Enrolling for PPL in Johor, Malaysia
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Enrolling for PPL in Johor, Malaysia
Hi,
I'm interested in getting the PPL in Malaysia since it is very costly to do so in Singapore.
I really hope someone here can provide me some opinions/feedbacks on this. I have single out these 3 clubs (Fras Flying Club, Elite Flying Club & Johor Flying Club) located in Johor.
Does anyone have any flying experience with any of them? How's the quality of the flying instructors there? And how long does an normal average person takes to complete the full course on a part-time basis and what will the expected total cost be? Also, does Singapore CAAS recognize the private pilot license issued by the Malaysia DCA through these clubs?
Anything else that I need to take note when enrolling for the course?
Thank.
I'm interested in getting the PPL in Malaysia since it is very costly to do so in Singapore.
I really hope someone here can provide me some opinions/feedbacks on this. I have single out these 3 clubs (Fras Flying Club, Elite Flying Club & Johor Flying Club) located in Johor.
Does anyone have any flying experience with any of them? How's the quality of the flying instructors there? And how long does an normal average person takes to complete the full course on a part-time basis and what will the expected total cost be? Also, does Singapore CAAS recognize the private pilot license issued by the Malaysia DCA through these clubs?
Anything else that I need to take note when enrolling for the course?
Thank.
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Hi, i am currently with FRAS. I would recomend FRAS or Elite. Johor FC to me doesn't look too impressive 
. cost wise it would come up to about 40k. Duration around 9 mths considering taking it part-time. From my experience you do not have to worry about the quality of the instructors as they are very friendly and experienced. All are ex-RSAF pilots with many hours on their hand. I don't think CAAS recognize Msia PPL thus i think some form of conversion is needed. Anyway all the best to you. Hope to see you in the skies..
. cost wise it would come up to about 40k. Duration around 9 mths considering taking it part-time. From my experience you do not have to worry about the quality of the instructors as they are very friendly and experienced. All are ex-RSAF pilots with many hours on their hand. I don't think CAAS recognize Msia PPL thus i think some form of conversion is needed. Anyway all the best to you. Hope to see you in the skies..
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Hiya,
First of all to clarify, a DCA malaysian PPL is recognised in most countries as long as the country is ICAO. Singapore is an ICAO so is malaysia. Therefore the 2 countries recognises each other licences. But in most countries, they will still require you to do an Airlaw paper and pass a flight test by the country issuing the licence. Hope this clears up the issue.
Secondly, which club to choose from in johor? The best answer is to go down to those clubs and do your homework. Do you want to have good club atmosphere? Do you want cheaper or more expensive hourly rates? Do u prefer ex air force instructors or civilian instructors? Do you want to pay monthly subscription fees or not? Do you want to start flying in a c-172 or a c-152 or a c-150? Which of course comes with different pricing.
Weigh all this first, then decide which club is best for you. Hope this helps
First of all to clarify, a DCA malaysian PPL is recognised in most countries as long as the country is ICAO. Singapore is an ICAO so is malaysia. Therefore the 2 countries recognises each other licences. But in most countries, they will still require you to do an Airlaw paper and pass a flight test by the country issuing the licence. Hope this clears up the issue.
Secondly, which club to choose from in johor? The best answer is to go down to those clubs and do your homework. Do you want to have good club atmosphere? Do you want cheaper or more expensive hourly rates? Do u prefer ex air force instructors or civilian instructors? Do you want to pay monthly subscription fees or not? Do you want to start flying in a c-172 or a c-152 or a c-150? Which of course comes with different pricing.
Weigh all this first, then decide which club is best for you. Hope this helps
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40K RM thats abit expensive, I remember I spent about RM14K few years back to get my PPL, but of course the fuel price go up and instructor fee go up. with RM40K I think Singapore is a better option but again, you will need to get some cross country hours before they issue you the un-restrict licence.
