it's time for the chinese pilot to learn english

[jumpdrive]

they listen but dont pay attention

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vim2m...elated&search=

this is another good example

in my exp, china its the worst,
thai's are not that bad, they just have problems with their tongue and the R........>>>>Lunway zeLo 9!!!!, the V its like OUI in french, F...dont try, & they would say YES when they realy mean NO.............true!!!!!
indians on the other hand, of all these 3, are the best, although they LOVE to argue, get into a fight, scream, curse the ATC guy ((dont blame them in many cases)), always complaining like kid's in the playyard specially Jetairways guys

[mustangV8]

hoteluni.,
well maybe trying is the operative word...the french, esp. would rather not speak english. BUT, my point is that these language barriers are a safety issue.

sam34...I was not aware that flight training is conducted in french(my mistake), i guess it allows for a smooth progression during training...but, again, also like you said, it could lead to problems at a later stage. I just feel strongly about it since I have been a flight Instructor for many years now and have flown with many young students who have struggled with the language issue. This afcourse hampers their training efforts leading some to quit. It is very sad to see that, but, maybe it is necessary.

yes...we all have a job to do:
AVIATE
NAVIGATE
COMMUNICATE
PEACE
mV8

[EY777]

jumpdrive, your link again proves my contention with certain ATC's who expect the pilots (of foreign operated & registered a/c) to understand their lingo, accents & nuances.


Spare a thought to the Asiana guys.They just landed at one of the world's busiest airports after flying halfway around the globe & they have to contend with an overbearing ATC,all this while trying to safely maneuvre the a/c in a safe positon & manner Non standard R/T phrases was used, & the question asked was not expected (by the crew) at that stage (after landing & holding between 2 active runways!).I don't see how the Asiana crew can do all that (safely!) while trying to contact ramp on the allocated frequecy in that heavy workload situation.


Sometimes a good comprehension of the english language would mean doodly squat if both the speakers aren't using the Queen's english.That's why it's imperative on the need to slow down when comunicating across the 'barrier'.Being condescending & overbearing doesn't help either

[sam34]

MUSTANG, yes it is a problem that the course is in french (for french of course). And more and more french students go to UK to do the course but it is more expensive (living, food, caa exam etc).
So we have to learn english when we can : at home, at school, or england during a trip, etc
We have an exam in english like your RT in aviation but it is not sufficient.
OACI request in 2008 a general english.

I saw the link JUMPDRIVE, what I think, they shoud work on their pronunciation not really their accent. I mean the pronunciaiton is very important, as you said, the pronunce " Light" and not "Right" too. How can they do that !? lol

[sam34]

my friends, please watch this clip too between Air France and Argentina control, it is amazing like he said the pilot!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvrbM...related&search

[Alpha 6]

my friends, please watch this clip too between Air France and Argentina control, it is amazing like he said the pilot!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvrbM...related&search

now this is really scary...disaster waiting to happen. I wonder if we can device an easier way to communicate aside from speaking english on frequency?!? can't we install translating devices on ATC's mics and pilot's headsets? cause some can speak the language but can not understand them

A6

[oceanpilot]

watsch sis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTIbYrcN99E

[sam34]

I loved the "what are you sinking about ?"