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Old 2nd Feb 2014, 11:06
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For pilots to have BMI of 28 in the US and western countries, they have to be quite fit and in shape
Maybe, just maybe, that's what the Japanese are looking for when they carry out the medicals; quite fit and in shape as opposed to unfit fatties. Seeing the size of some of the US crews (and other countries of course) I actually side with the Japanese and don't think it is unreasonable for them to expect pilots to be the correct weight and not the size of a hippo.

As TD says, it doesn't matter what your opinion of BMI is, you either conform to their standards and how they want to play the game or you don't join.

Edited to add: As far as I know KAL take the same approach and the numbers are the same. The Chinese are less forgiving.
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Old 2nd Feb 2014, 21:19
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I thought that the BMI was to be 30 and under to qualify, I guess its otherwise. For pilots to have BMI of 28 in the US and western countries, they have to be quite fit and in shape.

BMI if flawed as it simply computes height and weight ratio. A more accurate index would be body fat ratio. People with muscles weigh more that people with fat. I guess Japanese do not know that muscle weighs more than fat. This is their game and they make the rules. Imagine US companies telling pilots to be under 28 BMI!

Staying under 28 BMI would require one to be on sushi and Japanese diet!
Man GC, if you have this much problems accepting the bMI standards, how will you deal with all the other little things that they do during training? One of the first things you learn here is to don't ask why. If you do you will drive yourself crazy and you will not be successful in the training. Sometimes you just got to accept that these are different people with different standards and go with it.
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Old 4th Feb 2014, 19:27
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You can bring Sanjay Gupta to make that argument for you and it will make absolutely no difference....!
I don't think Japanese will even listen to the Surgeon General

As TD says, it doesn't matter what your opinion of BMI is, you either conform to their standards and how they want to play the game or you don't join.
Only wishing that they would be more practical than the age old BMI, but I guess it's one way of keeping a lot of people out from this competitive job.

Man GC, if you have this much problems accepting the bMI standards, how will you deal with all the other little things that they do during training? One of the first things you learn here is to don't ask why.
I do not have any problem accepting their BMI standards but was just wishing the process was more scientific, accurate like body fat ratio. Even the US military accepts body fat ratio even if the BMI is high.Pilots with a lot of muscles and who do weight lifting are adversely affected by their BMI rules. Those pilots could be perfectly fine on the inside but just because of having muscles they get disqualified . I was just WISHING that they would take a more scientific, reliable, practical approach. I guess just like the "white gloves" policy, this BMI technique will stay.

If I ever get fortunate enough to join, I think I will go fine with the "culture" there as I was born and raised in Asia and lived there for 20 years. I do understand the culture and expectations.

Having said that, time for more exercise and healthier options

Again, thanks for sharing your experiences and knowledge. We, newbies, appreciate a lot.

Good luck and blue skies ahead

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Old 5th Feb 2014, 15:58
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Diet and exercise

Guys

Working as expats on a contract multiple time zones away from home, how do you guys stay fit and eat right?

Do you guys workout during layovers, during off days in Japan or just workout during the 12-14 days when back from Japan? I know the short answer would be "whatever it works for an individual", but would love to hear different stories and individual perspectives.

Also, do you guys follow a strict diet or just go with the flow? Please share about your exercise and diet plan if you don't mind.

Thanks
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Old 7th Feb 2014, 02:19
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There are a fair number of Europeans in AJX, including those from the UK, Denmark and Spain. ANA has a direct flight to LHR, so it's an easy commute. This service will be moving to HND in March, so there's a very good chance you'd be able to use Virgin instead, which has better timings for their flights and means you don't have to swelter in the sub-tropical temperatures found on ANA's flights.
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Old 7th Feb 2014, 07:01
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26-28 degrees!
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Old 8th Feb 2014, 02:07
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FlatBroke,

Secure job in your home city, just stay there.

