Asiana / Korean Air
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Just got an email. Heard about the series of comprehensive test inc medical, company, gov't and without career advancement or chance for upgrade, ETIHAD/QTR/EMIRATES/AIRLANKA/VIETNAM is still more attractive. WORD of advise: do NOTresign from your post til u pass all these tests.
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Is there any education subsidy with any of these 2 airlines? heard it cost around 1500usd per month for intl school in korea. In these case, commuting should be the most appropriate, for pilots will not be bringing their children in korea. if there is no education subsidy, is there commuting contract? commuting or education subsidy. either one should be applied. also heard that there is no upgrade frm 320 737 to widebody. stick to ur equipment til u retire. no career advancement. Knew all these coz friends of mine from asiana now in qatar. lots of them. in 2 yrs time they will be flying a330 or 777. good deal!
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KE doesn't offer Seoul based positions - it's all commuting. Living expenses in Seoul? Doesn't come into play as you commute except for time spent laying over at the Hyatt Incheon when in Seoul.
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G'day,
Just wondering if there is any SYD base KE 744 and 777 drivers that could answer those questions:
1-How many days work per month?
2-How many days off at the base per month in a block?
3-Do you bid for days off or trips?
4-Take home pay (salary+per diem)
5-average flight time/month
6-best fleet to be on? (routes, days off, lifestyle, crews....)
7-Best broker, broker to avoid dealing with, and why?
Thanks....cheers.
Just wondering if there is any SYD base KE 744 and 777 drivers that could answer those questions:
1-How many days work per month?
2-How many days off at the base per month in a block?
3-Do you bid for days off or trips?
4-Take home pay (salary+per diem)
5-average flight time/month
6-best fleet to be on? (routes, days off, lifestyle, crews....)
7-Best broker, broker to avoid dealing with, and why?
Thanks....cheers.
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LHR, FRA, CDG, FCO, MOW, OSL, VIE, CPH, HEL, BRU, MXP, LUX, DXB, TLV, BOM, DEL, BKK, SIN, KUL, HKG, MNL, CGK, DPS, PEK, PVG, GUM, SYD, AKL, NRT, HND, KIX, YYZ, ANC, SFO, LAX, DFW, IAH, ORD, ATL, IAD, JFK.
May have missed a few but you get the idea. Of course, some routes are seasonal.
May have missed a few but you get the idea. Of course, some routes are seasonal.
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Captain position with Korean air or Asiana
Does anyone have any hiring information with Korean airlines or Asiana Airlines for a Captain position? I know both carriers have foreign pilots working for them. What are the requirements for A320,B737,B777 or B747 Captain slot and how do you apply for the job. Do you have to go through an agency to apply? What is the pay? Any other info would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much.
Does anyone have any hiring information with Korean airlines or Asiana Airlines for a Captain position? I know both carriers have foreign pilots working for them. What are the requirements for A320,B737,B777 or B747 Captain slot and how do you apply for the job. Do you have to go through an agency to apply? What is the pay? Any other info would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much.
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Fraggle
Go into Pprune archives and type in a few titles, also the existing backpages of this forum.
The info you request has been flogged to death over the last 3-4 months, admittedly mainly Korean but also some Asiana.
have fun.
Go into Pprune archives and type in a few titles, also the existing backpages of this forum.
The info you request has been flogged to death over the last 3-4 months, admittedly mainly Korean but also some Asiana.
have fun.
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Fraggle
Go into Pprune archives and type in a few titles, also the existing backpages of this forum.
The info you request has been flogged to death over the last 3-4 months, admittedly mainly Korean but also some Asiana.
have fun.
Hello All,
Went to the archives, and didn't find any really pertinent or current info. Anyone have any info on KAL that's current? Which contract agencies are best, and offer the best packages? Are they really hiring Capt without type? I would appreciate any info from someone who is currently working there, or recently went through the process. Thanks.
F-Rock
Go into Pprune archives and type in a few titles, also the existing backpages of this forum.
The info you request has been flogged to death over the last 3-4 months, admittedly mainly Korean but also some Asiana.
have fun.
Hello All,
Went to the archives, and didn't find any really pertinent or current info. Anyone have any info on KAL that's current? Which contract agencies are best, and offer the best packages? Are they really hiring Capt without type? I would appreciate any info from someone who is currently working there, or recently went through the process. Thanks.
F-Rock
Not on the 744 but hope the following helps you a little..
Just wondering if there is any SYD base KE 744 and 777 drivers that could answer those questions:
1-How many days work per month?