Conversion from DCA to CAAS can be done but basically you will need to join a singapore flying club and pass airlaw, dual flight about 4hrs and sit for a flgiht test, this will cost you some money as you have to join as member (the membership and mthly subscription are not cheap)
Conversion from DCA to CAAS can be done but basically you will need to join a singapore flying club and pass airlaw, dual flight about 4hrs and sit for a flgiht test, this will cost you some money as you have to join as member (the membership and mthly subscription are not cheap)
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Actually even if the cost is stated in RM, it is also IMO overpriced. I began at Fras when the fuel price was as low as 360RM for dual sortie and that was in mid 2005. Now the price for dual sortie is 525RM. Almost a 45% increase due to fuel prices? All SPL holders will be paying 525RM for either dual or solo sorties utill you get your PPL then you can go for the solo rates at 465RM.
Total amount for me spent at fras amount to somewhere around S$12k for my full PPL. Be prepared to pay for more as I have been thru some fuel prices changes therefore my expenses may not be applicable to you.
IMO again, it doesn't matter if you fly at Fras, Elite or JFC. As long as you feel comfortable there, you learn your fair amount of flying, you go for your first solo and eventually your PPL there. That would basically cover what you wish to do over there.
We can only provide advice here, it would still be best if you go down to the 3 clubs and make your own comparison there. See what is the plane you wish to fly like 9M has said before.
Thats for now, if you wish to clarify more. You can post your questions here.
Cheers man! 9M_XXX - Johor Ground - Good Morning!
Total amount for me spent at fras amount to somewhere around S$12k for my full PPL. Be prepared to pay for more as I have been thru some fuel prices changes therefore my expenses may not be applicable to you.
IMO again, it doesn't matter if you fly at Fras, Elite or JFC. As long as you feel comfortable there, you learn your fair amount of flying, you go for your first solo and eventually your PPL there. That would basically cover what you wish to do over there.
We can only provide advice here, it would still be best if you go down to the 3 clubs and make your own comparison there. See what is the plane you wish to fly like 9M has said before.
Thats for now, if you wish to clarify more. You can post your questions here.
Cheers man! 9M_XXX - Johor Ground - Good Morning!
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40K RM thats abit expensive, I remember I spent about RM14K few years back to get my PPL, but of course the fuel price go up and instructor fee go up. with RM40K I think Singapore is a better option but again, you will need to get some cross country hours before they issue you the un-restrict licence.
Conversion from DCA to CAAS can be done but basically you will need to join a singapore flying club and pass airlaw, dual flight about 4hrs and sit for a flgiht test, this will cost you some money as you have to join as member (the membership and mthly subscription are not cheap)
Conversion from DCA to CAAS can be done but basically you will need to join a singapore flying club and pass airlaw, dual flight about 4hrs and sit for a flgiht test, this will cost you some money as you have to join as member (the membership and mthly subscription are not cheap)
How can it come up to rm40k? the average price per hour is rm 500 and on the average a student will take about 50 hours to get the ppl and it will only amount to rm 25k which converts to sgd$ 10800
If one learns in seletar the cost is about SGD$280 per hour which will amount up to about sgd$14000 + membership $2500 Afterwhich the student will only get a restricted PPL and still need to go to johor to fly navigation before a full ppl can be issued.
Do the math and you will know where to go .
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Continuity?
Hi guys!
I have only time in the weekends hence quite afraid of continuity problems. Is flying once a week (maybe twice?) in Johor a week enough for an average joe to get the license in say 6 months?
Cheers!
cruiser
I have only time in the weekends hence quite afraid of continuity problems. Is flying once a week (maybe twice?) in Johor a week enough for an average joe to get the license in say 6 months?
Cheers!
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You do your own calculations
Dun count on flying too many hours in a single day. Then think about the ground school exams, be sure to clear everything before your check flight.
Think 6 mths have about 24 to 25 weeks.
Once a week of flying or maybe twice. It depends the other hand on your own learning scale towards flying. I seen some of my club mates clocking about 20+ hours and still not capable of handling his first solo, as feedback from the instructors. While some went for their first solo around -/+ 10hrs.