If you want to experience the Far East then travel during your leave. Want to experience a bigger aircraft perhaps? Don't bother, they're all the same size once the flight deck door is closed and it's only a matter of flaring a bit earlier. Want to get a command earlier than you might at home? Again why bother if you're at home and the pay is okay....it'll come eventually. Current employer annoying you? They're all the same and it's just jumping from the frying pan into the fire.

Single + employed flying + living where you WANT to live, rather than where you NEED to, sounds to me like a winning combination.......the grass is not necessarily greener

PS: It's snowing in NRT at the moment and the weather is crap, so it's not just England
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Old 14th Feb 2014, 03:48
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Just wandering if you still do fly with the 767 to Singapore?
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Old 14th Feb 2014, 08:44
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ju757,

At the moment ANA mainline are flying the SIN flights and the AJX resources allocated elsewhere i.e OKA midnight pairings. Having said all that, there are allegedly going to be 6 cargo flights per week to SIN starting fairly soon, so we may well end up picking up that work.......apart from the Saturday trip because that will give a day off in SIN and would obviously need to be done by the Japanese .
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Old 14th Feb 2014, 10:40
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Thank you for the quick answer.

Any changes to the other destinations or new project/destination coming up soon
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Old 17th Feb 2014, 17:19
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@ju757

No one knows what's going to happen around here, not even our management
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Old 20th Feb 2014, 23:13
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Hanyou

As long as you can understand the words "you must study harder" and "you must read more" with the occasional "I don't understand why you are doing that" then you'll have a pretty good grasp of instruction Japanese style.

Slightly different thought-ology compared with the west with more than a few "you can't be serious" moments that will arise to challenge your ability to suspend credability.

Some of the stuff you simply would not believe until you see it for yourself, all part of life's rich tapestry I suppose.
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Old 21st Feb 2014, 00:54
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I think the pass rate is better for FOs', well it was...

There was a rough time when Alteon were doing the instruction solely, but I think the ANA guys are all back running it now.

Simple; if you can fly, you'll pass. Can someone quote the current failure rate? It used to be less than 10%. I am sure it is low and comparable to other airlines.

I suggest re-jigging the approach; instead of what if I fail? What about, when I pass?

Gambate to all.
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Old 21st Feb 2014, 20:43
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I just got my confirmation for screening on the 8th of April .if someone else has the same date a PM would be appreciated.
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Old 2nd Mar 2014, 13:35
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Air Nippon

Is that you Dom. El quemaito? Coming to HND on 04/March for screening on the 5th. Staying at the Toyoko inn HND, any chance we can sit and discuss the whole process over a flow of cerveza Asahi or Sapporo?
It appears the B767-300 is a Cadillac to fly, not as sturdy and sophisticated as the B737NG, but the comfort of being able to slide your briefcase on the side of your seat. I am still holding the B737Ng oral guidebook you briefed me on prior to my FAA oral at Aeroservice. It would be a pleasure working with you there.
Matta Ne! Dominicano puro....
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Old 2nd Mar 2014, 13:48
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Yo no soy el "quemaito" but I know him quite well...! Is he coming here for an interview? I wouldn't mind at all having a couple of "frias" with an old friend...!

Queloque! Yo soy de los pilotos de Herrera y tengo 7 años trabajando aquí.......! Cualquier cosa en que te pueda ayudar primo me dejas saber.
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Old 3rd Mar 2014, 23:53
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Pues que buena sorpresa saber que existen dos Dominicanos tan hospitalarios.
Mi email es [email protected], déjame saber el tuyo, mi entrevista es mañana, si pudieses referirme a una buena guía de preguntas orales durante la entrevista con el panel de 5 Japoneses me ayudaría muchísimo.
Cordialmente,
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Old 6th Mar 2014, 03:48
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Question

Segnor dignified.
Cómo fue su experiencia?
Por favor, nos ilumine.
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Old 10th Mar 2014, 15:40
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How many days are required for interview??
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Old 10th Mar 2014, 23:54
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How many days are required for interview??
Approximately 0.0313.
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