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KarrooWalvis, apparently the VISA idea didnt work out and people aren't living there with their families. At least thats what I understood! 
Now, I have a question. Maybe someone can help. I read different stuff about the training off days. Correct me if I'm wrong or if the info is a little bit outdated (as this thread is 12 years old). Normally we can expect to have the weekends free while in training (specially during ground course) and then maybe 1 four hour sim followed by 2 days off. is that correct? I'm trying to figure out how i will visit my girlfriend or how could I make her come without being too much of a hassle as theres a lot to study.
Now, I have a question. Maybe someone can help. I read different stuff about the training off days. Correct me if I'm wrong or if the info is a little bit outdated (as this thread is 12 years old
). Normally we can expect to have the weekends free while in training (specially during ground course) and then maybe 1 four hour sim followed by 2 days off. is that correct? I'm trying to figure out how i will visit my girlfriend or how could I make her come without being too much of a hassle as theres a lot to study.
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hi everyone.
I just wanted to say thanks to all the previous posters, and add my 2 cents!
Ive just been given the nod for the interview and medical and am now waiting for the contract.
all previous write ups are on point.
For me I started the application in April and had the interview in October, could have done it faster but due to busy work schedule and holidays I chose to take my time.
I used Xplane 11 with a b767 setup in VR as a glorified paper dragon for the procedural stuff.
I have very clear reasons for the commute, namely no kids and both myself and partner already being expats and intending to go home. -a lot of weight on this question from both HR and the psychiatrist.
i did 12 hrs sim with crew (6 actual stick time) and I needed every bit of it. It was done at Ana training center in Tokyo.
The end product wasn’t perfect but if I was 10ft high on downwind, or 5kts fast on approach I was correcting and announcing it.
the only real **** up was my v1 cut as it was wobbly after takeoff but I
put it behind me and moved on. Was late with checklists but caught everything in time.
there was no time in Tokyo to study really, I just tried to relax and go for a run etc.
Im 34yo, 5300hrs with 1200h a320 FO, about 850 FO atr, 650 FO b1900d. 500multi pic instructing and rest is s/e instructing.
feel free to ask anything, still trying to figure out the tax side though, any one banking with HSBC or other international bank?
cheers and good luck everyone!
I just wanted to say thanks to all the previous posters, and add my 2 cents!
Ive just been given the nod for the interview and medical and am now waiting for the contract.
all previous write ups are on point.
For me I started the application in April and had the interview in October, could have done it faster but due to busy work schedule and holidays I chose to take my time.
I used Xplane 11 with a b767 setup in VR as a glorified paper dragon for the procedural stuff.
I have very clear reasons for the commute, namely no kids and both myself and partner already being expats and intending to go home. -a lot of weight on this question from both HR and the psychiatrist.
i did 12 hrs sim with crew (6 actual stick time) and I needed every bit of it. It was done at Ana training center in Tokyo.
The end product wasn’t perfect but if I was 10ft high on downwind, or 5kts fast on approach I was correcting and announcing it.
the only real **** up was my v1 cut as it was wobbly after takeoff but I
put it behind me and moved on. Was late with checklists but caught everything in time.
there was no time in Tokyo to study really, I just tried to relax and go for a run etc.
Im 34yo, 5300hrs with 1200h a320 FO, about 850 FO atr, 650 FO b1900d. 500multi pic instructing and rest is s/e instructing.
feel free to ask anything, still trying to figure out the tax side though, any one banking with HSBC or other international bank?
cheers and good luck everyone!
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Are there any guys on the ANA contract who have their families living with them in Japan?
This is a commuting contract only and the company will not sponsor you nor your family for residency status.
There are a handful of folks that live in Japan because they are married to japanese ladies, but the company doesn't like that one bit, the whole thing is predicated on some language that was intended for workers from the shipyards (Hence Shorepass) and ANA has taken advantage of it and is using it for airline workers creating a situation where they have temporary workers working in Japan for more than 15 years now. So the intention to live in Japan is a very touchy subject.
If not living in Japan, maybe they visit a lot? Is it easy to get a multi entry visa or something?