You get 6 hard days + 3 soft days and you can take your 2 days leave per month. On the 744 & 777 I believe you get 3 commuting days per month. So in a 31 day month you will be away from home for 18 days. You will also get legal minimum days off between trips whilst at work.
2-How many days off at the base per month in a block?
See above, probably somewhere around about 5-6
3-Do you bid for days off or trips?
There is no bid system per se but that's not to say you can't ask the schedulers for a particular trip. They are also flexible with your days off so you can adjust your blocks of days off within reason.
4-Take home pay (salary+per diem)
Pay varies between fleets, the 744 are on USD$12K+, the 777 are on USD$10.7K+. The per diems will vary but are about USD$ 1000 per month. (These figures are from the gapaviation website)
[I]5-average flight time/month
The 747 & 777 are considered the long haul fleet and they work hard, and you frequently hear of guys going into overtime. You will also find yourself going east one trip and then west on your next trip, then east again....
6-best fleet to be on? (routes, days off, lifestyle, crews....)
Not on either so very subjective. B747 pays more is the bigger fleet has more expats on it, has a mix of cargo and pax. The B777 is probably the aircraft for the longer term future, is more modern, but pays less, and goes to (marginally) fewer destinations.
7-Best broker, broker to avoid dealing with, and why?
I think the general consensus is that CCL are the best brokers. But it is horses for courses so do your homework.
Fragglerock
Hope the above also answers your questions.
Re, hiring non-type rated DECs. I haven't seen the adverts but believe that you should read the wording carefully. My understanding is that they will hire you if you have time on a suitable type e.g. B767 for the B777 say, BUT you have to go away and come back with a B777 command type rating at your own expense. As I say I haven't seen the advert but that is my understanding from talking to other crew, so may well be wrong.
Just wondering if there is any SYD base KE 744 and 777 drivers that could answer those questions:
1-How many days work per month?
You get 6 hard days + 3 soft days and you can take your 2 days leave per month. On the 744 & 777 I believe you get 3 commuting days per month. So in a 31 day month you will be away from home for 18 days. You will also get legal minimum days off between trips whilst at work.
2-How many days off at the base per month in a block?
See above, probably somewhere around about 5-6
3-Do you bid for days off or trips?
There is no bid system per se but that's not to say you can't ask the schedulers for a particular trip. They are also flexible with your days off so you can adjust your blocks of days off within reason.
4-Take home pay (salary+per diem)
Pay varies between fleets, the 744 are on USD$12K+, the 777 are on USD$10.7K+. The per diems will vary but are about USD$ 1000 per month. (These figures are from the gapaviation website)
[I]5-average flight time/month
The 747 & 777 are considered the long haul fleet and they work hard, and you frequently hear of guys going into overtime. You will also find yourself going east one trip and then west on your next trip, then east again....
6-best fleet to be on? (routes, days off, lifestyle, crews....)
Not on either so very subjective. B747 pays more is the bigger fleet has more expats on it, has a mix of cargo and pax. The B777 is probably the aircraft for the longer term future, is more modern, but pays less, and goes to (marginally) fewer destinations.
7-Best broker, broker to avoid dealing with, and why?
I think the general consensus is that CCL are the best brokers. But it is horses for courses so do your homework.
Fragglerock
Hope the above also answers your questions.
Re, hiring non-type rated DECs. I haven't seen the adverts but believe that you should read the wording carefully. My understanding is that they will hire you if you have time on a suitable type e.g. B767 for the B777 say, BUT you have to go away and come back with a B777 command type rating at your own expense. As I say I haven't seen the advert but that is my understanding from talking to other crew, so may well be wrong.
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737 and 320 drivers
is Asiana a right place for 320 and 737 drivers? talking about upgrade and advancement. what is the regulations re this matter?
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Capt Chambo,
Thanks, for the info. Do you currently work for KAL? If so, which agency did you use, and how long have you been there? Have you ran into an instructor there named Owen? If so, I've been trying to reach him. We used to fly together at a previous job. I worked there for a few years in the military, and really enjoyed it. I will check with Rishworth about the type not being required for the job, but you're probably right. They are also advertising 737 Capt positions without type. Do you know anything about that job? How about Asiana? I know that they are also hiring
Capts.
Thanks, again for the info. I would appreciate any more info that you can
provide.
