Have Said That Before.
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Old 21st Jul 2008, 03:31
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now that there are ATR pilots in the line and more ATRs to come , a320 entry level is no more.
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Old 21st Jul 2008, 05:04
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yes, that is true but it is only for people with current ATO CPL with IR.

Not for Clark Av MPL cadets. Their program is for the A320 as per ICAO approval.

Changing the syllabus is another story. Maybe Cherian Thomas can do that for them......but for what reason???
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Old 21st Jul 2008, 05:41
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I personally think that regardless of your entry level (320 or 72) when upgrade time comes it all boils down to 'stick performance' in the sim evaluation. And by this comes with experience and level of competence. From entry level till 2.5 to 3 years is a lot of time to develop and gain proficiency. ANY initial type-rating does not outright mean that you are type specific 100% proficient. This simply implies that one is 'trainable' and 'can-well adapt' to type specific equipment. I am very hopeful that every 320 or 72 wannabe and/or newbie will do just fine down the line.
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Old 21st Jul 2008, 06:18
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Deratedthrust,

If you were on the left seat and you had a choice of flying with a 200 or even 250 hour CPL/IR/Multiengine rated guy typerated in the A320 or with 70 hour MPL cadet with all single engine time in his/her logbook typerated as well, whom with you rather fly with?

It all boils down to the level of experience. Why? Because no airline will risk the lives of the passengers....well atleast I hope 5J does not.
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think first

well 9 ball, your right about one thing.. it all comes down to experience..
im sure DeratedThrust will agree on me, and many who read this, that there are alot of CPL IR pilots with hundreds of hours, and still they have less experience than maby a MPL holder... From what ive seen, theres alot of inexperienced unqualified CPL IR holders... and yet they love nothing better than to show off there hundreds of hours... i guess everyone s getting the idea right....

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9ball,

New guys at the levels you mentioned are sent to the line and eventually released for their first revenue duties as F/Os with the same basic 'level' of credential; they are safe to operate the aircraft. Meaning, initial safety requirements met. Who determines this? The equipment chief pilot in their final checks.

As PIC, it is well within my personal capacity to 'assist' these very new and 'raw' first officers to get their hours going. Yes, a lot of Captains would frown on the thought that they have a greenhorn strapped on the right seat during an IMC approach into somewhere. In some occasions, I have felt that way. But that is what the job calls for, being PIC, as you know yourself. If the greenhorn is not improving as his hours grow, he is provided some form of remedial or even corrective training. Being part of flight operations entails having a lot of confidence in the Instructors, check pilots, admins, etc... to train and sign off these right seat hopefuls. The people responsible for pairing crews in flights does a fairly decent job of knowing who needs to fly where and who doesn't. Yes, I will accept either credential as is. And determine later (and recommend if necessary) if his or her performance justifies continuance of his revenue duties, or otherwise.

In 5J, there is check and balance.

good day to all!
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Old 21st Jul 2008, 12:07
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DeratedThrust,

New guys at the levels you mentioned are sent to the line and eventually released for their first revenue duties as F/Os with the same basic 'level' of credential
I would have to disagree with this. it's because these MPL cadets don't have multiengine experience, they don't haven't flown complex aircraft with constant speed prop and a retractable landing gear, they have no idea on how to land with a single engine ILS....do you get what Im driving at.....they the only reason they will be sent to the line is because they paid close to 4M pesos to train at good old Clark Aviation

I guess you haven't seen the training they do there....we won't even go as far as upgrading....IOE is a hurdle in itself.

But if you want to give it a shot be my guest. just make sure you don't have friends or family members as passengers behind you.
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Point well taken sir. Yes multi experience counts a lot. I know because I too came from that same old road. But just like everything that happens in aviation, you'll never know exactly whats coming until you see it. SOME people do have what it takes, you see it the moment they sit in the flight deck and see how thorough they can be. I've been flying for almost 17 years. Maybe not much to more senior guys, but I've had my share of experiences. I'm one of the believers of the old system. MPL is a mystery to me, but I'm not doubtful. I'm just being optimistic they (70+ hour Single time graduates) will do just fine down the line. If the chief pilot says these MPLers are 'okay' to sit on the right, then let the line Captains see how they do. These cadets at CA for the 320 are (attitude wise) on the right track. So, no matter how 'irregular' the situation is there at CA, just keep moving forward cadets! Show 'em what you've got!

You mentioned; "..we won't even go as far as upgrading....IOE is a hurdle in itself." Either way, my fellow airman, let's just give them the benefit of the doubt. Very Risky? Yes, I agree. But what isn't in aviation? If 5J realizes later on that these CA scholars can't really hack it, then so be it. That will be the boss' decision.

Cheers!
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