If you have a citizenship that is part of the Visa waiver program, you get 90 days visa upon arrival.
Japan is very strict with their immigration policies and if you over stay your visa period, you could be subject to deportation and prohibition from entering Japan in the future, so think of the 90 day visa as an 80 day visa just in case!
This is a commuting contract only and the company will not sponsor you nor your family for residency status.
There are a handful of folks that live in Japan because they are married to japanese ladies, but the company doesn't like that one bit, the whole thing is predicated on some language that was intended for workers from the shipyards (Hence Shorepass) and ANA has taken advantage of it and is using it for airline workers creating a situation where they have temporary workers working in Japan for more than 15 years now. So the intention to live in Japan is a very touchy subject.
If not living in Japan, maybe they visit a lot? Is it easy to get a multi entry visa or something?
If you have a citizenship that is part of the Visa waiver program, you get 90 days visa upon arrival.
Japan is very strict with their immigration policies and if you over stay your visa period, you could be subject to deportation and prohibition from entering Japan in the future, so think of the 90 day visa as an 80 day visa just in case!
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hi everyone.
I just wanted to say thanks to all the previous posters, and add my 2 cents!
Ive just been given the nod for the interview and medical and am now waiting for the contract.
all previous write ups are on point.
For me I started the application in April and had the interview in October, could have done it faster but due to busy work schedule and holidays I chose to take my time.
I used Xplane 11 with a b767 setup in VR as a glorified paper dragon for the procedural stuff.
I have very clear reasons for the commute, namely no kids and both myself and partner already being expats and intending to go home. -a lot of weight on this question from both HR and the psychiatrist.
i did 12 hrs sim with crew (6 actual stick time) and I needed every bit of it. It was done at Ana training center in Tokyo.
The end product wasn’t perfect but if I was 10ft high on downwind, or 5kts fast on approach I was correcting and announcing it.
the only real **** up was my v1 cut as it was wobbly after takeoff but I
put it behind me and moved on. Was late with checklists but caught everything in time.
there was no time in Tokyo to study really, I just tried to relax and go for a run etc.
Im 34yo, 5300hrs with 1200h a320 FO, about 850 FO atr, 650 FO b1900d. 500multi pic instructing and rest is s/e instructing.
feel free to ask anything, still trying to figure out the tax side though, any one banking with HSBC or other international bank?
cheers and good luck everyone!
I just wanted to say thanks to all the previous posters, and add my 2 cents!
Ive just been given the nod for the interview and medical and am now waiting for the contract.
all previous write ups are on point.
For me I started the application in April and had the interview in October, could have done it faster but due to busy work schedule and holidays I chose to take my time.
I used Xplane 11 with a b767 setup in VR as a glorified paper dragon for the procedural stuff.
I have very clear reasons for the commute, namely no kids and both myself and partner already being expats and intending to go home. -a lot of weight on this question from both HR and the psychiatrist.
i did 12 hrs sim with crew (6 actual stick time) and I needed every bit of it. It was done at Ana training center in Tokyo.
The end product wasn’t perfect but if I was 10ft high on downwind, or 5kts fast on approach I was correcting and announcing it.
the only real **** up was my v1 cut as it was wobbly after takeoff but I
put it behind me and moved on. Was late with checklists but caught everything in time.
there was no time in Tokyo to study really, I just tried to relax and go for a run etc.
Im 34yo, 5300hrs with 1200h a320 FO, about 850 FO atr, 650 FO b1900d. 500multi pic instructing and rest is s/e instructing.
feel free to ask anything, still trying to figure out the tax side though, any one banking with HSBC or other international bank?
cheers and good luck everyone!
The sim It's something that is concerning me a little bit as it is a lot of money to put in advance although they reinburse part of it. However, I'd have to travel to the other side of the globe first to go to Sidney and then up to Tokyo for the assessment. And thats sooooome money
Were you offered to go to Sidney first and then told them to go to Tokyo? Or you weren't offered Sidney at all? About the sim prep, were the instructors japanese or expats? How did you feel in the sim? Were they helpful?I was told however that the pass rate is pretty good. What feedback would you give about it?
