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Old 5th Dec 2018, 20:24
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Originally Posted by jrmyl View Post
Everything is the same as previously reported in this thread. Nothing EVER changes here. Just read this and you will have all your answers.
Thanks jrmyl !

Pardon me if this has been already answered, maybe I missed a post.
So is anyone here who got upgraded recently? How long before you’re offered a chance at assessment?
How long before the airline transitions to all 787s?

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Old 5th Dec 2018, 22:57
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787 conversions are on hold at the moment due to the engine problems. They are examining the possibility of re-starting in April/May but that is only the latest best guess. I think the previous plan was to have got rid of passenger 767s in 2020 but that will now be later (2021?) The freighters will remain for some time after that but I haven't seen a date for them disappearing and it may well depend on whether ANA get the 787 freighter or switch to the 777 freighter. Long and short of it; assume you're going to fly the 767 for quite some time yet.

Your other questions have been answered many times before, so have a good read of the thread because it's all there and you would need to miss more than one post to have your questions unanswered.
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Old 6th Dec 2018, 04:41
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Will the 787s replace the 767s one for one or is the fleet size expected to shrink a bit when they start retiring them?
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Old 6th Dec 2018, 04:56
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Originally Posted by drop24 View Post
Will the 787s replace the 767s one for one or is the fleet size expected to shrink a bit when they start retiring them?
We don't have our own fleet so that type of replacement thinking really doesn't apply here. They take orders for 787's and put the Air Japan name on them. We have certain flights that we operate the 787 on and routes we operate the 767 on. As the 787 takes over routes that the 767 used to fly those planes that used to do that route transition to doing domestic routes. So there really is no replacement for airframes here. Just routes.
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Old 6th Dec 2018, 06:56
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As Jrmyl said. We just fly the routes ANA orders us to. We do not have our own aircraft. Every 767-300ER and every international configuration 787 that ANA operates has an Air Japan sticker slapped on both sides of them.
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Old 6th Dec 2018, 23:40
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Originally Posted by jrmyl View Post
Everything is the same as previously reported in this thread. Nothing EVER changes here. Just read this and you will have all your answers.

Mate, the locker room changes on regular basis
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Old 7th Dec 2018, 13:21
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Originally Posted by gtseraf View Post
Mate, the locker room changes on regular basis
Sorry, I take it back then. It's all wonderful with all the change we are getting here.
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Old 7th Dec 2018, 16:07
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So the operation is a let in the contract the ANA pilots have with the company to allow non-union pilots to operate some of the flights? How often is the contract up for renegotiation and when is it next?
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Old 8th Dec 2018, 06:41
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Originally Posted by drop24 View Post
So the operation is a let in the contract the ANA pilots have with the company to allow non-union pilots to operate some of the flights? How often is the contract up for renegotiation and when is it next?
I'm not sure if anyone here knows anything about the ANA Pilots contract. Been here coming up on 9 years and I haven't heard one detail about what is in or isn't in their contract.
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Old 9th Dec 2018, 00:09
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Drop, I don't think things work that way in this part of the world, I've been here 17 years and have almost zero knowledge of agreements etc.
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Old 10th Dec 2018, 00:15
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Congrats to both of you for your length of service. Is there a defined mandatory retirement age at Air Japan these days? Or an age when they generally just don't renew your contract?
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Old 10th Dec 2018, 00:26
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Same as most countries. 65
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Old 11th Dec 2018, 06:32
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Hi all, sorry if this has been answered already but I can't find it.

I see that maximum days of sick pay are 12 days per year.
My question is, if you brake a leg and you need to be off for 3 months for example, do you not get payed? Do you guys all buy any other insurance yourself that protects you in these cases? Or maybe the temporary loss of licence would cover that?

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Old 11th Dec 2018, 08:13
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Well, first off, it's not 12 days a year but you can only accrue a TOTAL of 12 days. Sick days are accrued at the rate of 1 every 2 months so, yes, it will take 2 years of no sick days being used to get to a total of 12. It's pathetic and one of the worst parts of the contract. Once you reach 12 you cannot add any more, so it's almost encouraging you to go sick for a day or else you're just handing the Company back two months of no sickness. We've tried in the past to get the limit increased, so that if you are sick for longer you can use those days but this fell on deaf ears. Likewise, we tried to get any days over 12 to be paid off, say at the end of the contract but, again, the short-sighted in both Management and the contract companies didn't want to listen. So there is absolutely no incentive whatsoever to attempt to hold more than 12 days sick and this just demonstrates the stupidity of the sickness system.

With that rant over, both PARC and CREW have an insurance policy that kicks in after 2 weeks and will pay you (80% I THINK) until you're okay again. So, with you broken leg (caused by braking too hard I assume....given your spelling) you'll be okay for those 3 months and won't have to take out any additional insurance.