F-Rock
Thanks, for the info. Do you currently work for KAL? If so, which agency did you use, and how long have you been there? Have you ran into an instructor there named Owen? If so, I've been trying to reach him. We used to fly together at a previous job. I worked there for a few years in the military, and really enjoyed it. I will check with Rishworth about the type not being required for the job, but you're probably right. They are also advertising 737 Capt positions without type. Do you know anything about that job? How about Asiana? I know that they are also hiring
Capts.
Thanks, again for the info. I would appreciate any more info that you can
provide.
F-Rock
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Just one question from me....
Does the Korean medical check have a limit on BMI (Body Mass Index)?
Yes, my days as a front row forward for my school rugby team are coming back to haunt me.
The reason I ask is that I am aware that the Japanese won't even look at you if you are over 29 BMI. So I'm keen to know the score in Korea.
Thanks in advance!
Does the Korean medical check have a limit on BMI (Body Mass Index)?
Yes, my days as a front row forward for my school rugby team are coming back to haunt me.
The reason I ask is that I am aware that the Japanese won't even look at you if you are over 29 BMI. So I'm keen to know the score in Korea.
Thanks in advance!
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friends of mine just left for ET and QR for these reasons. CAREER advancement or upgrade and very high cost of living/education (3rd in the world). as soon as you are accepted in QR/ET, ur seniority # is lined up for upgrade. something to look frwrd to.
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CCL= Cambridge communications ltd
Also hiring for KAL are Rishworth and I think IAC Global?
Direct entry FO and Capt positions. CCL and rishworth are fairly similar on contracts, but suggest you get both sent and see which suits you better. Sim straightforward, TO-problem with ground services so return for VOR to land. 2nd TO, eng fail, continue and dump fuel, eng out ils to go around then capt gets second eng failure, fo will get visual cct to land and at some point they will throw in an RTO. Automatic flight is recommended and embraced except for Eng out ils but they will tell you when to disconnect. Medical much as you have seen here, same as in taiwan and japan from what I can gather. Hot on eyes, ears and blood tests (read cholesterol for most of us). Medical in morning at CAA, anything comes up it will be retested at hospital with more advanced equipment, any fails will need doctor letter from home country after rechecking but then a hire is imminent. Interview lasts from between 5 and 20 mins from what I can gather. Really only interested in whether they can understand your english I think but of course be careful what you say. Maybe 1 or 2 technical questions but fairly easy stuff. Put up in hotel by airport for duration of interview, 3-4 days normally. Nice crewroom with friendly guys on 3rd floor. Hotel v good. Bus tickets provided to get you to head office but need taxi for simulator and to/from hospital after caa medical. Pay out of pocket, at interview 100,000 won paid to you which almost covers your expenses. Close enough anyway. Tickets provided from home base to Seoul and you will need to pay the airport tax yourself which is then refunded by the agency with your 1st pay so if you dont take the job or fail interview, you end up paying yourself. All in all fairly straightforward and any guys current on type should have no problem, usual polite behaviour in Asia. When in Rome!!
Enjoy!
Also hiring for KAL are Rishworth and I think IAC Global?
Direct entry FO and Capt positions. CCL and rishworth are fairly similar on contracts, but suggest you get both sent and see which suits you better. Sim straightforward, TO-problem with ground services so return for VOR to land. 2nd TO, eng fail, continue and dump fuel, eng out ils to go around then capt gets second eng failure, fo will get visual cct to land and at some point they will throw in an RTO. Automatic flight is recommended and embraced except for Eng out ils but they will tell you when to disconnect. Medical much as you have seen here, same as in taiwan and japan from what I can gather. Hot on eyes, ears and blood tests (read cholesterol for most of us). Medical in morning at CAA, anything comes up it will be retested at hospital with more advanced equipment, any fails will need doctor letter from home country after rechecking but then a hire is imminent. Interview lasts from between 5 and 20 mins from what I can gather. Really only interested in whether they can understand your english I think but of course be careful what you say. Maybe 1 or 2 technical questions but fairly easy stuff. Put up in hotel by airport for duration of interview, 3-4 days normally. Nice crewroom with friendly guys on 3rd floor. Hotel v good. Bus tickets provided to get you to head office but need taxi for simulator and to/from hospital after caa medical. Pay out of pocket, at interview 100,000 won paid to you which almost covers your expenses. Close enough anyway. Tickets provided from home base to Seoul and you will need to pay the airport tax yourself which is then refunded by the agency with your 1st pay so if you dont take the job or fail interview, you end up paying yourself. All in all fairly straightforward and any guys current on type should have no problem, usual polite behaviour in Asia. When in Rome!!
Enjoy!