Thanks in advance!
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I was not given the option of Sydney, I think that’s a Longreach thing possibly? I went directly with Crew and they just did it all in Tokyo on the nights leading up to the sim.
The sim instructors were Canadian/American about to or recently retired after long careers in other Japanese airlines. (Red team). I was very happy, They were very on point with what the assessments are like and train you for the “worst case scenario” -short vectors, little auotopilot use etc. 30% is learning the flight characteristics of the B767 and 70% is playing the “computer game” that is the profile. Also on the prep there is no motion on the sim which is harder, especially for the single engine manoeuvres, but it saves time too!
6hrs of sim is not much, I believe longreach offers extra time at your own cost.
I believe the pass rate is pretty good, don’t have the numbers. Pretty sure there is no chance of passing if you don’t do sim prep, at least for an average driver like myself.
The sim instructors were Canadian/American about to or recently retired after long careers in other Japanese airlines. (Red team). I was very happy, They were very on point with what the assessments are like and train you for the “worst case scenario” -short vectors, little auotopilot use etc. 30% is learning the flight characteristics of the B767 and 70% is playing the “computer game” that is the profile. Also on the prep there is no motion on the sim which is harder, especially for the single engine manoeuvres, but it saves time too!
6hrs of sim is not much, I believe longreach offers extra time at your own cost.
I believe the pass rate is pretty good, don’t have the numbers. Pretty sure there is no chance of passing if you don’t do sim prep, at least for an average driver like myself.
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I am a little confused about the sim prep. Did you buy study guides or a sim prep xourse on the 67 before you did the sim eval? Or was the 12 hrs (6 ground + 6 sim) provided by CREW with the interview/eval.
I see you had done your due diligence with the paper trainer Were the study guide and manuals provided ahead of time or only just prior to the eval? Or purchased through the sim prep.
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Just a quick question which I can't find an answer to. It seems to me you guys at ANA get away with paying Japan income tax, but the guys at Jetstar and Peach have to pay about 25 to 30 percent, plus there pension and medical. I do realise this is not a JS or Peach thread, but just trying to find out what is the difference !!! Thanks
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Just a quick question which I can't find an answer to. It seems to me you guys at ANA get away with paying Japan income tax, but the guys at Jetstar and Peach have to pay about 25 to 30 percent, plus there pension and medical. I do realise this is not a JS or Peach thread, but just trying to find out what is the difference !!! Thanks
Thanks - I know that. Why would people go apeshi* ???? Just trying to find out why ANA can do it and Peach or Jetstar cant ? The question was not why u are not paying tax !!!!!
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Peach / Jetstar fly domestic flights and the government wont allow the expat pilots to enter on a shore pass ( like Air Japan pilots ). This requires Peach / Jetstar crew to have an employment visa and consequently pay all normal taxes and social insurances.
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AJX pilots are NOT employed in Japan. They are employed by contract companies, based in places like,USA, Isle of Man and, Vanuatu. The contract companies then second the pilots to AJX.
In the eyes of the Japanese Authorities, the pilots are deemed to be foreign based crew operating into and out of Japan, as a result, the crew enter/exit on a shorepass or passport.
The AJX pilots enjoy NO protection under Japanese employment law, have no access to Japanese social benefits. They are also not liable for Tax in Japan. There are a few who have obtained residence in Japan and they ARE liable for Japanese tax.
Be very careful saying the pilots pay no tax. Tax liability is individual and is influenced by country of domicile etc. Most of the pilots actually DO pay income tax, some are exempt by the laws of their country of domicile.
As far as taxation goes, VERY IMPORTANT, get advice from a tax professional in your country of residence as far as AJX tax goes, this forum is not the place to get it.
AJX pilots are employed differently to other airlines in Japan, eg Peachie, Banilla, Jetstar, etc. AJX pilots are not allowed to conduct domestic operations, all flights have to be international flights.