PARC traditionally had the good loss of licence insurance( LOL) and CREW had the great medical insurance. It was the LOL that paid out for those additional days off and CREW pilots did have to pay extra if they wanted LOL insurance. However, all of that has recently changed. CREW now get a better LOL than PARC and don't have to pay a single $ for it. CREW also have the same great medical insurance that covers the pilot AND their family and no excess payment. PARC's covers the pilot only (without additional payments) and you have an excess payment of GBP200/year. PARC have a lot of catching up to do but are just dragging their heals.
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Old 11th Dec 2018, 09:13
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Originally Posted by Fratemate View Post
PARC have a lot of catching up to do but are just dragging their heals.
Are they dragging their heels while you heal from your bad break when you stepped on the brake?
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Old 11th Dec 2018, 09:32
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Haha, well played. That will teach me to be nasty about others' spelling
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Old 11th Dec 2018, 10:08
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Ahahha thanks jrmyl

ok good info, thanks.
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Old 11th Dec 2018, 21:37
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As for the medical insurance provided by Parc. It pays 80% of your BASIC salary up to a fortnightly maximum. A lot of the package is made up of "experience pay" and bonus, these are not included in the calculation. I don't have the numbers immediately available but this fortnightly maximum actually brings the percentage down quite a bit, eg, a newer Captain will only be at about 60% while the older guys are nearer 50% of total package . Read the contract very carefully and do your sums very carefully.

This medical cover pay is limited to a 24 month period

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Old 14th Dec 2018, 07:40
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AJX pilots,

Hi, after reading threads for days, I really appreciate for the information here which answers most I need to know.

There are still some questions I would like to understand and I'm sorry if I miss any of them above here and please correct me if I am wrong about these ⬇︎
  • I'm realizing that the salary actually come from agent company in USD ( I assume) not AJX, so the salary will be wired through SWIFT to my home bank?
  • Entering and exiting Japan via Shore Pass or tourist visa or no visa required(my case), I'd like to know how people rent a room without a working visa.
  • No working visa or RP also means we are not allow to let family stay in Japan or children study in Japan right? Though they just 4 hours flight from NRT, it's still better if we stay together.
  • No working visa or RP also means we can't create a bank account in Japan and no cell plan like other Japanese have, basically we are just passerby for Japan immigration.
  • Do you or do you know anyone get a real estate? Is it possible?
Now here's a complex one, any one knows an act just passed few days ago about "Immigrant management and refugee recognizing" 通称・略称出入国管理法、入国管理法、入管難民法、入管法

I don't know the exact english name for this act, maybe there's no one, but this one will allow Japan gov to extend their flexibility to let foreign manpower go into Japan. Aviation is one of the industry which being allowed. From the news I read, it doesn't mention which part of aviation, pilots, attendants, engineers, dispatchers, ticketing or something else.

My question is, will this change the way we work? If it changes, does it mean we have a chance to long stay and get family here? But I can see the downside is the tax letter will come with this.

I know that try not let interviewer feel family outweighs the company. I'm working in a country also about 4 hours flight from my hometown, so it really doesn't matter to my family if I stay here or go to Japan. I'm asking just because it will be a plus about this position if we have a chance to live together in Japan.

Thanks again for information.

RL

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Old 17th Dec 2018, 14:04
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Originally Posted by R.L View Post
AJX pilots,

Hi, after reading threads for days, I really appreciate for the information here which answers most I need to know.

There are still some questions I would like to understand and I'm sorry if I miss any of them above here and please correct me if I am wrong about these ⬇︎
  • I'm realizing that the salary actually come from agent company in USD ( I assume) not AJX, so the salary will be wired through SWIFT to my home bank? I am from the US so mine is indeed deposited in my bank account in USD.
  • Entering and exiting Japan via Shore Pass or tourist visa or no visa required(my case), I'd like to know how people rent a room without a working visa. We don't know how we do it, we just do. There is a local real estate gentleman who facilitates it for us.
  • No working visa or RP also means we are not allow to let family stay in Japan or children study in Japan right? Though they just 4 hours flight from NRT, it's still better if we stay together. Your family could live here if they wanted, they would just have to leave every 90 days or however long the tourist visa is. Of course schooling might be a different story. I don't have my family here so can't really give a definitive answer.
  • No working visa or RP also means we can't create a bank account in Japan and no cell plan like other Japanese have, basically we are just passerby for Japan immigration. Correct, however when you are here in initial training you are on a RP so some guys have set up bank accounts at that time.
  • Do you or do you know anyone get a real estate? Is it possible? Yes, we do have at least 1 person who has purchased a house, don't know how he did it though. Sorry.
Now here's a complex one, any one knows an act just passed few days ago about "Immigrant management and refugee recognizing" 通称・略称出入国管理法、入国管理法、入管難民法、入管法

I don't know the exact english name for this act, maybe there's no one, but this one will allow Japan gov to extend their flexibility to let foreign manpower go into Japan. Aviation is one of the industry which being allowed. From the news I read, it doesn't mention which part of aviation, pilots, attendants, engineers, dispatchers, ticketing or something else.

My question is, will this change the way we work? If it changes, does it mean we have a chance to long stay and get family here? But I can see the downside is the tax letter will come with this.I have read some articles that list jobs and pilots are not one of them. They are all basically low skilled, low wage positions.

I know that try not let interviewer feel family outweighs the company. I'm working in a country also about 4 hours flight from my hometown, so it really doesn't matter to my family if I stay here or go to Japan. I'm asking just because it will be a plus about this position if we have a chance to live together in Japan. Definitely don't let the family outweigh the job during the interview. Then when offered the job you need to decide to accept based on whether your family is ok with everything.

Thanks again for information.

RL

There might be better answers to some of these questions, ie. the bank account info, deposit info. Either way, good luck.
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