I guess it depends on individual person's amplitude towards this. Its all to its own. But anyways, you be given 9 mths to complete the whole PPL training + check flight. Average of 50hrs is required, some can do at 45hrs or less. I am a weekend flyer, I took about 50hrs to complete mine.
Good luck.
Dun count on flying too many hours in a single day. Then think about the ground school exams, be sure to clear everything before your check flight.
Think 6 mths have about 24 to 25 weeks.
Once a week of flying or maybe twice. It depends the other hand on your own learning scale towards flying. I seen some of my club mates clocking about 20+ hours and still not capable of handling his first solo, as feedback from the instructors. While some went for their first solo around -/+ 10hrs.
I guess it depends on individual person's amplitude towards this. Its all to its own. But anyways, you be given 9 mths to complete the whole PPL training + check flight. Average of 50hrs is required, some can do at 45hrs or less. I am a weekend flyer, I took about 50hrs to complete mine.
Good luck.
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6 months as a weekend flyer is a bit hard to achieve, although still possible...
There are other factors that may play a part, such as availability of the plane and instructor (especially on weekends where for most people are the only time they are free to fly), and weather especially in the equatorial region where low clouds and thunderstorms are very common.
It took me around 50+ hours and 9 months to get my PPL in Elite (Senai), and I flew around 3-4 times per week (of course there are times when I didn't fly for a week or two due to work commitment, holiday, etc). For comparison, when I had to "redo" my flying as a cadet in SIA, it took me 4 months to get the same amount of hours, and that is doing it full time and in the place where the weather is much better than in Senai.
JA
There are other factors that may play a part, such as availability of the plane and instructor (especially on weekends where for most people are the only time they are free to fly), and weather especially in the equatorial region where low clouds and thunderstorms are very common.
It took me around 50+ hours and 9 months to get my PPL in Elite (Senai), and I flew around 3-4 times per week (of course there are times when I didn't fly for a week or two due to work commitment, holiday, etc). For comparison, when I had to "redo" my flying as a cadet in SIA, it took me 4 months to get the same amount of hours, and that is doing it full time and in the place where the weather is much better than in Senai.
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Hi Smiles,
You doing your Jandakot Phase now?
Thats awesome! I still waiting for my chance...
Harnessing my powers to the 1st interview which after I will apply after I get my O's results. Hahahaha.
I redo my whole O levels in 2007. Hope something good comes out.
Good Luck.
You doing your Jandakot Phase now?
Thats awesome! I still waiting for my chance...
Harnessing my powers to the 1st interview which after I will apply after I get my O's results. Hahahaha.
I redo my whole O levels in 2007. Hope something good comes out.
Good Luck.
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Smiles,
Some questions since you completed Phase A & B and have a PPL beforehand.
Sorry to take up your time...
1) Does SIA or SFC acknowledges the flying hours that you had clocked in Senai? I was wondering if they would take my flying hours into consideration.
I was with Fras with C172 rating. You flew C150 or piper when you were in Elite previously?
2) Does having a PPL made any difference in your training? Or the instructors expected more from you?
3) In your opinion, how you feel when you were interviewed for the cadet position holding a PPL? Does it help in anyways?
I think question 3 a bit redundant, but can't help to find out from someone who has already gone thru the "test" successfully. Please advise...
Regards
Some questions since you completed Phase A & B and have a PPL beforehand.
Sorry to take up your time...
1) Does SIA or SFC acknowledges the flying hours that you had clocked in Senai? I was wondering if they would take my flying hours into consideration.
I was with Fras with C172 rating. You flew C150 or piper when you were in Elite previously?
2) Does having a PPL made any difference in your training? Or the instructors expected more from you?
3) In your opinion, how you feel when you were interviewed for the cadet position holding a PPL? Does it help in anyways?
I think question 3 a bit redundant, but can't help to find out from someone who has already gone thru the "test" successfully. Please advise...
Regards