Lastly, please stop referring to AJX as ANA, it is a subsidiary of ANA but the pilots do not enjoy the advantages of ANA pilots, in fact, they are often reminded they are NOT ANA, except when it suits the company, of course!
AJX pilots are NOT employed in Japan. They are employed by contract companies, based in places like,USA, Isle of Man and, Vanuatu. The contract companies then second the pilots to AJX.
In the eyes of the Japanese Authorities, the pilots are deemed to be foreign based crew operating into and out of Japan, as a result, the crew enter/exit on a shorepass or passport.
The AJX pilots enjoy NO protection under Japanese employment law, have no access to Japanese social benefits. They are also not liable for Tax in Japan. There are a few who have obtained residence in Japan and they ARE liable for Japanese tax.
Be very careful saying the pilots pay no tax. Tax liability is individual and is influenced by country of domicile etc. Most of the pilots actually DO pay income tax, some are exempt by the laws of their country of domicile.
As far as taxation goes, VERY IMPORTANT, get advice from a tax professional in your country of residence as far as AJX tax goes, this forum is not the place to get it.
AJX pilots are employed differently to other airlines in Japan, eg Peachie, Banilla, Jetstar, etc. AJX pilots are not allowed to conduct domestic operations, all flights have to be international flights.
Lastly, please stop referring to AJX as ANA, it is a subsidiary of ANA but the pilots do not enjoy the advantages of ANA pilots, in fact, they are often reminded they are NOT ANA, except when it suits the company, of course!
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Thanks for your information, I just got the same thing these days and I was told to Tokyo since I don’t need visa to entering Japan.
I’d like to know, what do you mean 12 hrs with crew (6 actual stick), what is the other half of 6, some fixed training devices?
How many days did you spend in Japan? Or I should say, did the sim prep just right before your interview session, so total one travel for you?
Thank you.
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Hello.. been reading the whole post from the beginning.... hats off to all who has posted all those well packed information: The Dom, jrmyl, gtseraf, Fratemate, Absolutely, heavydane, etc… (sorry if I missed out some other guys). Also to the guys who shared they experiences on the screening process.
I have a pre-screening coming up sometime in December, and if I pass, the actual screening may be somewhere in Jan 2020. Some questions for the ppl with experience:
1. How many days do you need to allocate for the screening + medical? Including the day to travel to Japan.
2. If you fail the screening, they will send you home the very next day instead?
3. If you fail somewhere down the line during training, will you get a compensation of some sort?
4. With the 787 around, do the 767 pilots fly freight routes only?
Roccat
I have a pre-screening coming up sometime in December, and if I pass, the actual screening may be somewhere in Jan 2020. Some questions for the ppl with experience:
1. How many days do you need to allocate for the screening + medical? Including the day to travel to Japan.
2. If you fail the screening, they will send you home the very next day instead?
3. If you fail somewhere down the line during training, will you get a compensation of some sort?
4. With the 787 around, do the 767 pilots fly freight routes only?
Roccat
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Hello.. been reading the whole post from the beginning.... hats off to all who has posted all those well packed information: The Dom, jrmyl, gtseraf, Fratemate, Absolutely, heavydane, etc… (sorry if I missed out some other guys). Also to the guys who shared they experiences on the screening process.
I have a pre-screening coming up sometime in December, and if I pass, the actual screening may be somewhere in Jan 2020. Some questions for the ppl with experience:
1. How many days do you need to allocate for the screening + medical? Including the day to travel to Japan.
2. If you fail the screening, they will send you home the very next day instead?
3. If you fail somewhere down the line during training, will you get a compensation of some sort?
4. With the 787 around, do the 767 pilots fly freight routes only?
Roccat
I have a pre-screening coming up sometime in December, and if I pass, the actual screening may be somewhere in Jan 2020. Some questions for the ppl with experience:
1. How many days do you need to allocate for the screening + medical? Including the day to travel to Japan.
2. If you fail the screening, they will send you home the very next day instead?
3. If you fail somewhere down the line during training, will you get a compensation of some sort?
4. With the 787 around, do the 767 pilots fly freight routes only?
Roccat